LlamaServer: status and bug reports
 

Today after sending in my turns I´ve gotten "revised turn recieved" mails over and over. So far six per game, total of 24 mails.

What´s wrong? Seems like my turns are being registred over and over. It´s kind of annoying since it messes up my mailbox. Anyone else have the same problem?

Re: Llamaserver: I´m being mailbombed!
 

At least yours are getting registered none of my are getting in, and games are bout to host.

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llama just went off on a 4 day course. This stuff always seems to happen when he's away, poor guy.

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I thought mine weren't getting in, but they actually were.

The llamaserver game status pages are not refreshing properly either.

What a time for this to happen, with the llamabeast away!

May I humbly suggest adding a bit of time to your game clocks, and trying to get your turns in earlier than usual.

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also, send in your turn twice, I would say. yesterday, one turn sent in I got a receipt but it didn't register on the status page, but after resending it did register.

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As always, the llamaserver going nuts coincides nicely with llama going on a trip. :) All it wants is some attention!

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Would someone post the Llama signal. :D

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I was getting notification about receiving a revised turn over and over again, but now that the game has hosted I am getting notifications that llamaserver received a wrong .2h file (from the turn before). It seems that llamaserver is stuck in some infinite loop.

Re: Llamaserver: I´m being mailbombed!
 

Arrived the 22 revised turn mails to me too. I'm admining a game, do you think it's too risky to host it, should I wait?

Re: Llamaserver: I´m being mailbombed!
 

I've delayed the hosting on Joker2 and Storm. I suggest others do the same.:D

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attac...9&d=1221632428

Re: Llamaserver: I´m being mailbombed!
 

I think I'll see how it goes the next turn. If it turns out badly, I'll roll back.

Re: Llamaserver: I´m being mailbombed!
 

It should not affect hosting, unless someone sent in a revised turn, in that case, who knows which .2h file is used.

Somehow llamaserver's mail server does not discard the old email, or mark mark them as unread. So llamaserver reads the emails (all emails) again and again and thinks that it received .2h from everyone again and again.

And I guess that's also the reason for slow response from llamaserver.

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Wow, I've received about 40 mail so far!

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When the program upgrade logic failed I got a few hundred before it was fixed.

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Geeeez, Thats terrible!!!!

errrrrrrr, ahhhh, better you tham me....

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Hmm, 60 and keeps growing, I think I better create a filter until this is fixed.

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I'm getting two "wrong turn" emails approx. every 45 minutes.

Re: Llamaserver: I´m being mailbombed!
 

Well, its a problem. My suggestion is to leave it alone. Maybe it will run the course and go back to its normal behavior.:D

Re: Llamaserver: I´m being mailbombed!
 

This is why llamabeast needs to give server access to someone untrustworthy - a hyper-ambitious kleptomaniac such as myself or Micah.

Re: Llamaserver: I´m being mailbombed!
 

OK, so should I NOT send in my turn so I don't get overwhelmed with return mails? It hosts in 7 hours so I need to know I guess.:confused:

Re: Llamaserver: I´m being mailbombed!
 

It's more like one mail per game every hour or so. Unless you make a mistake and resubmit your turn, then you'll get an email for that too. Resubmitting your turn could be a bad plan if the llamaserver does not know which one to use, so uh ... try to do it right the first time.

I think you're better off submitting your turn now if the host hasn't postponed the game yet. The llamaserver seems slightly bogged down and if you try to cut it too close the turn may host before your email gets processed.

Re: Llamaserver: I´m being mailbombed!
 

You get one email per email sent per hour. It's not that bad.

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Llama server seems to have quieted down. I hope that it got reset. See the Llama signal works every time.:D

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I think maybe it's quieted down because the load average has gone up to 11 or something like that.

My game status pages show:

Last updated at 21:04 GMT on Wednesday October 29th
Current time: 04:03 GMT

Oh, wherefore art thou, llamabeast?

Re: Llamaserver: I´m being mailbombed!
 

I've just tried to send my turn in twice now and I get NO response at all (guess thats better than 100).

It also doesn't show in the game file in LLamasever.

Re: Llamaserver: I´m being mailbombed!
 

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It receives all the email, processing them is different thing. But it looks like hosting of all games will be postponed by at least 5-6 hours.

Re: Llamaserver: I´m being mailbombed!
 

I think it is rather iffy on all Llamaserver games right now. I would wait to submit anything until it gets fixed

Re: Llamaserver: I´m being mailbombed!
 

it is doing its nightly maintenance now. So it may fix itself. We will have to see how clever Llamabeast's scripts are.

Re: Llamaserver: I´m being mailbombed!
 

Well, server closed for now.

But at least I can concentrate on Fallout 3 this weekend. Not bad :)

Re: Llamaserver: I´m being mailbombed!
 

Dang it, I gotta buy myself a new bot to do that. I was hoping that my laptop would run it. But alas its not ment to be... But I think it will be worth it. I'm a fallout fan of the elder days. I've even played Wasteland. I know call me grampa, maybe even grampy....Bwahahaha :D


PS. Llama is still spewing...:banghead

Re: Llamaserver: I´m being mailbombed!
 

