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KissBlade December 14th, 2008 04:37 AM

Wow that Dominions 3 Ad is hot!
 
Haha, when all else fails, turn to sex appeal???

Omnirizon December 14th, 2008 04:57 AM

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it's better than the grotesquely red lips on pale white face. honestly, that add makes me nauseous. it reminds me of Amanda Leopore in this video:

I wear my sunglasses at night Tiga remix w/ Amanda Leopore

whoever designed that needs to go back to media school or wherever people go to do design stuff.

Edi December 14th, 2008 04:57 AM

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Do a search for a topic on the ads. They created quite the firestorm at one point...

Tifone December 14th, 2008 05:41 AM

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We already had 2 threads on this IIRC :D

lch December 14th, 2008 10:12 AM

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I don't think that "all else failed" on the Dominions series. It has pulled in quite a crowd of people by hearsay from other gaming forums alone, and continues to do so. The sex appeal ads apparently get the highest click-through rates according to Shrapnel, that's why they are still there. Like Edi pointed out, you're late to the party.

Gandalf Parker December 14th, 2008 01:46 PM

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One thing that happened due to the previous conversations. Didnt they add a guy or two?

Argitoth December 15th, 2008 03:01 PM

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psh well... in my opinion none of those girls are hot. only one girl deserve that title, that's my fiancee. :up: :happy:

lch December 15th, 2008 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker (Post 660037)
One thing that happened due to the previous conversations. Didnt they add a guy or two?

I think that happened. Though the suggestions for that, like a lot of "praise" for the ads (see OP), were just sarcasm, of course.

archaeolept December 15th, 2008 03:31 PM

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I, too, appreciate the blonde prostitute in the Dominions ads. Does Shrapnel have the complete photoset available free for download, or is it on a "pay to play" basis?

Tifone December 15th, 2008 04:44 PM

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:shock:

Ironhawk December 15th, 2008 04:45 PM

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OMG

Please do not restart the thread about Shrapnel's idiotic pandering to the lowest common demoninator!!

Zeldor December 15th, 2008 05:08 PM

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I think they bought that girls from Bogus, who took them out of some Mictlan's temple basement.

licker December 15th, 2008 05:11 PM

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Can you pander intelligently to the lowest common denominator?

Soyweiser December 15th, 2008 06:52 PM

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I must have an aggressive adblocker, but what add?

Gandalf Parker December 15th, 2008 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by licker (Post 660333)
Can you pander intelligently to the lowest common denominator?

Isnt that called advertising? Outsmarting the lowest common denominator.

Dectilon December 15th, 2008 07:59 PM

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What's the point in pandering to people to stupid to appreciate this game? :)

Gandalf Parker December 15th, 2008 08:07 PM

Re: Wow that Dominions 3 Ad is hot!
 
Lonely guys with nothing better to do than spend many hours pondering strategies and tactics? You are right. Why would they be interested.

Ballbarian December 15th, 2008 09:13 PM

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Quote:

...idiotic pandering to the lowest common demoninator!!
They can pander to me all they want. :)

Loren December 15th, 2008 09:42 PM

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Actually, I'm going to object to the add a little bit:

Why in the world is the 3 on it? She should simply be saying "I want my Dominions". I don't really think there are going to be many Dom 1 or 2 players out there who don't know there's a version 3 out and yet would be interested in buying it.

JimMorrison December 15th, 2008 10:04 PM

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Highest "clickthrough" rating..... irrelevant that 90% of those clicks are teenage boys hoping it is an ad for some trendy new BDSM chat-room or something. :doh:

Raiel December 15th, 2008 11:19 PM

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Completely irrelevant... certainly. I never had more stamina or enthusiasm for, er... strategy games... than when I was a teenager.

Soyweiser December 16th, 2008 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JimMorrison (Post 660394)
Highest "clickthrough" rating..... irrelevant that 90% of those clicks are teenage boys hoping it is an ad for some trendy new BDSM chat-room or something. :doh:

They could also be looking for the industrial band dominions III.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_III

KissBlade December 16th, 2008 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by archaeolept (Post 660308)
I, too, appreciate the blonde prostitute in the Dominions ads. Does Shrapnel have the complete photoset available free for download, or is it on a "pay to play" basis?



