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GrudgeBringer September 1st, 2008 10:35 PM

Cursed!!
 
I keep getting my Prophet cursed every game.

I have only 1 magic unit and have tried to get him to remove it but he has no order for it.

Is there a certain Mage/Priest that removes curses kind of like the Arco Priestess that can remove afflictions?

I looked in the manual for a spell to remove curses but had no luck...If I am somehow missing that part could someone point me in the right direction...

I am of the opinion that the curse does not ever go away on its own so its important {especially in MP).

Thanks!!!!:confused:

Dragar September 1st, 2008 11:11 PM

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I'm pretty sure that curses are uncurable. They really aren't that big a deal though, I wouldn't worry about it.

archaeolept September 2nd, 2008 12:07 AM

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if you're being cursed, most likely you are attacking lizard provinces. avoid them, and you can somewhat prevent them. Curses can never be removed.

K September 2nd, 2008 01:15 AM

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As mentioned, Cursed is a condition that cannot be removed.

That being said, it only increases the change to get afflictions. Regeneration lessens the chance of afflictions, and not being damaged by wearing armor, being Lucky, or being Ethereal or having some other resistance helps.

Also, just healing afflictions you get is a solution. The Gift of Health, the Chalice, and Healer units do this.

Agema September 2nd, 2008 05:31 AM

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You should also know that getting cursed is virtually a guarantee for any long-lived character who goes into battle and quite likely even for those that don't.

Poopsi September 2nd, 2008 05:41 AM

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Curses cannot be removed, but dont panic, they just increase affliction chance. Get gift of health and decent regeneration, and they will go.

If you get horror marked, which ain´t removable either, it´s panic time, through...

Nikelaos September 2nd, 2008 06:01 AM

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yeah horror mark is a killer, unless you're playing R'lyeh and it's on your void summoned vastness, happened to me on single player and i had a party, Mr vastness kept on enslaving attacking horrors.

Atreidi September 4th, 2008 09:35 PM

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Ouch, you are now cursed for life :( If you dont sacrifice that unit, YOU could get coursed too !!! :P

Epaminondas September 5th, 2008 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Poopsi (Post 635774)
Curses cannot be removed, but dont panic, they just increase affliction chance. Get gift of health and decent regeneration, and they will go.

If you get horror marked, which ain´t removable either, it´s panic time, through...

What's so bad about being horror-marked, if you have a strong leader though? I had my Prophet repeatedly kill every horror sent his way, as well as a Hunter of Heroes. Doesn't it depend on the strength of the unit horror-marked?

Epaminondas September 5th, 2008 06:15 AM

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Also does Nethgul give you a horror mark that's somehow undocumented? It may be a coincidence, but I've gotten horror-marked every time I've forged one. Luckily, Nethgul deals with horrors well :)

Tifone September 5th, 2008 12:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Epaminondas (Post 636495)
What's so bad about being horror-marked, if you have a strong leader though?

Oh no, now that you said that, I will start to have my old nightmares about the maker of ruins again :hurt:

Taqwus September 5th, 2008 01:25 PM

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Nethgul does horror-mark. Hey, if you're imitating the Mi-Go and carrying a brain in a jar...

Epaminondas September 5th, 2008 02:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Taqwus (Post 636587)
Nethgul does horror-mark. Hey, if you're imitating the Mi-Go and carrying a brain in a jar...

Hmmm, would you say then it's not worth it? Nethgul is a powerful item though...

Epaminondas September 5th, 2008 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tifone (Post 636575)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Epaminondas (Post 636495)
What's so bad about being horror-marked, if you have a strong leader though?

Oh no, now that you said that, I will start to have my old nightmares about the maker of ruins again :hurt:

Huh?

hunt11 September 5th, 2008 03:09 PM

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he's talking about the doom horrors which will kill almost anything that they fight with in about two turns

Epaminondas September 5th, 2008 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hunt11 (Post 636607)
he's talking about the doom horrors which will kill almost anything that they fight with in about two turns

Doom Horrors aren't scarier than Hunter of Heroes, are they?

Ewierl September 5th, 2008 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Epaminondas (Post 636619)
Doom Horrors aren't scarier than Hunter of Heroes, are they?

The unique ones are, in fact, ludicrously more powerful than the HoH.

Epaminondas September 5th, 2008 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ewierl (Post 636621)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Epaminondas (Post 636619)
Doom Horrors aren't scarier than Hunter of Heroes, are they?

The unique ones are, in fact, ludicrously more powerful than the HoH.

Hmmm, really?

So would you recommend not forging any items that can horror-mark you (e.g. Nethgul), and suiciding horror-marked units (even if it is a powerful unit like a Seraph or a mega-empowered prophet)?

Taqwus September 5th, 2008 04:39 PM

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Well, you do have to be careful. It's not necessarily wise to have your pretenders or other commanders you really want to want to preserve get horror-marked, for instance, since horror marks stick around even after Call God (or immortality or Ritual of Rebirth, for others).

And yes, the top tier is pretty nasty...

Poopsi September 5th, 2008 04:44 PM

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*sacrifices a few slaves to appease the hunger of the Maker of Ruins*


you know, one of those ate my Moloch pretender while playing Abyssia. I committed the mistake of trying to cast Eternal Pyre while under the effects of (my own) astral corruption...

Dedas September 5th, 2008 04:45 PM

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If I was to add one thing it would be this: Doom horrors live up to their name.

