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Deathstalker September 30th, 2001 11:15 PM

OT-Favorite SE4 Moment!!!
 
Like the topic says, what is your favorite game moment??? This is just for fun..

Mine: Fighting a losing battle in a PBW game (8people, me playing the star wars Empire), literally HUNDREDS of baseships flying around. I'm getting hammered by the Shard Empire, a fleet of 150 plus ships has exterminated about 3 systems, then I send in my 'Star Destroyer' http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

The ship de-cloaks and destroys the star, BOOM! 150 plus ships, most of wich are base ships, go 'poof!'...

I ended up losing the game anyway, but man, it was probally the BEST PBW game I have played to date!!

That and of course, my other favorite moment was opening up the mailbox and finding the envelope with the game in it! http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Cyrien September 30th, 2001 11:31 PM

Re: OT-Favorite SE4 Moment!!!
 
The look on the other guys face when I locked him into his system with Stellar manip tech at the early phases of the game and his star went super nova soon after by a random event!

Wait.... That was me! DOH. Still... I have to admit it was pretty fun. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon12.gif Sucks getting eliminated so early in a game like that though. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

Suicide Junkie September 30th, 2001 11:51 PM

Re: OT-Favorite SE4 Moment!!!
 
The time that my $100,000 dreadnaught went to attack a phong DN, and 9 more decloaked beside it.

A grinding tactical combat ensued, with my expensive defenses slowly being stripped away. At the end, just as I looked to be gaining the upper hand, my supplies ran dry and my shield regenerators collapsed. Just before the Last of my armor vaporized, turn 30 arrived, and two battlecruisers swooped in to save the day.

Phoenix-D October 1st, 2001 01:44 AM

Re: OT-Favorite SE4 Moment!!!
 
The time I managed to catch the opposing player, who had better tech and the same number of ships, refitting his entire fleet to even better tech at the same time. Major destruction.

Or, as Cyrien said, "oops, that was me". http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon10.gif

Phoenix-D

Saxon October 1st, 2001 06:54 AM

Re: OT-Favorite SE4 Moment!!!
 
The best moment I had was in the Space 1999 scenario. After a very tough, but satisfying fight to dominate the galaxy, I had still not visited Earth. I had never used stellar manipulation before and had spend many turns building a warp point opening ship. I was just about finished with the game when the ship was built, but thought I would try it out. Skipping across the galaxy at such an amazing speed for the first time was great, but to return Earth as the little missing moon base that now ruled the galaxy was even better.

tesco samoa October 1st, 2001 06:10 PM

Re: OT-Favorite SE4 Moment!!!
 
PBEM Game. Enemy de-cloaks with cloaking level 3 and I have not even researched sensors yet. And my empire survived.

Minus a few planets,systems etc..........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Inter arma silent leges

mac5732 October 1st, 2001 09:17 PM

Re: OT-Favorite SE4 Moment!!!
 
Current Hotseat game, I was able to get one of my human opponets planets to rebel and go independent. Knowing he had fleet in system, I snuck in cloaked mine layers in system, put over 40 mines over the planet, knowing he would demand and get their surrender and giving him a nice surprise, The look on his face when he lost his fleet is unable to be put into words...or when he couldn't figure out which one of us was hitting him with food contamination or getting his AI allies to turn against him....aaaaahhhhhhhhh
hotseat excellent way to play.....

just some ideas mac

Atrocities October 1st, 2001 09:30 PM

Re: OT-Favorite SE4 Moment!!!
 
My favorate moment was opening the FedX package and getting the CD out. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

zircher October 1st, 2001 10:56 PM

Re: OT-Favorite SE4 Moment!!!
 
Browsing the data directory and discovering how wonderfully configurable SE4 is. [Yeah, I'm a game design geek, attend the GDC every year, etc...] :-)
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TAZ

geoschmo October 1st, 2001 11:03 PM

Re: OT-Favorite SE4 Moment!!!
 
The first time I opened my email box and had a turn processed by PBW waiting for me. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon10.gif

Geoschmo

P.S. My second best moment was a few minutes ago reading in this thread that my Space1999 scenario was someone's best SE4 moment. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon6.gif

capnq October 1st, 2001 11:39 PM

Re: OT-Favorite SE4 Moment!!!
 
Probably the first time I convinced an AI empire to surrender to me.

But a recent PBW battle runs a close second. My fleet wiped out my opponent's, despite all expectations I'd had from the results of simulator battles.

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Cap'n Q
My first mod! Hypermaze quadrant
The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the
human mind to correlate all of its contents. We live on a placid
island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was
not meant that we should go far. -- HP Lovecraft, "The Call of Cthulhu"

ZeroAdunn October 2nd, 2001 07:06 AM

Re: OT-Favorite SE4 Moment!!!
 
