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Torin February 4th, 2009 04:21 PM

Procyon - One age - Started!
 
Im planning a new game using the one Age Mod
So every nation is eligible.

Settings:
All standard except
HOF 15
Ren on

Mods:
Streamers & Standards
One Age Mod
Maybe the mod that ban Arcane Nexus if we are too many and if we agree.
Server
Llamaserver PBEM
Instructions on Llamaserver
Map
Random, depends on the amount of players
Procyon map
Hosting
Quickhost 24hs till turn 20 then 48 hs, and later upon disussion if more is needed.
Victory
Conquer the map, or get all others concede
Diplomacy
Treaties are private & exclusive inside the signers.
An other option is to make it public in the thread when it's signed to avoid future discussions if theres a pact-break you have some record.

Players
MA Acrocephale - analytic_kernel
EA Sauromatia - PsiSoldier
EA Niefel - Ossa
LA Pythium - Torin
LA Ermor - Jazzepi
LA Ulm - GC64

(please no stales and/or quitting without notice)

analytic_kernel February 4th, 2009 06:30 PM

Re: Procyon - New Game in one age (Recruiting)
 
I'd like in as MA Arco, please.

PsiSoldier February 4th, 2009 07:55 PM

Re: Procyon - New Game in one age (Recruiting)
 
How about EA Sauromatia

Torin February 7th, 2009 07:34 AM

Re: Procyon - New Game in one age (Recruiting)
 
I think we need at least 5 players to start it

Jazzepi February 7th, 2009 11:14 AM

Re: Procyon - New Game in one age (Recruiting)
 
I'd be interested if it were CBM 1.4

Thoughts?

Jazzepi

Starshine_Monarch February 7th, 2009 11:19 AM

Re: Procyon - New Game in one age (Recruiting)
 
I haven't played Vanilla in a while, but I'm good with either CBM or Vanilla.

I'm about to get KO'd from Madness anyway I think, so I'll take LA Atlantis if we're Vanilla. LA Ulm if we're CBM.

Torin February 7th, 2009 01:41 PM

Re: Procyon - New Game in one age (Recruiting)
 
I don't know really all the changes in CBM. Probably too lazy to study them now.

Ossa February 7th, 2009 04:44 PM

Re: Procyon - New Game in one age (Recruiting)
 
I'd like to give it a try with EA Niefel

Torin February 8th, 2009 01:11 PM

Re: Procyon - New Game in one age (Recruiting)
 
Map uploaded, Game created.

Upload pretenders!

Torin February 8th, 2009 01:27 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Upload pretenders!
 
something went wrong. The server don't accept my pretender. says: your pretender is in the wrong age.
I wonder if the one age mod in the server is the same as the one in the link here.

I sent a message to llamabeast but it doesnt appear on the sent items (???)

archaeolept February 8th, 2009 01:34 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Upload pretenders!
 
i think you just need to rename it to whatever llamaserver calls it

Torin February 8th, 2009 01:38 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Upload pretenders!
 
rename it to what?

Jazzepi February 8th, 2009 01:41 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Upload pretenders!
 
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showt...=41895&page=17

I think Madness might have had the same problem. This may fix it.

"Make a copy of your SingleAgeComplete.dm and rename it to "Single Age mod.dm". It is llamaserver problem with multiage games. We had to do the same for Preponderance."

By the way, I didn't realize this game was going to be so small. Do you guys have room for one more?

Also, I think you have to have the single age mod on when you create your pretender, since it moves all the races to a single age (MA I think).

Jazzepi

Torin February 8th, 2009 01:49 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Llamaserver Glitch?
 
Added one slot, now its tighter but not that much

Torin February 8th, 2009 01:51 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Llamaserver Glitch?
 
It does not fix it. Still the same message...

archaeolept February 8th, 2009 02:07 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Llamaserver Glitch?
 
you didn't rename it correctly :)

Torin February 8th, 2009 02:10 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Llamaserver Glitch?
 
Single Age mod.dm

JimMorrison February 8th, 2009 02:14 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Llamaserver Glitch?
 
The Single Age problem only manifests when the game starts, and you try to load your first turn.

The pretender file doesn't say what mods were used, it just has numbers, and they have to match up with what the server is expecting.

Best guess is that you forgot to enable the mod when you created your pretender. <3

Jazzepi February 8th, 2009 02:18 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Llamaserver Glitch?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JimMorrison (Post 673156)
The Single Age problem only manifests when the game starts, and you try to load your first turn.

