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I've been itching to try some multiplayer, so I've decided to start up a game for fellow newbie players.

Game Details:
Age: Early
Map: Aran
Host: 24hr quickhost, LlamaServer
Number of players: 8 - either 8 lands nations, or 7 land and 1 water
Mods: none
Settings: all standard
Diplomacy: anything goes

It's my first time hosting (or playing) an mp game, but I think I have everything figured out, so don't be afraid to join :)
Nation choice is first come, first serve. I'm hoping to start the game shortly after the new year.

Nations:
1.GrudgeBringer - Arcosephale
2.Alpine Joe - Kailasa
3.Ossa - Abyssia
4.Juffos - Ermor
5.jmb - T'ien Ch'i
6.Redeyes - Caelum
7.statttis - C'tis
8.Slobby - Oceania

Game is running.

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I'll Take Arco....I have played in 5 games

I have lasted 18 turns in my first game

I lasted 19 in my last one.

LOL, I understand the mechanics but just don't understand the game.:doh:

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I'm in as Kailasa. I am in the middle of my first multiplayer game right now, i think that makes me inexperienced enough.

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Question...

In Diplomacy when you state anything goes, are you stating that we are playing a game where you make and break alliances, Naps, or any other agreement at will.

AND, there are no 'Honor' reprecussions or angry rants.

Just want to make it clear so we don't have a problem later.

With us all being pretty new, its best to spell it out in no uncetain terms as we all come from some strategy backgrounds and all have a different outlook on agreements.

Also, NO mods is fine...but agian as we are all new the CBM will kind of help if someone makes a bad choice and also not let a powerful nation run all over someone (LOL, Like me) and give them a bad taste for MP.

Agian, its just a thought and any setup is fine with me.

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Yes, thats what I mean :). I'm hoping that people will honor alliances and so on, but as the manual says "There can only be one."


I didn't want mods because it's a newbie game, and myself and possibly others are still learning the original game. I think adding mods will actually make it more likely for players to make bad choices.
If there's popular demand, we could restict the strongest nations like Niefelheim so nobody gets run over.

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NP, whatever you want to setup is ok with me.

I'm not sure if I DID pick a powerful nation I would kmow what to do with it!!

Does Aran have preset starting positions? I have never played that map (Actually I have not played many maps as I havn't played much SP either) I just am on here listening and posting a lot (asking questions mostly).

Last thing and i'll be quiet...make sure everyone knows to not have any Mods enabled and have the 3.21 Patch ( I went thru that nightmare in my last game).

And are we doing 24 hour quickhost turns (so whenever everyone gets there turn in it automatically sends out the next turn) or are they preset. I only ask so that I will check my Computer more often if its quickhost.

Game on Gentlemen!!!:eek:

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Turns are quickhost, starting at 24hrs. Later into the game I might increase to 48hrs or something if needed.

I don't know if Aran has set starting positions, is there some way to check?

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I'd like to try Abyssia - never played them much.

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I just tried 4 practice starts with Aran...

1 time I was on a peninsula and had only 2 Provinces around my starting Fortress.

1 time I had 3 Provinces and started VERY close to another faction.

1 time I had 6 starting provinces and no one around me (LOL, wish I could warp that starting position into our game for me).

1 time I had the usual 4 provinces and was in a ok position.

So, I would say NO the positions are not fixed,

Agian, its your game and you set the rules. As I see it you can do any of 3 things.

Start the game and if someone is really screwed you can restart until everyone is ok with thier positions.

Start the game and you get what you get..no whining and no quitting. Just try and make do (sometimes its not much fun if you only have 2 provinces and your cut off and have no army to fight) but usually only 1 has a terrible start.

Ask some of the guys that know and see if you can place nations in starting positions. Or perhaps change the map to one thats about the same size but has starting positions.

I am not the one to ask about maps but ask some of the higher ranks and they would be able help you.

AGIAN, its YOUR game and your preference's so I am in for whatever you decide.:up:

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It's actually really easy to set starting locations up, but you'd probably want to save the map under a slightly different name so you aren't overwriting everyone's copies of Aran.

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I'm guessing that the solution would be to mark all but 8 of the provinces as no-start, then save the map under a new name. Once I know whether anybody wants to play as a water nation, I can do that.

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That would be the least complicated way to do it.

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Sounds good to me....

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I have already some experience under my belt, but I am still itching for some hot online action.

I would like to join as Ermor. It hasn't won any games to the date (at least by the hall of fame), so it should maybe balance a bit.

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Can I join as Tien Chi please?

And btw, statttis aren't you participating too? You haven't put yourself in the list ;)

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Hallelujah
A game for I, a newcomer to the sphere of Dominions

May I join as Caelum? :angel

I would expect any treaty that's publicly stated to be faithfully upheld.
Less than that and I hope backstabbing is on everyones' agenda ;)

Most people like action, I'm one of those.

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Redeyes,

From my understanding...anything goes means anything goes.

I asked that (see previous post on here) exact question because I know people have different ideas about agreements.

So I would be prepared to be backstabbed.....and if you are you must remember there are no 'Honor' reprecussions or anger expected.

ANYWAY, thats the way I read it and the Admin explained it.

