Ulmish Civil Wars - All Ulm all of the time...
 

Era: Late
Map: King of the Hill (50 vp). http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=35876
Mods: cCBM
Ulmish Civil War
llamachris banners.
Victory: 3 capitals held 3 turns, or 50 vp.



Rules: Each faction will be named after an Ulmish count (aka Player).
A. *no diplomacy game*. Purely mano-a-mano, no holds bared vampiric fury. Ie., please no coordinating with other players, no trading. This is a game to test the might of your ideas, not the suaveness of your social skills =)
B. No fort on VP province.


Ok. Things I didn't do: I didn't restrict pretenders. And I gave ulm a 25% production bonus - can some one tell me what the LA-Ulm bonus is?

Also, you are going to have to rename the mods to whatever llama requires.



Nation:
BlackChris (LA-Ulm): Chris Pedersen
CountVonTolkien (LA-Ulm): Tolkien
SteurmMithras (LA-Ulm): Mithras
Count Szendrey (LA-Ulm): JimMorrison
PrinceLaveare (LA-Ulm): Laveare
AdjuctantDedas (LA-Ulm): Dedas (Pending..... )

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Oooh a slightly strange game.. sign me up. That is if you don't mind having someone who's likely to get beaten fairly quick...
Ooh and I would have thought a bit of diplomatic manuevering would be thematic, but hey its your game and I'm happy either way.

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I have never even looked at late Ulm....but I love the idea of a low magic tactical game. Let me mess around in SP with it tonight and if you don't fill up I will let you know tomorrow...Thanks

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I am playing LA Ulm in betelgeuse and am in a few games already otherwise I would join in; I love the idea.

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I'll sign up.

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Grudgebringer - I think you should expect a lot of magic, most especially lots of vampires. LA Ulm is quite different to MA!

Having said that this sounds like a lot of fun. Sadly, llama is busy. :(

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I don't have time to play, but I like the idea. :)

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With the war of the rings looming and my March 7th wedding coming up....I errrrr better pass on this one, although I have wanted to do something like this for a long time.

Hope it gets off the ground and I can play in the next one!!:(

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There's going to be magic everywhere, what with LA Ulm's massive magic diversity.

So yeah. :P

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Count Szendrey rises to the challenge

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Two more to begin.. Dedas?

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I'd play if your still looking as I'm an avid vampire fan

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Ha ha ha! Sign me up then. :)

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Are we playing CBM or vanilla. I´d prefer CBM.

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Forgot about that, I don't play the current CBM, as I don't agree with the choices made.

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Oh, which would those be?

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Giving pikes more damage and attack was the most recent one I discussed. Do a search if you want to read up on it.

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Dedas, I don't think thats an issue in late age - my remembrance is it was ea/ma. As I recall, pikemen have attack 10 in LA

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I'm talking about the weapon pike. CBM changes pikes to attack 2 and damage 6 instead of attack 1 and damage 5. LA Ulm pikeneers has pikes making them boringly cost effective over other LA Ulm infantry. But that is just one minor issue have with the current CBM.

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I´m going to have to back out of this. Sorry for the hassle.

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Sorry to hear that ... (really sorry after making the mod =))

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I'm sorry to hear that. The pike change is certainly not one I'm particularly attached to- you have certainly presented a convincing argument that something needs to be done, either scaling back the change or adjusting other weapons. I was under the impression most the recent cb changes were pretty uncontroversial, so if you have other issues please bring them up in the cb thread. Even if I don't respond immediately, I always go over the thread carefully before releasing a new version.

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Qm,

I have an idea which I have been thinking about incorporating into my version of cbm; perhaps you'd like to consider it.

Here are three options I have been considering:

1. Make the attack armor negating/armor piercing. I tend more toward the former.
2. Giving pikes a first strike bonus, like the lance.
2. Giving pikes the weapons an add on attack, that is a one time thing, something like what a net gets.

What would make the most sense would be a one time effect that was AoE/AN - but not a lot of damaage.

This would work best against heavily armored targets - just like pikes traditionally were used for.

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All of those look pretty extreme, I think I'd probably rather leave them as base than something with such a huge impact.

One thing though, all the CB versions are confusing people quite a lot, so I'd appreciate it if you called any tangential mods by some unrelated name (though whatever part of CB you wish to use you are welcome too).

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You'd make pikemen's over rangers, shields and zweihanders...? Really...?

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C'mon Kiss - Join the game
Kitchen Stadium. We really need one more...

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had a little test and we don't get the Ulm vamp spell. was that intended

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Nope it was not intended = )
I had to create the whole nations manually, so I will fix that before we start the game.

Also, does anyone know if LA ulm has a production bonus and if so how much>?

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Ok, the spell sanguine heritage has been copied for each nation, with someone along the name of ...

BlackChris' Taking
Prince Lavere's Taking.

Please give it a try. Also - if you could try a practice setup where you take another count's capitol - I want to see if you can build ghouls, templars etc., ie., if I have to make the magic sites unique.

I hope not, but I"m not sure.

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No need to practice for that, I wasn't able to use them in the game I played before

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Great, Thank you!

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Game is started. Please submit Pretenders.

You will need to download the mods from the zip file at the first post, to get the flags, as llama gives no provision for zips or tga's.

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its says chrispedersen CBM but I can't find it. and no link on LlamaServer

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Everything needed (as far as I know) is attached to the first post.

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huh, who sent in Ulm instead of one of the custom Ulm nations

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Wish there was a way to tell. Anyway 4 in so far.. I have to go kid Jim to get his in.

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That was Tolkien.

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That was odd. I'll be resubmitting the pretender I suppose.

Llama, can you do me a favor and delete the Ulm file?

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Hey guys see if you can get two more people,or would you rather start as is?

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Seems like an interesting idea. I'll look forward to reading your thread as the game develops

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Why not join Iron - I'll change the name of the faction to
RedIron - you're actually probably a more skilled player than the rest of us.. Ok.. I'll say.. than me = ).

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Well the map looked more 4 person then 6 person. So I have problem if its start now or wait some more

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Nah I've already got a game ramping up now. Thanks tho

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One vote for start... If I don't hear from anyone by tommorrow, start it is, Prince Lavere..

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I'm having some problems with the mod. While cCBM is clearly in the mod folder along with all the other mods I use the game claims I haven't got it installed.

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Check the actual name; when there is an error message it will tell you "xxx" not installed.

Rename the ccbm.dm to xxx.dm - and it should solve your problem. The module was renamed on Llama's server to avoid confusion.

On separate matters - I was called out of town suddenly, I brought the cd to install, so I may be able to get my turns in on time; otherwise there will be a slight delay.

Let me know if you need more time to resolve this matter.
Best,

Chris

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yeah was kinda annoying, until I realised I just needed to take complete out of the mods name

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Error!

Turns out we should have tested more. When Laveare asked about Sanguine Heritage - I added it. I should have looked to see if there were more. There are. 4 More to be precise which I should have caught.

Attached is the corrected ulm.dm.

Game is paused until llama can unload and load new version. In the meantime.. please all check and make sure you have ALL ulmish spells. 5 in total

The current file only replaces the .dm - thanks.

Sorry .. and best wishes.

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Guess I should of looked to see if there were others. Never really used anything but Sanguine and Construction before.

:) And I had finally gotten first strike by taking one of Chris regions.

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yah, I'm fairly careless.

Not to worry - llama has updated the website, so as soon as everyone confirms that they have patched and all is fine, we can continue.

Or maybe I'll just start the countdown anyway <eg>