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Baalz February 16th, 2009 12:28 AM

Wild Red - MA game (in progress)
 
Another game brought to you by the llamaserver

Era: MA
Mods: CBM
Settings: everything default with renaming on
Map: picked after we see how many people, ~15 provinces per player
Hosting: 24 hours per turn for the first 12, after that we'll bump up the hosting every time at least 3 people ask for it. Quick host on.

Notes: Its been kind of annoying how many people are dropping out lately, please don't join this game unless you're committed to playing for the next 6 months or at least until you personally line up a substitute player. 'course you might be eliminated a lot sooner than that...

Nations:

Oceana - Baalz
Abysia - Dragar
Atlantis - Incabulos
Caelum - statttis
Shinuyama - Lavaere
TC - DonCorazon
Machaka - Nihil
Phytium - Kim
Bandar - Deadnature
Ermor - paulus
Agartha - fungalreason
R'yleh - GC64
Jotunheim - PAR
Eriu - archaeolept
Arco - Toran
Pangea - Falkor
C'tis - Firewalker
Ulm - paparapapa
Man - Jazzepi

Dragar February 16th, 2009 12:37 AM

Re: Wild Red - MA game (recruiting)
 
Abysia

Incabulos February 16th, 2009 01:03 AM

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I will take Atlantis

statttis February 16th, 2009 02:29 AM

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Caelum for me please.

Lavaere February 16th, 2009 02:51 AM

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Lets try Shinuyama

DonCorazon February 16th, 2009 04:14 AM

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Tien Chi

Nihil February 16th, 2009 04:40 AM

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Machaka please.

KIM February 16th, 2009 04:41 AM

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Phytium for me :up:

Deadnature February 16th, 2009 07:40 AM

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Bandar Log please :)

Baalz February 16th, 2009 10:32 AM

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Map is open for discussion, but assuming we land 18-20 players I was looking at Asia Twist: http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showpost.php?p=649938

Anybody got a strong opinion?

paulus February 16th, 2009 10:35 AM

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I like playin sauromatia.

thanks

Deadnature February 16th, 2009 10:57 AM

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I'm strongly in favor of asia-twist...but of course any ol' map will do

Festin February 16th, 2009 12:28 PM

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I'd like to join as Ulm.

fungalreason February 16th, 2009 01:39 PM

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Agartha please. Also would re-naming of commanders be turned on? I think it's off by default

Baalz February 16th, 2009 01:44 PM

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Ah yes, I intend to put renaming on. Always forget that's off by default.

DonCorazon February 16th, 2009 01:47 PM

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Did i miss something - I dont think Sauromatia is MA

Baalz February 16th, 2009 01:48 PM

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Absolutely right DC, didn't engage my brain when I accepted that. Paulus - please pick a nation from MA.

GC64 February 16th, 2009 03:14 PM

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I'll take R'lyeh.

Radioheart February 16th, 2009 03:32 PM

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Signing in as Man, please.

Festin February 16th, 2009 03:34 PM

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Oops. I'm really sorry, but I won't be able to play this time, due to sudden work overload. Please count me out.

Ossa February 16th, 2009 03:49 PM

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Is there still space for Vanheim?

PAR February 16th, 2009 04:00 PM

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could i join as jotunheim

cheers

archaeolept February 16th, 2009 06:13 PM

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I think my big game is ending... so that would allow me to join a new one :)

hmmm all my favourites are gone... tentatively MA Mict then... give me a chance to actually try out a strat on them.

archaeolept February 16th, 2009 06:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadnature (Post 674740)
I'm strongly in favor of asia-twist...but of course any ol' map will do

Asia Twist is a beautiful map, but I think it needs a revision in order to more balance it out. Still, I wouldn't refuse it.

also, Baalz, no interest in banning the huge end-game globals? I'm a bit tired about how they dominate the game so...

Baalz February 16th, 2009 06:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by archaeolept (Post 674821)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadnature (Post 674740)
I'm strongly in favor of asia-twist...but of course any ol' map will do

Asia Twist is a beautiful map, but I think it needs a revision in order to more balance it out. Still, I wouldn't refuse it.

also, Baalz, no interest in banning the huge end-game globals? I'm a bit tired about how they dominate the game so...

I'm open to it if there's a general consensus, but I don't generally feel like they dominate any more than other end game stuff like tartarians or clam hoarding...

Also open to other map suggestions, my primary motivation is to have roughly 15 provinces per player with an appropriate amount of water for 3 water nations - and me not having to personally tweak it at all. Asia twist is the default at this point until somebody nominates another.

archaeolept February 16th, 2009 07:16 PM

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tarts are more fluid - everyone can go for them to some degree, and wish away the chalice if needed. AN, or BoT, or AC all seriously hamper the normal dynamics of the game, IMO... i'm just tired of dealing with them :)

Baalz February 16th, 2009 07:48 PM

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I don't know, by that stick you start banning a lot of stuff. Forge of the ancients is no less game changing, it's just less in your face obvious. Gift of natures bounty will mean you've got to face three times as many enemies down the line, but it's not immediately killing off your guys so it flies under the radar. Utterdark changes the whole game as does wishing away artifacts or for armageddon.

