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Ironhawk December 9th, 2008 02:59 PM

Tomb Oracles have only one eye
 
Zeldor and I have noticed that Tomb Oracles appear to have only a single eye? We've summoned a fair amount and when they recieve eye injuries they get the "Lost his only eye" affliction, rather than the "Lost an eye", as you would expect. As far as I know, all living agarthans have two eyes. Is this an oversight or WAD?

Omnirizon December 9th, 2008 03:05 PM

Re: Bug: Tomb Oracles have only one eye?
 
I was pretty sure they have only one eye. not at home so don't have the graphic in front of me, but doesn't even their sprite show only one eye?

Psycho December 9th, 2008 03:15 PM

Re: Bug: Tomb Oracles have only one eye?
 
Agartans are one-eyed. Read the description on any of their units.

Gregstrom December 9th, 2008 03:16 PM

Re: Bug: Tomb Oracles have only one eye?
 
...or the race description, in fact.

Zeldor December 9th, 2008 03:35 PM

Re: Bug: Tomb Oracles have only one eye?
 
Ha, never bothered to take a look at EA or MA AGartha, they are so weak and sad to look at. And it still amazes me how they got so many imprisoned gods that they defeated and put Umbrals on guard.

Aezeal December 9th, 2008 03:44 PM

Re: Bug: Tomb Oracles have only one eye?
 
lol... fail

Tifone December 9th, 2008 03:48 PM

Re: Bug: Tomb Oracles have only one eye?
 
Umbrals aren't on guard. The Seal Guards are on guard - and they have magical obsidian lances to harm the Umbrals.

EA Agartha is great btw :mad:

JimMorrison December 9th, 2008 04:06 PM

Re: Bug: Tomb Oracles have only one eye?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tifone (Post 658570)
Umbrals aren't on guard. The Seal Guards are on guard - and they have magical obsidian lances to harm the Umbrals.

EA Agartha is great btw :mad:

Actually, the Umbrals are the spirits of those who sacrificed themselves to create "The Seal", which we don't know for sure what it holds. The Seal Guards are guarding the rest of Agartha from the increasing number of Umbrals (and maybe other things? wights?) that are becoming more numerous as "The Seal" weakens. :p

Psycho December 9th, 2008 04:23 PM

Re: Bug: Tomb Oracles have only one eye?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeldor (Post 658564)
Ha, never bothered to take a look at EA or MA AGartha, they are so weak and sad to look at.

That's a very wrong attitude. There are many interesting nations that are not among top MP picks. You are missing a lot.

Omnirizon December 9th, 2008 04:32 PM

Re: Bug: Tomb Oracles have only one eye?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Psycho (Post 658587)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeldor (Post 658564)
Ha, never bothered to take a look at EA or MA AGartha, they are so weak and sad to look at.

That's a very wrong attitude. There are many interesting nations that are not among top MP picks. You are missing a lot.

I completely agree. It is much more fun (and perhaps classy) to pick nations of moderate power and make them work, rather then sell out to the big guns.

Zeldor December 9th, 2008 04:34 PM

Re: Bug: Tomb Oracles have only one eye?
 
What I meant was that they don't look fun. Look at recruitment screen of MA Agartha. With like 65 nations to play I find many many more interesting nations to choose [not based on strength]. I got LA Agartha in Kingmaker because no one else wanted them, and I love them now :)

JimMorrison December 9th, 2008 04:59 PM

Re: Bug: Tomb Oracles have only one eye?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeldor (Post 658591)
What I meant was that they don't look fun. Look at recruitment screen of MA Agartha. With like 65 nations to play I find many many more interesting nations to choose [not based on strength]. I got LA Agartha in Kingmaker because no one else wanted them, and I love them now :)

MA Agartha is not about their recruitment, it's about national summons..... and thematic feel. But mostly the summons. :p

Ironhawk December 9th, 2008 05:02 PM

Re: Bug: Tomb Oracles have only one eye?
 
Good grief, agarthans really only have one eye? They didnt really need to be any worse!

Psycho December 9th, 2008 05:04 PM

Re: Bug: Tomb Oracles have only one eye?
 
Yea, they look sad, but they are a nation going extinct. Their sad look is quite thematic actually. And I agree, EA/MA agartha is mostly a nation of summons (MA especially).

MaxWilson December 9th, 2008 05:05 PM

Re: Bug: Tomb Oracles have only one eye?
 
LA Agartha is the best of the three because they actually have decent mages. Ironic, considering how EA is generally supposed to be the "magic-heavy" era.

-Max

MaxWilson December 9th, 2008 05:08 PM

Re: Bug: Tomb Oracles have only one eye?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironhawk (Post 658601)
Good grief, agarthans really only have one eye? They didnt really need to be any worse!

It's not so much a matter of making them worse as explaining why they're so bad (in terms of attack/defense/precision). Aside from that, unless you're facing eye shields, the practical difference between one/two/many eyes is essentially nil.

-Max

P.S. I guess it does prevent you from using Eye of Aiming to boost Oracles' precision.

chrispedersen December 11th, 2008 10:38 AM

Re: Bug: Tomb Oracles have only one eye?
 
Y'all are nuts. EA-Agartha *rocks*, but it depends on the game settings.
EA's strengths are not apparent from their units, so you have to look deeper than than that to see the synergies for this race.

Very thematic. Very good.

MaxWilson December 11th, 2008 02:22 PM

Re: Bug: Tomb Oracles have only one eye?
 
But they *do* have rotten attack/defense/precision, and it's because they have only one eye. That doesn't mean they're a rotten nation.

-Max

HoneyBadger December 13th, 2008 05:33 PM

Re: Tomb Oracles have only one eye
 
EA Agartha is one of the toughest Nations around, if properly played. MA is less so, only because they're harder to play, with their kooky bless summons. Still not a really weak Nation.


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