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Beorne November 11th, 2008 04:02 PM

What is Grigorius the Grigori??
 
My Pazuzu SC "Killer of Doom Horror Lords" transformed into it and ascended ... :confused:
What is?

VedalkenBear November 11th, 2008 04:05 PM

Re: What is Grigorius the Grigori??
 
Ohhh... this I need to know. :)

lch November 11th, 2008 04:10 PM

Re: What is Grigorius the Grigori??
 
It's some unit which pops up and leaves again on his own whims, for what I know.

Grigorius the Grigori is an ancient being sent to watch the affairs of contending gods. He answers tha call of wishful thinking and will appear and disappear at his own liking.

Wait, "tha call"? That's a typo in the description, just there.

Sombre November 11th, 2008 04:24 PM

Re: What is Grigorius the Grigori??
 
No, it's just he's a playah. When dawg dun heyahs tha call he ready ta throw down fah reals.

Beorne November 11th, 2008 04:25 PM

Re: What is Grigorius the Grigori??
 
It appeared to me as the "rightful hand of the dungeon master" ...

Tifone November 11th, 2008 04:55 PM

Re: What is Grigorius the Grigori??
 
Your Pazuzu turned into it? I think I remember that happened sometimes. It's a very rare bug of a unit turning into another. Being Gregorius unit n.1 seems likely this bug. Sorry for ya :(

Aezeal November 11th, 2008 05:14 PM

Re: What is Grigorius the Grigori??
 
I know he was created so you can't wish for the powerfull gath etc summons of the same name. your pazazu changing into him problem I know nothing about.. never ever played with pazazu myself.. never live long enough in MP and in SP I usually don't bother

Illuminated One November 11th, 2008 05:30 PM

Re: What is Grigorius the Grigori??
 
That's a very strange bug.
I have never tested it but there is a spell that makes a unit turn into a horror some turns later.
Maybe Grigorius is classed as a (doom) horror (for the going away effect) and your SC was affected by this spell or a similar effect while severely horrormarked (well, judging from the name...)?

JimMorrison November 11th, 2008 05:36 PM

Re: What is Grigorius the Grigori??
 
I'm pretty sure Pazuzu's actual title is Prince (or Lord) of the Plague Winds - not whatever was said in the OP. :P

Sombre November 12th, 2008 06:30 AM

Re: What is Grigorius the Grigori??
 
Maybe it isn't a bug. Maybe it's a way KO added to remove ridiculous SCs from the world.

Or maybe that's what he'll claim it is.

Beorne November 12th, 2008 10:24 AM

Re: What is Grigorius the Grigori??
 
I'd like to know if Grigorius the Grigori it is a bug or a wad, even if the game was almost finished the vanished sc was very strong and this is an important issue to know.

PS: Is GtG a real in-game unit?

Gregstrom November 12th, 2008 10:44 AM

Re: What is Grigorius the Grigori??
 
Units turning into Grigorius is probably a bug rather than WAD.

He is a real in-game unit, although you'll only ever see him by Wishing for a Grigori.

Edi November 12th, 2008 11:18 AM

Re: What is Grigorius the Grigori??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregstrom (Post 652085)
Units turning into Grigorius is probably a bug rather than WAD.

He is a real in-game unit, although you'll only ever see him by Wishing for a Grigori.

Yes, it's a bug. A very rare bug that nobody has managed to make consistently reproducible. Before there was a Grigorius the Grigori, there was Old Centurion, a legacy unit from Dom1 that has not been used even in Dom2. So to prevent wishing for the Hinnomite Grigori, Grigorius was added. Before that particular patch, some units sometimes turned into Old Centurions and vanished.

Though if there is some sort of flavor text, it might even be the warped sense of humor Illwinter has sometimes demonstrated. But I doubt it.

Endoperez November 12th, 2008 11:25 AM

Re: What is Grigorius the Grigori??
 
Grigorius the Grigori exists to prevent anyone wishing for the Hinnom national summons, who are also called Grigori. Because Wish gives you the first creature of that wished-for type that it finds, and Grigorius the Grigori is unit number 1, anyone wishing for a Grigori will get Grigorius instead of the ultra-buff angel-demon game-breaker he thought he'd get.

There's a rare, unrelated bug that resets a commander's unit type to unit type 1. This used to be an orange-shielded (i.e. old graphics from an earlier version) Legionnaire or Standard Bearer of Pythium. Grigorious the Grigori's description refers to him appearing and disappearing at his choice, so now this old bug has become more confusing.

lch November 16th, 2008 01:51 PM

Re: What is Grigorius the Grigori??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sombre (Post 651851)
No, it's just he's a playah. When dawg dun heyahs tha call he ready ta throw down fah reals.

http://i33.tinypic.com/20tfouu.jpg

Epaminondas November 19th, 2008 07:02 PM

Re: What is Grigorius the Grigori??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Endoperez (Post 652095)
Grigorius the Grigori exists to prevent anyone wishing for the Hinnom national summons, who are also called Grigori. Because Wish gives you the first creature of that wished-for type that it finds, and Grigorius the Grigori is unit number 1, anyone wishing for a Grigori will get Grigorius instead of the ultra-buff angel-demon game-breaker he thought he'd get.

I am not sure I see the rationale, because I don't think a Grigori is THAT much more powerful than other elite SC wishables like the Seraph, the Chayot, and some of the four-armed Hindu freaks :)


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