I agree with archae.

Omnirizon December 17th, 2008 12:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JimMorrison (Post 660394)
Highest "clickthrough" rating..... irrelevant that 90% of those clicks are teenage boys hoping it is an ad for some trendy new BDSM chat-room or something. :doh:

this is the problem with statistics

people don't understand there is no fundamental truth to any number, but rather there is always an interpretation.

and interpretation is always a little scandalous...

...the strong version of this is the "there is no truth" postmodernism. but even if you don't agree with that, there is a kernel of truth to it :smirk:

JimMorrison December 17th, 2008 02:46 AM

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There is no truth to "there is no truth". That's the truth. No it isn't. It really is, I don't mean that. No, really. No.

:shock:

Gandalf Parker December 17th, 2008 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JimMorrison (Post 660621)
There is no truth to "there is no truth". That's the truth. No it isn't. It really is, I don't mean that. No, really. No.

:shock:

Reminds me of "Now listen carefully Norman.."
(sorry for the old-geeks quote)

Ironhawk December 17th, 2008 02:24 PM

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Those ads are singlehandedly responsible for me not purchasing any more products from Shrapnel.

Alneyan December 17th, 2008 03:59 PM

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Those ads pushed me back towards heterosexuality... is that really supposed to be hot? I'm not sure they'd have pushed me towards Dominions either...

Dedas December 17th, 2008 04:23 PM

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I'm pretty much against the ads as their message doesn't correspond with what they point at. That is, for me, a pretty low way of tricking the potential consumer.

MaxWilson December 17th, 2008 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ironhawk (Post 660705)
Those ads are singlehandedly responsible for me not purchasing any more products from Shrapnel.

I haven't gone quite that far (I will still buy Illwinter's next project if it catches my fancy) but it's a definite turnoff. It does dampen my desire to point people toward Shrapnel games.

Oh no, I'm caught in the thread. Sigh.

-Max

licker December 17th, 2008 07:29 PM

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Where do these ads even show up though?

Are they local to the Shrapnel site? If that's the case then I find it difficult to imagine that anyone stumbled on sharpnel looking for porn.

Otherwise, it's a game site, people are here likely because they are interested in one of the their products, and once here shrapnel is trying to get them to click to as many different games as possible I imagine.

I dunno, the ads don't bother me in the least. Nor do they arouse me for that matter, but ymmv...

sum1lost December 17th, 2008 10:24 PM

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I for one appreciate the incorporation of maenads, succubi, oreiads and the like into advertisements. Also, I'm really not sure how these things are worse than any other advertisement that uses sex (read- most do). Or how using it in an advertisement is wrong somehow. It isn't like it says that if you buy dominions, beautiful men/women will want to sleep with you. Honestly, I've seen worse in advertisements for personal hygeine products, food, and furniture.

quantum_mechani December 17th, 2008 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sum1lost (Post 660839)
Honestly, I've seen worse in advertisements for personal hygeine products, food, and furniture.

I would wager these advertisements at least featured the product in question, somewhere to be seen.

MaxWilson December 18th, 2008 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sum1lost (Post 660839)
I for one appreciate the incorporation of maenads, succubi, oreiads and the like into advertisements.

Hey, good point! From now on these ads will not annoy me. :) You've pointed out the hidden logic.

-Max

Alneyan December 18th, 2008 02:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sum1lost (Post 660839)
Honestly, I've seen worse in advertisements for personal hygeine products, food, and furniture.

Don't worry, I do ***** about those too! :) (Hello Herbal Essence?) I'd argue that the worst in ads actually happens in video games, and I shouldn't forget about the Photoshop mania in magazines... Still, knowing that there's worse elsewhere isn't much of an argument, is it?

licker: The ads do show up on the Shrapnel site and elsewhere, but they seem to be less prominent now. I've just seen a new ad when posting a reply (this one here, which seems a bit softer if you ask me... I still wouldn't bother finding out about the game if I knew nothing else about it.