Epaminondas September 5th, 2008 05:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Taqwus (Post 636630)
Well, you do have to be careful. It's not necessarily wise to have your pretenders or other commanders you really want to want to preserve get horror-marked, for instance, since horror marks stick around even after Call God (or immortality or Ritual of Rebirth, for others).

And yes, the top tier is pretty nasty...

Ok, then what do I do with horror-marked SCs? They are too valuable to suicide. For instance I have a Niefel Jarl with "Unequaled Obesity," and awesome equipment--including the Gorgon shield. Shouldn't he be able to handle most things coming his way?

Edi September 5th, 2008 05:35 PM

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The gorgon shield can help him if it gets through the MR 20 of the doom horrors, but just load up the Dom3 DB and take a look at the following guys:

Hunter of Heroes
Maker of Ruins
Eater of Gods (no kidding, especially the two latter forms with true ethereal)
Eater of Dreams
Abomination of Desolation

The Maker of Ruins and the Abomination of Desolation are pretty damned nasty and the other guys aren't exactly what you want to invite for a picnic either. Normal horrors are cute little fluffy-bunnies compared to these fellows.

Epaminondas September 5th, 2008 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Edi (Post 636650)
The gorgon shield can help him if it gets through the MR 20 of the doom horrors, but just load up the Dom3 DB and take a look at the following guys:

Hunter of Heroes
Maker of Ruins
Eater of Gods (no kidding, especially the two latter forms with true ethereal)
Eater of Dreams
Abomination of Desolation

The Maker of Ruins and the Abomination of Desolation are pretty damned nasty and the other guys aren't exactly what you want to invite for a picnic either. Normal horrors are cute little fluffy-bunnies compared to these fellows.

But how often will my horror-marked Niefel Jarl SC meet those guys? He's already whopped Rarku, the Hunter of Heroes.

So what ought I to do with horror-marked units as a general advice? Do I suicide all but the most powerful SCs?

Taqwus September 5th, 2008 06:59 PM

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I don't see the point in suiciding them, since death that way isn't guaranteed to be any nicer than death by horror if you're already highly horror-marked. You just need to make sure that they either can cope, or that your plans won't be hampered too much if they find out that they can't. Coping requires high magic resistance to avoid the instant-death attacks, at a very minimum.

Don't forget the Slave to Unreason, either. Interesting fellow, Kurgi.

Epaminondas September 5th, 2008 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Taqwus (Post 636676)
I don't see the point in suiciding them, since death that way isn't guaranteed to be any nicer than death by horror if you're already highly horror-marked. You just need to make sure that they either can cope, or that your plans won't be hampered too much if they find out that they can't. Coping requires high magic resistance to avoid the instant-death attacks, at a very minimum.

Don't forget the Slave to Unreason, either. Interesting fellow, Kurgi.

I thought someone said horror marks spread to other units? How do you generally avoid getting horror marked anyways?

Zeldor September 5th, 2008 07:11 PM

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Edi:

I remember when my Treelord once charmed Abomination of Desolation :)

Edi September 6th, 2008 08:06 AM

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Horror marks don't spread. Some specific units can spread diseases to other units, but they have a special icon that tell you that. If you have sites in a province that horrormark units, then you can get random horrormarks.

Taqwus September 8th, 2008 05:28 PM

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There's also 'Horror Seed', a nasty ritual which causes the victim to be a contagious horror-marker, essentially. And the victims sprout lesser horrors if and when they die in battle, if memory serves. I don't recall if anybody's tested the frequency of horror-marking.

But generally speaking, unless you're sitting around in the Vale of Infinite Horror, carrying horror-marking equipment, facing astral mages who use Horror Mark or Astral Geyser, get hit by a horror sent by somebody else (horrors tend to have Astral Hooks which horror-mark you; also, non-blood forging or rituals during Astral Corruption), or cast spells which horror-mark the caster (Hell Power comes to mind)... they're not spontaneous.

Don't sit in the Vale wielding Magebane, a Robe of the Archmage, the Boots of the Planes, the Forbidden Light and the Gift of Kurgi unless you enjoy making very otherworldly and violent acquaintances.

JaghataiKhan September 19th, 2008 05:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Taqwus (Post 637280)
There's also 'Horror Seed', a nasty ritual which causes the victim to be a contagious horror-marker, essentially. And the victims sprout lesser horrors if and when they die in battle, if memory serves. I don't recall if anybody's tested the frequency of horror-marking.

But generally speaking, unless you're sitting around in the Vale of Infinite Horror, carrying horror-marking equipment, facing astral mages who use Horror Mark or Astral Geyser, get hit by a horror sent by somebody else (horrors tend to have Astral Hooks which horror-mark you; also, non-blood forging or rituals during Astral Corruption), or cast spells which horror-mark the caster (Hell Power comes to mind)... they're not spontaneous.

Don't sit in the Vale wielding Magebane, a Robe of the Archmage, the Boots of the Planes, the Forbidden Light and the Gift of Kurgi unless you enjoy making very otherworldly and violent acquaintances.

What are all these items and places? Can I read the game content in some library, Dominionapedia?

Edi September 20th, 2008 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JaghataiKhan (Post 639183)
What are all these items and places? Can I read the game content in some library, Dominionapedia?

There's a Dominions 3 Strategy Wiki but it's very barebones. Basic mechanics of the game and item descriptions etc are in the manual. There are also other reference documents available on the forums, such as the Dom3 DB. No descriptive text in that, just hard data. Otherwise scour the forums. Lots of discussions about many of these things.


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