I always keep my agreements to a fault in normal games...but there are a number of games that declare early that treaties are NOT binding.:eek:

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I'll be the lizards of C'tis. I knew I forgot something :re:

When I say anything goes that doesn't mean I want to encourage backstabbing, in fact I'd prefer it if allies are faithful. But there are no rules against breaking treaties. I like action :)

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I do have some experience (like juffos I've never won a game yet tho), if that's ok then I'd like to sign up for Oceania.

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I think you are setting yourself up for a headache.

If you want treaties to be honored then have them registered in the forum and stipulate that.

They can be regulated and if someone breaks one then the rest of the folks in the game can refuse to trade with them or gang up on them or whatever.

IF you DON'T want to make it public (secret agreements are GOOD sometimes) 6then don't be suprised or mad if you are stabbed in the back.

But to say you would like them to be honored but its a war game will pit some folks agianst each other and we will have a 13 page argument likei have seen in some other forums.

OK...I have said what I can, If you want to leave it as it stands I have no problem with it.

Just trying to clarify it because we all are new and friends (and enimies) will be made in the first few games.:D

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I'm probably spreading myself out too thin, but I'll play as tir na n'og if you don't mind. I've got lots of sp experience but I'm still an mp noob. And I don't have a very thorough TNN strategy :)

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Sorry rdonj it looks like the game is full :(

GrudgeBriner, when I say that I hope treaties will be honored, I just want to encourage good sportmanship - treaties/alliances shoudn't be completely meaningless. No complaints if they are broken though, that's part of the game.

Before I set up the game I'd like some opinions on the starting positions. I can make a version with fixed positions or just leave it as is (random). I'm fine with either, but if anybody really prefers one or the other I'd like to know.

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Hey, it is. Last I checked there were only 4 people listed as signed up. That's alright, probably better for my sanity that I'm not playing 4 games simultaneously.

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That makes it as clear as can be expected in respect to traties, Naps, ect.

My vote would be for set strating positions.

As I said in an earlier post, I played a number of test starts and they where all over the place in relation to Provinces around the Capitol closeness to opponents ect.

But the other side is NO ONE knows where anyone is if we do it random.

I'll go with either way you guys decide:)

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Sorry about the spelling...I HAVE to start proof reading my posts:doh:

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Does anybody know how to edit the title? I can edit the post but there doesn't seem to be an option to change the title.

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I played in a game (very shortly as it turned out) called Buggy.

We had some kind of deal at the start that we had to change the name...

It was changed to Buggy1.

I am NO computer Guru, but do you think if you set up a game called Nightfall 2 and had all the setting positions set up we could join that?

I really don't recall what we did but it DID work.

Hope this gives you some idea...:confused:

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I think changing the map name to Aran1 should work. The problem is I don't know how to change the title of the forum post, now that the game is full :doh:

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Are you sure you have to change the Forum post?

Isn't it only important that where we send our turns to llamaserver is correctly named?

Now remember, I havn't got a clue about computers or admining a game.

Just a thought...

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When you go to edit the post, look beneath the text field and right next to the save button there should be a "go advanced" button. If you click on that it will let you change the title.

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If there is a slot open still, I would like to join

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These are some possible starting positions. I tried to make them balanced, let me know what you think.

http://i39.tinypic.com/2u5f8r7.jpg

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Well placed start positions, considering the map's unfairness. Hopefully I won't be the one starting in that top right corner location without nearby forests or mountains :)

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Statttis, have you checked your Privite messages?

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That Aran map looks good to me, although I agree top right might be a little tricky

looking forward to a solid game, even if we are noobs

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After some helpful suggestions, I've moved some of the starting positions a little bit. I think the starts are spaced out better now, and nearby provinces should be balanced - now every player borders some money and resource provinces. The player in the upper right should be fine, now that he borders a mountain province.

The game is up on LlamaServer and ready to accept pretenders.

The map we'll be using:

http://i39.tinypic.com/nwinlu.jpg

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Good Job...looks like its the best this map can offer...

This was a tough job with this map, but we will all come out better prepared when we have an easier map!!

Good Luck to all and take it easy on Arco until after turn 19 so I can set a record!!!:D

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I assume Nightfall is the name of the game we send the pretenders to?:confused:

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Arco's pretender was accepted under the name Nightfall

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Yes, Nightfall is the name of the game. I'll make a note of that on the first post.

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The new starting locations look great. The two leftmost non-water starts have 6 adjacent provinces unlike the others but things are probably as fair as they can get now.
So I am supposed to a pretender now, how do I do that?

Do we have a tentative start date perhaps?
Any day soon is good for me ;)

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There are instructions here http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=35160

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Thank you slobby.
I will submit a pretender tomorrow evening when I have figured pretendermolding and its pitfalls out :doh:

Is everyone else reaching the stage "readiness"?

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You can go to www.llamaserver.net look for the name of the game you want Click on it and it will give you the info on that game.

Like, who has sent thier Pretender in, turns in, when a turn is due, ect.

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Once Ossa and Redeyes submit pretenders we're ready to go.

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Just submitted my pretender, I imagine you'll be able to see it on llamaserver soon

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The other GreatNooby thread on the frontpage told me Ossa would be on vacation until the fourth, fyi

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And the game is on! GL & HF!

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That was a quick first turn :shock:

Good luck everyone.

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By the looks of it, this one might be just as quick!
At least Caelum wants to test its wings outside the nest...
And to see whom I share that close border with :rolleyes: