Polish OOB question
 

In the Polish 1939 OOB under the various airstrikes are planes armed with Myszka bombs which are listed as cluster bomb types. My question is can anyone provide me with a link to some more information on this weapon? In game terms it seems fairly effective.

I have found a link on the Polish version of wikipedia that I think is about this weapon...

http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myszka_lotnicza_nr_2

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When they were put in I was provided with a Polish site giving info but that was lost with a HD crash a year ago

That wiki article translates ( badly ) to

Air Mouse 2 - German bomb debris wagomiaru 1 kg. Large quantities of these bombs zdobyto to calm at the time of the creation of Wielkopolska Poznan Ławica airport and were then used by the Polish air force. Myszka No. 2 airline had cylindrical shell filled with spherical bottom lanym trotyl or pikrynowym acid. In the top of the screw was a bomb detonator and weighing 0.37 kg protected tab (zawleczki were manually removed prior to take-off aircraft). Bomba was transferred in the form of cassettes bombowych box. In the second half of the 30 Air Mouse 2 has been replaced by the built in mouse wz. 34.

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From my little ability to read Polish on basis of its similarity to Czech, it seems it was originally a WWI German frag bomblet dispenser or cluster bomb, upgraded later by Poland.

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Here's a further badly machine translated explanation of the weapon. Ten 1 kg bombs per "package" and it looks like 12 "packages" were carried but IDK for certain. If Blazej Ciepluch sees this perhaps he can dig up the polish sites he provided me with a couple years back. It *may* be this was either only used in very small numbers or never made it to production at all but it's a moot point really as there weren't many aircraft capable of carrying them after the first few days

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Try this

http://www.wojsko18-39.internetdsl.p...bombylotn.html

or do a google search with

"T wz. 34"

and you find that website and be able to translate

Don

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Thanks for the information. Seems like a similar concept to the 'Molotov Breadbasket' type bomb that Russia used in Finland. I played a test game against Germany last night as Poland and gave myself 4 flights. En masse those bombs are fairly effective especially against trucks and the like. Alot better than those 25kg fire crackers that are carried by other planes at the time.

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Polish AT-Rifle "7.92 kb.Ur.wz35" is available incorrectly as AT-Team since January 1930, and to infantry squads since 1936.
The batch production started in 1938 and it was a secret until July 1939, when it was distributed.
Regarding the name "7.92 kb.Ur wz35" is much better, as "Ur" is not an abbreviation and doesn't need a dot, (or even better "kb. wz.35 Ur").

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I've put this on the list to check. Some weapons ( and vehicles )were pushed back to 1930 when we expanded the OOB's years ago that should not have been and we have fixed most of them but some have slipped through.

Are you aware of any other ATR's that may have been used before this weapon ?

Thanks

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Great.

I was also curious of that, and I'm sure there was no official AT-Rifle prior to Ur.
In AT role there was in use a 37mm AT-Gun licensed from Bofors.

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OK, thanks

Don

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There's a problem with "Vickers Tk Sec" in September '39. It has no available tank to buy at that point.
That's because Poland has many incarnation of "Vickers E Mk.A" for different periods (units 638 - 642), and platoon and company formations have 2 incarnations each (formation 384 - 387) for two periods '30.01 - '33.12 and '34.01 - '39.9, while the Section has only one (formation 373), for the whole period of '30.01 - '39.10.

Additionally "Vickers E Mk.A", unit 638 seems not to be assigned to Poland in the Nation field.

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Can you explain me what's the point of having a basic rifle in a slot different then 1, like the Polish unit 284, as it's not multiplied by the number of men? I understand that everybody took their time with a rifle during shooting of slot 1.

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Point one has been entered onto the list and will be looked into when I start reviewing the OOB's

Point two, the short answer is there was a time in the past when other people worked on the OOB's and felt the need to fill up every weapon slot with something.

In the big scheme of things the effect on the game is negligible and we've left units like that alone


Don

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Thanks, that answers also why I could see a pistol in weapon slot 4 of a regular infantry squad.

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I'd thought we'd fixed all of those. Obviously not, maybe it was MBT, IDK it's had to keep track of everything done across two games and 120+ OOB's but I've made another note to check for those again.

The reason for 373 has no units in the game is because unit 638 is re-nationalized to nation 99 BECAUSE it's a duplicate of U-449 and once 449 is entered as the placeholder in f-373 instead of u-638 ( and f-384, 385 and 386 ) the "problem" will go away.

What I will be sorting out later in the year is why our automatic checks missed that ( and no doubt some others as well )

Don