The pretender file doesn't say what mods were used, it just has numbers, and they have to match up with what the server is expecting.

Best guess is that you forgot to enable the mod when you created your pretender. <3

I agree. I would turn on the mod, and recreate your pretender.

Jazzepi

Torin February 8th, 2009 02:20 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Llamaserver Glitch?
 
Well, no I didnt forget that, in fact my pretender was created in middle age.

But tried to upload the mod on the forum SingleAgeComplete.dm and llamaserver said it was already there...
So can I assume that the dom that llamaserver calls Single Age Complete is that same mod??

archaeolept February 8th, 2009 02:28 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Llamaserver Glitch?
 
don't re-upload the mod. recreate your pretender and upload it.

Torin February 8th, 2009 02:31 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Llamaserver Glitch?
 
I said ive done that already.......
ill wait & see if starshine monarch has the same problem than me

Jazzepi February 8th, 2009 03:07 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Llamaserver Glitch?
 
I think I found the problem.

http://www.llamaserver.net/admin.cgi?game=Madness

Look at Madness, it's running "Single Age Mod" but Procyon is running "Single Age Complete".

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Procyon

I think you need to remove the single age complete and put in single age mod.

Also, I got the same error you did when trying to submit.

Jazzepi

Torin February 8th, 2009 03:43 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Llamaserver Glitch?
 
yes, the mod in madness is the one in the forums, but I cannot choose it because it's not in llamaserver anymore(?)
I cannot upload it either because it says it's already uploaded.
dead end?

archaeolept February 8th, 2009 04:05 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Llamaserver Glitch?
 
pls read jazzepi's post.

use the correct single age mod for llamaserver as per Jazzepi's post.

submit created pretender.

I understand the single age complete thing for llamaserver is confusing, but just try what jazzepi said.

Torin February 8th, 2009 05:49 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Llamaserver Glitch?
 
I think you are not the one not understanding. Theres only ONE option at llamaserver. So there's no option to choose from.

analytic_kernel February 8th, 2009 06:47 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Llamaserver Glitch?
 
My pretender has been accepted.

I followed the advice to rename "SingleAgeComplete.dm" to "Single Age mod.dm".

Starshine_Monarch February 8th, 2009 07:42 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Llamaserver Glitch?
 
My pretender is for the wrong age. Since the Single Age mod lumps them all into the Middle Age though, I wonder if we really are just using the wrong pretenders? In Madness I used MA Bandar log, so I didn't have any problems. It's probably the same situation for us.

Madness seemed to go off without too much trouble. We could just ask some of the EA and LA players from Madness what they did.

JimMorrison February 8th, 2009 08:21 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Llamaserver Glitch?
 
You used to be able to select Single Age either from the mod list, or by checking it as one of the predefined settings for the game.

Llama had 2 versions of the identical mod, one method used the one with one name, the other used the other name. There was no functional difference.

Apparently he has gotten around to fixing it - it is not a problem, it's a good thing.

I've played in several Single Age games, that's part of why I am trying to help here. <3

(EDIT - oh yeah, also your pretender will be flagged for the appropriate age, so as just make sure it is the last pretender that you made for that nation - you can rename them I think, to set them apart, as long as you keep the era/nation part, I -think- the number after that can be anything, but I would test it before submitting)

analytic_kernel February 8th, 2009 10:32 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Llamaserver Glitch?
 
2 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Starshine_Monarch (Post 673233)
My pretender is for the wrong age. Since the Single Age mod lumps them all into the Middle Age though, I wonder if we really are just using the wrong pretenders?

Could well be - though if the mod is active, the other two ages are grayed out:
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attac...1&d=1234146016


And, the middle age lists nations of all ages:
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attac...1&d=1234146054


If someone is trying to use a pretender not made with this mod active, then I think that will cause problems, because the era number would be wrong (assuming era is stored in the .2h file):

Code:

#selectnation 0
#name "EA Arcoscephale"
#era 2

The above from the mod. It shifts the eras for the nations. EA is era 1. MA is era 2.

Torin February 8th, 2009 11:57 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Llamaserver Glitch?
 
You didn't have any problem because MA Acrocephale IS from MA. Unless Llamabeast puts the right mod in we can't use any nations but MA in "Single Age".
We all made our pretenders using the mods. Only that there's a problem with llamaserver.

