Asia Twist - Wraithlord Wins!
 

Greetings:

This PBEM game uses the Asia Twist map that I finished recently. These are the settings:

Era: Middle
Map: Asia Twist (with randomly assigned preset starting positions that come with the map)
# of Players: 19 (16 land; 3 water)
Starting provinces: 1
Indies: 7
Special Sites: 45
Money/Resource/Supply: 100
Random events: common
Score graphs: on
Hall of Fame: 15
Research: Standard
Renaming: on
Mods: none

Victory condition: 1 victory point in each player capital. Must control 7 out of 19 to win.

Hosting schedule: Daily through the first 15 turns, then 3 turns/week hosted on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays at approx. 9:00 pm. Boston time.

By the way, I still host games by hand. This is not a llamaserver game (although I think the llamaserver is way sassy). :)

You can find the map here. You should download both the .rgb and .map files. http://www.mediafire.com/file/12jekd3hzgz/AsiaTwist.zip

Player List:

Arco - - - > Dragonfire
Ashdod - - - >Meglobob
Atlantis - - - > Jim Morrison
Bandar Log - - - > Pasha
Caelum - - - > Revolution
C'Tis - - - > Wokeye
Ermor - - - > mscfish
Eriu - - - > Slobby
Jotunheim - - - > Wraithlord
Machaka - - - > KO
Mictlan - - - > Nikelaos, then Alneyan and now Quantum Mechani
Oceania - - - > Dectilon
Pangaea - - - > DonCorazon
Pythium - - - > okiN
R'lyeh - - - > Aristander
Shinuyama - - - > djo
Tien Chi - - - > Aethyr
Ulm - - - > Grudgebringer
Vanheim - - - > Archae


WRAITHLORD WON ON TURN 79.

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (open)
 

Welcome, Meglobob!

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (open)
 

Welcome, Slobby!

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (open)
 

CBM, maybe? ;)

As far as VPs go, maybe 7 would be better, would require a bit of momentum to get there, but shouldn't drag the game out tooooo long.

Maybe Magic Sites at 50%? :D

Okay, I'll be good. :p

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (open)
 

I have only just joined but I would love CBM mod as well, remember it includes worthy heros as well.

Everything else looks good.

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (open)
 

Welcome, Nikelaos.

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (open)
 

Hi:

Because the map is big, I'd prefer to keep special sites at 45. A 7 victory point requirement is okay. I don't think we want it to be any higher than that. I like it when games end by around turn 80.

I have nothing against the Conceptual Balance mod. I like the game both ways, but I think it would be groovy to play the game with KO in full vanilla style.

Pasha

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (open)
 

Welcome, Dectilon

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (open)
 

Ahhhh! You have a point..... He is likely here to test someone out a little, and needs to see how they play out as is. Oddly though, if that weren't the case, I think it would actually be really awesome if he could see how CBM plays out (do you play SP ever, KO? :p), just to contrast with the vanilla game, in case any of the changes might be implemented officially. ;)

And I'm fine with the Magic Sites, just figured I'd try. :p I likes me some gems!

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (open)
 

Thanks for pulling this together Pasha and for the beautiful map. I'm looking forward to a vanilla game.

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (open)
 

Oh I forgot KO was playing! Hope he gets a nation that needs some developer love, Ma Mictlan became a great nation to play with the changes he made after he last played them.

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (open)
 

KO, huh? That's pretty cool. :)

I have no particular preference in the CBM matter. I usually play CB, but since I've not played a vanilla game in ages it might be a welcome change.

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (open)
 

Hey, feels great to finally be in an MP game! I'm going to get my *** kicked so hard ;)

I guess I'll go off and practice vanilla...

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (open)
 

Right you are. KO, there is no nation in need of more love than Machaka. :)

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (open)
 

I don't mind CBM. It was ages since I tried it. I'm familiar enough with most vanilla nations to identify CBM changes I think.

I have no preferences regarding nations. I did not sign up primarily to test, but I don't mind playing any nation, and I will likely get ideas for the nation I play. Perhaps more so in MA, since most MA nations are older and haven't been changed much since dom2.

Is 45 a common setting? Seems high, but I haven't played much MP. I have no objections, just wondering.

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (open)
 

Well, default for MA is 40, of course - but it seems one of the most common settings tweaks in MP, is a slight increase in site frequency.

I for one am actually more excited that you joined this game just for fun, Kristoffer. I had gotten the impression from a few things you and others had said, that you only ever find time for a game when you have a specific purpose to do, so it's good to see you just coming for the enjoyment of it!

I would agree with the consensus that Machaka could use some attention, but if you didn't come here to play them for inspiration, then I'd wholeheartedly encourage you to play someone that is more interesting already.

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (open)
 

Gahh...can't hold back any longer. I am in.

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (open)
 

Okay! Welcome DonCorazon and Revolution.

I think we have a full house now.

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (open)
 

I am happy playing with or without the CB mod. What do other players what? Are there any players who specifically *don't* want to use the CB mod?

Pasha

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

we already got a game set - let's just go for it :)

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

I don't want to play with cbm

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

Okay. We will keep it vanilla. Given that this game was originally posted as vanilla, I think it is best to keep it that way, unless no one had an objection to the switch.