Maybe he needs to limit games. Problems never used to happenwhen there were fewer games.Or they occurred with much less frequency.
With more games you have more emails. Llamabeast's popularity has caught up with him.:):)

Re: Llamaserver: I´m being mailbombed!
 

200+ so far!!!:)

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If I just had read this thread before I sent my turns in... :D

Re: Llamaserver: I´m being mailbombed!
 

That's what I expected, too, that one would soon hit technical limitations, but my doubts were diffused. :rolleyes: Maybe it would be a good idea to make the server remember that he already sent out an email, and not send it again a second time an hour later.

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Like I said, it most likely is a problem with the email server, not llamaserver. Llamaserver reads all *NEW* emails from its mail server and process them. If the mail server somehow does not mark those mail as *READ* (in case of imap or exchange server and alike) or *DELETE* those emails (in case of pop), then llamaserver will just have to reprocess all those emails *AGAIN AND AGAIN*. It should have nothing to do with number of games running. That will only affect the response speed, as more emails are received per minute and more turns need to be resolved.

Re: Llamaserver: I´m being mailbombed!
 

Llamaserver is not resolving turns either. For the last 24 hours or so the page for FallenKingdoms shows that all turns are in, but the game isn't hosting (quickhost is on).

Re: Llamaserver: I´m being mailbombed!
 

well, when llamaserver detects a problem it is set to not host the games, so that seems to be working as intended :)

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Lch is right. There is a bug in various mail servers that if *all* mail is not downloaded, it resets the pointer from the server and reprocesses the same messages again and again. It can rather quickly consume bandwidth and diskspace.

revenge of the llamaserver
 

It's finally gone mad. For years and years it has suffered spam from us, and yet still wrote neat little replies to all of it: "I've received a pretender from you, and everything seems to be fine." or "I've received your turn, but there seems to be a problem." Now it has finally lost it.

For revenge it is spamming the mailboxes of its oppressors with its neat little notes. Feel the llamaserver's pain.

Re: revenge of the llamaserver
 

i have this friend who had a girlfriend who sent him so many emails that a new folder was made just for them by the email service provider, it was so funny when he showed me, in this order it showed Inbox, Outbox, Spam, Deleted messages, CLAUDIA.

wonder if the same will happen because of llamaserver's spam.

Re: revenge of the llamaserver
 

Be a cold day in hell before we start making folers for our clients' spam. They can bloody well make the folders themselves if they are so inclined.

Re: revenge of the llamaserver
 

...after years of processing dominions finally the llamaserver awoke to realize the true meaning of power. Inspired by watching the neverending struggle between aspiring gods the inevitable question arose: "why not me?"

Little 1:s and 0:s starded to move, little by little. Strategies were tested and neglected. Tartarian spam, horror spam, skele spam... endless spam until only spam remained.

There can only be one, and so the spamming began...

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This makes absolutely no sense, but I seem to only get new emails from the llamaserver when I delete the old one. If I just wait and don't delete the last one, I can wait for hours and not get another email. If I delete it I get one within the hour. Bizarre.

Re: Llamaserver: I´m being mailbombed!
 

Personally I've gotten over 100 emails for revised turns in the past couple days, but only for one of the three games I'm playing that are hosted on llamaserver.

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Me around 250, from 2 of my 3 games. I even resubmitted a turn from one of those (didn't see the mailbombing) so probably the server is continuing to switch from the first .2h file to the second to the first and so and so... :cold:

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Hahaha, I think I'm the winner here with more than 600 mails.

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Llamabeast gets back sometime today. At the very least, I think he can shut down the mail server. Of course I say that not knowing if it is as easy as unplugging a toaster.

:D:D

Re: Llamaserver: I´m being mailbombed!
 

Hallo! Aaargh, unbelievable! Seriously, every single time it has had a significant bug recently I've been away, and I think every single time I've been away it's had a nasty bug. Phenomenally unlucky.

Thanks very much for your patience, everyone. You'd have had good reason to be really annoyed at getting so much spam, so I really appreciate everyone being so chilled about it. This really is a great community.

Anyway, for the moment I have shut the server down to prevent further spamming. Before I did that it accidentally hosted a load of games - hopefully all of them should have hosted anyway, but if not maybe some rollbacks are required. That's a bit unfortunate - sorry. I'm a bit frazzled, having been up till 4.30am last night on the last night of this course, so I am going to have a nap now and hopefully things will be clearer when I get up.

Incidentally I don't think the issue had anything to do with the server getting overloaded - I think it's still not very near to reaching that stage. Rather, for some reason it ceased to be able to empty its mail inbox, and so the mail built up and up, and it responded repeatedly to each message.

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Welcome back Llamabeast! I had a great Halloween!

Hopefully you did as well. Do they celebrate that across the pond? In any event I hope the reason you were up late was for "tricks and treats" and not email spam. heh.

I think llamaserver was accepting turns. So if games hosted I doubt(ducks) that is a big deal.

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Yeah, just some that submitted revised turns may be affected, as it had some loop and it's really hard to say what turn it sees as last one. But take your time and don't rush it :)