I tend to feel that really annoying behavior should be met by lots of people kicking the crap out of you in game. :)

Dragar February 16th, 2009 08:11 PM

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I agree, let the market sort out the problems :)

DonCorazon February 16th, 2009 08:28 PM

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You clearly don't live in the U.S! :)

archaeolept February 16th, 2009 08:53 PM

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haha - or in the rest of the world either ;p

Toran February 17th, 2009 07:05 AM

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' won't last for six months :p, but would love to get my hands on Arcoscephale, por favor!

Falkor February 17th, 2009 07:25 AM

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I'd like to join as Pangaea.

Baalz February 17th, 2009 11:12 AM

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Running out of nations Paulus, if you don't speak up I'm going to remove you from the list.

pyg February 17th, 2009 04:50 PM

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I'f the game isn't full already, I'll take Ashdod. I'm probably in over my head here.

I like Asia Twist!

archaeolept February 17th, 2009 04:57 PM

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I'd vote to ban ashdod, though baalz is probably fine w/ it :)

(I know you're new to playing MP, so it wouldn't really be a big deal at all)

pyg February 17th, 2009 05:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by archaeolept (Post 674993)
I'd vote to ban ashdod, though baalz is probably fine w/ it :)

(I know you're new to playing MP, so it wouldn't really be a big deal at all)

Is Ashdod overpowered in CBM as well? I thought the point of CBM was to level the field.

And yes, I am a noob who admits to being intimidated by the idea of playing Baalz in MP.

archaeolept February 17th, 2009 05:06 PM

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yes. we need a united front against the Oceanic menace!

cbm hasn't done much to ashdod.

DonCorazon February 17th, 2009 05:06 PM

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If you are in as Ashdod it just means an immediate alliance will be organized against you and you will be attacked mercilessly. It will grind down all your neighbors and yourself. Whoever did not start next to Ashdod will go onto win the game. Now that I have called it, we can just end this and move on to the next game where hopefully Ashdod is banned :)

paulus February 17th, 2009 05:15 PM

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Sorry,Can play which Ashdod??

DonCorazon February 17th, 2009 05:49 PM

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paulus, I don't know what you mean by "which Ashdod?" there is only one. The nation has different names in different ages eg it is called Gath in LA.

My comment/joke above was in reference to the MA nation Ashdod, which is viewed by many as a powerhouse and is usually ganged up on.

You should pick an MA nation that hasn't been chosen if you still want to play. If you are confused, open up Dominions and create a new game in the Middle Age and see what nations are available - Sauromatia is not one of them.

Baalz February 17th, 2009 06:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by archaeolept (Post 674995)
yes. we need a united front against the Oceanic menace!

cbm hasn't done much to ashdod.

Haha, maybe I should play Ashdod. In the drink with R'yleh and playing the weakest nation in the game and the alliances are already forming.

Dragar February 17th, 2009 06:29 PM

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abysia offers oceania all of its aquatic powers in the fight against rlyeh ;)

Incabulos February 17th, 2009 06:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Baalz (Post 675015)
Quote:

Originally Posted by archaeolept (Post 674995)
yes. we need a united front against the Oceanic menace!

cbm hasn't done much to ashdod.

Haha, maybe I should play Ashdod. In the drink with R'yleh and playing the weakest nation in the game and the alliances are already forming.

I've got a knife in your back Mate.

Baalz February 17th, 2009 07:31 PM

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Alright, we've got 17 nations picked. Lets leave Ashdod out, which leaves:

Ermor, Ulm, Marignon, C'tis, Eriu

I'll leave the game recruiting for another 24 hours or so, or until those are filled. Asia Twist seems popular, the though the floor is open for other nominations until I start the game.

archaeolept February 17th, 2009 07:56 PM

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asia twist has 19 pre-set starting locations. It might be best to have the full complement if we go w/ that map.

also, there are two versions. I think the one w/ ports is preferable.

and standard research for such a large game? In my current asia twist game, it certainly seems like research is too quick. OTOH, i'm down for mictlan, so I have no complaints whichever way.

edit: if there are only 18, and we use asiatwist, i'd suggest killing the borneo start as it is central to the island complex; and I feel that the island starts are _slightly_ inferior.

Dragar February 17th, 2009 08:39 PM

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I vote for no change - already spent a bunch of time on a strat that won't work with diffiuclt!

Baalz February 17th, 2009 09:42 PM

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Normal research, I'll cut it off at 19 which is one more player if paulus wants one of the remaining nations.

GC64 February 17th, 2009 10:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Baalz (Post 675015)
Quote:

Originally Posted by archaeolept (Post 674995)
yes. we need a united front against the Oceanic menace!

cbm hasn't done much to ashdod.

Haha, maybe I should play Ashdod. In the drink with R'yleh and playing the weakest nation in the game and the alliances are already forming.

When considerations of experience are brought to the fore, I hope my Atlantean compatriot as well as any damp surface-dwellers will realize the great relative threat you pose compared to me.

Firewalker February 17th, 2009 10:44 PM

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I'll join in as C'tis if there is still time!

Baalz February 17th, 2009 11:28 PM

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Alright, one slot left. Ermor, Ulm, Marignon, Eriu. First come first served, if you want one speak up Paulus...


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