JimMorrison February 9th, 2009 12:16 AM

Re: Procyon - One age - Llamaserver Glitch?
 
Make sure that the game is not set to automatically start (you have time, as there are other pretenders not in). I am going to submit an LA Pythium pretender, and see if the server will accept it. Don't worry, if you submit a new one, it will always overwrite the old one.

JimMorrison February 9th, 2009 12:41 AM

Re: Procyon - One age - Llamaserver Glitch?
 
I have confirmed that you are not insane. :P

Your pretender is for the wrong age‏
From: ---@llamaserver (---@llamaserver)
Sent: Mon 2/09/09 4:40 AM

archaeolept February 9th, 2009 01:06 AM

Re: Procyon - One age - Llamaserver Glitch?
 
as Jim pointed out, there are two ways when creating a game on llamaserver to try and make it single-age.

the first is to chose "multi-age" under game settings.
the second would be to chose "single age complete" under General mods.

Whichever one you did in creating this game, try the other and recreate.

If you chose both, try w/ only one (game settings, I should think)

also, rename your mod as llama wishes it when trying any of this.

Torin February 9th, 2009 09:28 AM

Re: Procyon - One age - Llamaserver Glitch?
 
mmm it was already multiage enabled by default. Odd, I dont know what this option is for then.

Torin February 9th, 2009 10:07 AM

Re: Procyon - One age - Llamaserver Glitch?
 
Looks that someone altered the procyon game and it was not me. Now it has the other Single Age mod set. And there's not that ot the other mod in the mod list.
Probably now it has changed to multi age switch instead by llama?
I think it might work that way.
If someone can submit pretender now to try out or else I gonna do that from home.

Starshine_Monarch February 9th, 2009 11:24 AM

Re: Procyon - One age - Llamaserver Glitch?
 
Seems to work now. My LA Atlantis pretender has been accepted.

Torin February 9th, 2009 04:17 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Llamaserver Glitch?
 
Yep I received a message from llamabeast. the way to use multiage is:

Don't choose the Single age mod or any mod for that purpose and instead choose Multiage in the "choose era" option while creating the game. That will automatically load the Single age mod. As archaeolept guessed.


Still Jazzepi to join in. ill pm him

Jazzepi February 9th, 2009 05:20 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Upload pretenders!
 
Okay, I submitted.

Ermor.

Jazzepi

Torin February 10th, 2009 01:08 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Upload pretenders!
 
Only Ossa/Niefelheim to upload...

Torin February 11th, 2009 11:36 AM

Re: Procyon - One age - Upload pretenders!
 
Should we wait or start the game at 5 players?

Jazzepi February 11th, 2009 02:45 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Upload pretenders!
 
I would PM him, and give him like 24 hours.

Jazzepi

Torin February 11th, 2009 04:14 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Upload pretenders!
 
well i did that...

Jazzepi February 11th, 2009 04:30 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Upload pretenders!
 
Well if it's been a generous amount of time, then you can either look for a sub, or just start.

Jazzepi

analytic_kernel February 11th, 2009 04:36 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Upload pretenders!
 
I counted 7 water provinces, which leaves 68 land provinces to be divided up by 4 land players, an average of 17 per player. While that makes a land player like me happy, I'm not sure if that's good for the water player.

I'm not in any hurry to start this game, if you want to recruit someone else. But, of course, I have no objections to starting now either.

Ossa February 12th, 2009 02:48 AM

Re: Procyon - One age - Upload pretenders! (1 more player)
 
Arrrrr... sorry, I will reappear right now.

Torin February 12th, 2009 07:23 AM

Re: Procyon - One age - Game Started!
 
Game Started, First turn long wait and after that 24 hs

Torin February 12th, 2009 04:30 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Game Started!
 
Psi soldier used the wrong mod while creating the pretender. I don't know what changes the game might did to him.

Do we need to restart to waiting pretenders?

Torin February 12th, 2009 09:05 PM

Re: Procyon - One age - Game Started!
 
Game reseted. Resend pretenders.
But make sure you are using the mods while you create your pretender.

oops the game doesnt accept the admin password...

llamabeast February 13th, 2009 07:00 AM

Re: Procyon - One age - Resend pretenders!
 
Oops, please ignore all the false "Procyon started" messages. It turns out there is a glitch with restarting multi-age games, which I will look into. Anyway, I've un-started the game now, and presumably Torin will start it again properly once Psi-soldier has resent his pretender.


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