Pasha

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

Archae had a good suggestion concerning the map. The starting positions in Japan and Korea have a disadvantage because they only have 3 neighbors each. Some others have 6. I tried to stick swamps and waste next to starting spots that had a lot of neighbors, but nonetheless.

Archae suggested placing a mine or something next to the Korean and Japanese spots. I think I will do that.

Pasha

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

Yay! I get to conquer part of my home turf (Australia). :)

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

You do? Where is Australia on this map?

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

The southern edge of the map, is the northern shores of Australia.

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

No, it's a wraparound to the same continent.

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

The precise features are slightly modified, in brilliant Pasha fashion, to allow a seamless wraparound effect. However, I must assure you, the map as designed, before wraparound is applied (see the preview in the map thread, or load in Map Editor and uncheck Wrap Around), is based directly off of Earthen geography. As noted, the only major changes were the shifting of Japan, and the inclusion of the tip of Scandinavia to achieve the end result as desired, but Australia is where it should be, what little of it we get - that is not the northern edge of Russia, I assure you.

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

Jim is absolutely correct. The northern section of Australia blurs into Northern Norway to the east and into Russia on the west. There is a little bit of imaginary coastline to finish the transition but not much. Even several province names are from a map of Australia. (Most provinces are named after real places, with some named after players or given fun names.)

Japan was moved west. Korea was moved south, closer to Beijing. Some islands near Papua disappeared. There is a wee bit of Germany south of Denmark, and Estonia is across from Helsinki.

:)

Pasha

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

Ah, fair enough, then. I hadn't checked the province names, but from the wraparound I assumed it was just the one land mass.

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

Well hello all. I have to say that I've been away from the game for a long time. Thank you Pasha for bringing me back. Now, these forums sure have gotten spiffy and it's quite limiting that I cannot "disparage the other person" as set forth in my agreement with the forum holder. I wonder, can I disparage myself? Considering that my dominion skills peaked in Dom2 and never reach higher than a worm, I'd say some self-disparagement is in order.

Anyway, I hope to live long enough to maintain some decent measure of reputation intact.

Bring it on! I already have my mission accomplished sign blowing in the wind.

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

Indeed, I heard an attack on Darwin (Northern Australia) by Abysian troops is part of the new Baz Luhrmann flick. Timely! :)

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

What about nation assignment?- We need time to make all sorts of crazy experiments :)

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

"Players should email me their top 5 choices. I have not received choices from: Aethyr, Archae, Wokeye, Dragonfire, DonCorazon or Nikelaos. KO has said that he will play any nation. As soon as I have everyone's preferences, I can then send out nation assignments."

That was the word yesterday, so I guess some people still haven't sent their picks, or Pasha hasn't had a chance to check his mail yet.

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

Sent mine in yesterday.

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

I say let the late choosers be punished. Give them what other crappy MA nations there are, the last to choose should get MA Abysia, the crippled nation, or the nation of old cripples ;)

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

also, i would like to vote for banning ashdod... seriously :)

unless KO wants to play it for some reason - basically, they're too much of a pain, and need at least some hinnom-like nerf

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

Is Ashdod stronger than Jotum or Pythium for that matter?- Possibly yes. Is it that much stronger as to make it broken?

I'm not saying it doesn't necessarily needs to be toned down. Maybe it does. But I'm not sure it must be banned from this game. This is a diplomacy game, if Ashdod takes a huge lead at the beginning a few nations can band together and stop it. Just like with LA Ermor or R'lyeh.

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

Plus, not all of us are very good at this game. Ashdod is not fearsome in every player's hands.

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

I think I'm pretty much guaranteed to get my first choice. I don't think a lot of people like my team of choice... That's why I chose them to begin with : )

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

Hunan 173 does not seem to be a valid start location.

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

ooh lemme guess

Machaka?

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

all machaka needs is some improvement on their troops, including the sacreds, and pd with more backbone than a sack of offal. :)

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

I think if the little Spider Knights were sacred, or there were some sort of recruitable anywhere sacred, they'd be a pretty happy nation.

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

Oh! You're right! There are 16 land starts, not 15! We can fix that easily, but probably need one more player!

Thank you, Arch. What would I do without you???

Pasha

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

my problem with machaka is they go from hardly armed chaff to pillar of steel riding a giant mutant tarantula with hardly anything in between,

having some sort of medium infantry with less resources than the hoplites (say 15ish) would be nice, offcourse a recruitable anywhere sacred would work wonders. Apart from that i like their magic, like the fact they have unusually low encumberance.

perhaps some national spells?

ah whatever anyway guys i think we should drop it, KO's seems to be here for fun not purpose unlike most times so lets not spoil it with our complaints and ideas, unless he asks in which case we attempt to make his head explode with information.

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

Asia: so big, you lose count.

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

We need one more player. I am opening things up for one more recruit!

Pasha

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

Mer Dur.

May Hem.

Re: Asia Twist - Pbem (Starts Sunday)
 

Heh. Apparently several players are vying for this nation -- Pasha will have to pick very carefully. :D

My nation picks are not particularly creative, but I've never played any of them in Dom3 MP so they should still be pretty fresh. I'm confident I can get one of them, at least.