NTJedi December 18th, 2008 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KissBlade (Post 659979)
Haha, when all else fails, turn to sex appeal???

What Dom3 ad? The current one is not that great.

Soyweiser December 18th, 2008 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KissBlade (Post 659979)
Haha, when all else fails, turn to sex appeal???

What Dom3 ad? The current one is not that great.

I'm going to answer your question, and my question. :)

this one:

JimMorrison December 18th, 2008 04:31 PM

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I don't understand the complaints. >.>

I mean, it is an ad for the chair, right.....?


I'm confused by some of the comments around here..... It's hard for me to see how someone who likes women would not find her attractive. Granted, doesn't look compatible with me and my strategy gaming lifestyle, but my body doesn't care about that, and neither does hers. :p

But, they should have done the responsible thing, and found a model to slap some thick-framed glasses and some sweats on, with no makeup. And then I could say, "awwww, I want to play Dominions 3 with HER!".


I dunno, just seems the demographics are a bit off on the current campaign - and I'm not entirely sure who the target audience of the ads actually is. They may get a lot of clicks, but are those people interested in Dominions at all? I'm not sure anyone has yet stated in Welcome! thread that they "followed the ad with the hot chick and ended up here", which I would think would be a better yardstick for success of the ad. ;)

Gandalf Parker December 18th, 2008 05:22 PM

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Im sorry to say that the effectiveness of such ads is well proven. Even if they dont mention the product, they are memorable (as we see here). Even bad ads can be effective for being memorable (as proven on tv). And any click thru can increase sales (as shown by spam reports even when the spam sent does not mention the product).

Yes that sucks but I dont think that all of these different market moguls in many different media are all deluding themselves. Unfortuntely.

sector24 December 18th, 2008 07:45 PM

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I didn't know that Elisha Cuthbert's evil twin was a strategy gamer.

Zeldor December 18th, 2008 10:35 PM

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I thought that Elisha was the evil one. At least in 24 she is.

Loren December 19th, 2008 12:44 AM

Re: Wow that Dominions 3 Ad is hot!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sum1lost (Post 660839)
I for one appreciate the incorporation of maenads, succubi, oreiads and the like into advertisements. Also, I'm really not sure how these things are worse than any other advertisement that uses sex (read- most do). Or how using it in an advertisement is wrong somehow. It isn't like it says that if you buy dominions, beautiful men/women will want to sleep with you. Honestly, I've seen worse in advertisements for personal hygeine products, food, and furniture.

Alright, what ad are you talking about? I haven't seen any that look like that, just a hot girl saying she wants her Dominions 3.

vfb December 19th, 2008 01:13 AM

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I think he may be talking about the "Incubus" ad actually:

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...inions/ron.jpg

JimMorrison December 19th, 2008 01:30 AM

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I am scarred.

Klepto December 19th, 2008 01:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sum1lost (Post 660839)
I'm really not sure how these things are worse than any other advertisement that uses sex (read- most do).

A fun game I play with TV ads is to figure out which of the seven deadly sins they are promoting in order to sell their snake oil. I agree that lust is very popular, but I don't think it's quite passed the 50% mark yet. Vanity, avarice and envy are also well represented.

MaxWilson December 19th, 2008 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by vfb (Post 661107)
I think he may be talking about the "Incubus" ad actually:

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...inions/ron.jpg

Hey, that guy looks kind of like Steven Brust!

-Max

Soyweiser December 19th, 2008 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by vfb (Post 661107)
I think he may be talking about the "Incubus" ad actually:

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...inions/ron.jpg

Even Mario wants dom 4!

archaeolept December 19th, 2008 01:08 PM

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heh, that's a great ad VFB :)

I don't think the dominions sex ads are objectionable, just dumb. I doubt that the "clickthroughs" they generate lead to any sort of corresponding increase in sales for shrapnel. They are off the mark for the intended audience. Vfb's ad, otoh, is witty and self-deprecating. I'd buy that for a dollar!

MaxWilson December 19th, 2008 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Soyweiser (Post 661134)
Even Mario wants dom 4!

Who is Mario? The plumber? Or the assassin? Someone else?

-Max


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