.com.unity Forums

.com.unity Forums (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/index.php)
-   Dominions 3: The Awakening (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/forumdisplay.php?f=138)
-   -   Un-Glamour (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=40962)

Jagdpanther October 22nd, 2008 09:34 AM

Un-Glamour
 
How do I un-glamour enemy troops? Does the black-mirror do this on the whole battle-field?

Thanks

Gregstrom October 22nd, 2008 10:01 AM

Re: Un-Glamour
 
It should, I think.

Otherwise, large AofE damage spells are good. Even a single point of damage takes off Glamour.

Tichy October 22nd, 2008 10:19 AM

Re: Un-Glamour
 
Does the eye of the void do anything vs. glamour?

chrispedersen October 22nd, 2008 10:42 AM

Re: Un-Glamour
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jagdpanther (Post 647348)
How do I un-glamour enemy troops? Does the black-mirror do this on the whole battle-field?

Thanks

50 slingers.

Poopsi October 22nd, 2008 12:42 PM

Re: Un-Glamour
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chrispedersen (Post 647354)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jagdpanther (Post 647348)
How do I un-glamour enemy troops? Does the black-mirror do this on the whole battle-field?

Thanks

50 slingers.

For some reason I found this reply very funny :D:D

HoneyBadger October 22nd, 2008 04:52 PM

Re: Un-Glamour
 
50 elephants also work :)

Bwaha October 22nd, 2008 05:42 PM

Re: Un-Glamour
 
Markata archers, you won't mind losing them either. Or Holberg archers. The markata are chaff, holbergs you want to keep around.:D

Illuminated One October 22nd, 2008 05:55 PM

Re: Un-Glamour
 
What about single target spells like starfires?
According to the manual Mirror Image should be negated upon a hit from a magical weapon (and spells count as that unless they are mundane, right?).
What I want to know is if the Mirror Image has a certain chance to deny the attack or does the spell hit automatically if it hits the right square.

Gregstrom October 22nd, 2008 06:09 PM

Re: Un-Glamour
 
Err, mirror image is negated by damage from any source - mundane or not. Mirror Image has a chance do protect against melee attacks only - ranged attacks have a normal chance of hitting.

Non-AofE spells aren't always going to hit when they impact the correct square. They might hit an empty part of the square (if there are less than 6 size units of troops in it), or the damage might be absorbed by armour/shields. Star Fires won't be affected by the second factor as it's AN, but many spells are.

I suspect you'd find missile weapons more effective than Star Fires against most glamoured units, because you can get so many more in the air.

MaxWilson October 22nd, 2008 08:54 PM

Re: Un-Glamour
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregstrom (Post 647443)
Non-AofE spells aren't always going to hit when they impact the correct square. They might hit an empty part of the square (if there are less than 6 size units of troops in it), or the damage might be absorbed by armour/shields.

I would be surprised if there were a separate check to hit part of an empty square, because the missile check already covers that. I think it's

1.) Select a target randomly from units, if any, in the square.
2.) Apply the missile hit formula from the manual (an opposed roll taking into account defender shield, fatigue, and how crowded the square is).

That's why it's effective to give mages bodyguards in their square, because even though the chance of losing the opposed roll goes up, the chance of being the selected target goes down by a factor of three with 2 bodyguards. And mages usually lose the opposed roll anyway because of fatigue.

-Max

Gregstrom October 23rd, 2008 02:51 AM

Re: Un-Glamour
 
My bad - I got that bit rather wrong.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:43 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2025, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.