Ok, this isn't actuall an SEIV moment, but an SEIII moment:

I was in the middle of a war, my ships getting pounded and my little three system empire getting hammered. I hadn't built any new ships in a long time and my carriers were about worthless, so I design a new ship class, way better tech than my current fleet. Set all my shipyards to build it. They get constructed, I set the entire fleet to move to my nearest warp point. Nothing happens. I look at the design and realise that I was short 1 engine. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon9.gif I was so mad!

(on a side note, did the same thing SEIV, this time forgot to give it any engines, only built three ships fortunately.

Phoenix-D October 2nd, 2001 08:04 AM

Re: OT-Favorite SE4 Moment!!!
 
That is a ready-made case of "retrofit me. PLEASE!" http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

Phoenix-D

henk brouwer October 2nd, 2001 11:07 AM

Re: OT-Favorite SE4 Moment!!!
 
My favorite, or in this case most embarrasing se4 moment:

I was playing a game against the AI, and was not meeting much, if any resistance. I was in first place and nothing could stop me from winning. Because I wanted something of a challenge I made the AI a offer it couldn't refuse: I offered to trade all my planets and ships in exchange for one of his planets, and was planning to rebuild my empire from there.

Strangely the AI refused the trade and made a counter proposal, all my planets and ships for an unknown planet. I was suprised but accepted.

Next turn I figured out what had happened, the planet the AI had given me was exterminated by a plague, with no population and thus, no construction possibilities I had lost the game http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon9.gif

but it was a lot of fun...

mac5732 October 2nd, 2001 07:21 PM

Re: OT-Favorite SE4 Moment!!!
 
Well, I must confess, my most embarrasing moment was, after already playing a number of games, I was in a hurry to conquer the universe, sent out 3 colony ships to various systems, hit colonize, and NOTHING HAPPENED.
After much soul searching and *#@#@#*&, the great wanna be conquer determined that he forgot to put colonists on the ships.....oh the shammmmmmeeee of it allll. (Blushing profusly).

PS. I was not, contrary to what TS might say, eating burgers & fries at the time,,,,,

just some ideas mac

[This message has been edited by mac5732 (edited 02 October 2001).]

[This message has been edited by mac5732 (edited 02 October 2001).]

Dragonlord October 2nd, 2001 08:12 PM

Re: OT-Favorite SE4 Moment!!!
 
My favorite moments in PBW games are when you have been building up, have a nice fleet, and then go to war with your neighbour who is roughly equally strong with an equal number of ships. I love the anticipation of the next turn coming in with the battle reports and seeing that I won by better anticipating the enemy ship designs.
My best moment was the first time this happened, was also my first PBW game, I had stockpiled some 800k in minerals, neighbour (friend)suddenly declares war, I knew hu uses PPB's, I start researching phased shields like nuts and spent 700k in two turns retrofitting all my fleets...then we battle (about 50 vs 50 ships)and: He lost all, I lost about 6 ships http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif
3 turns later he surrendered.
I couldn't stop smiling all night :-)

tesco samoa October 2nd, 2001 09:40 PM

Re: OT-Favorite SE4 Moment!!!
 
First time deploying mines.

Built the mine layer ships and deployed them.

This took about 15 turns.

Then I went to deploy the mines and could not do it. Anyways it was my first pbem game and I figured that the mines were automaticly built on the ship and then could be deployed when ever.

A very costly mistake. I lost all the mine layer ships and then was informed by the enemy that I had to build mines and transport them for deployment.

Needless to say I have never made that mistake again.

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Menschenfresser October 2nd, 2001 10:25 PM

Re: OT-Favorite SE4 Moment!!!
 
Longest Battle

Last game I played against the AI, I triggered MEE when I unmothballed 25 ships to repay a neighbor for trashing two of my planets.

A second empire's fleet, The Colonials, out of no where appeared in one of my more important systems. Eight Dreadnoughts of a build I knew, so I sent a fleet of ten Battleships equipped with the Lastest in Psych tech.

The tactical screen opens and I swallow hard at the 10 additional ships that had been cloaked. I forgot that my battleships weren't equipped with scanners. Crap. And they happened to be fully loaded carriers...all in all about 500 fighters.

I move the ships off of the edge to gain retreating room. Colonial fighters pour out like mosquitos. Slowly, my small fleet picks them off, bLasting them back. Mixed in with the fighters arrive the back bone of their fleet, the dreadnoughts. No shots to spare, I shoot only until they have no weapons and then allow them to retreat.

Outcome: After 30 turns.
Of my ten, I lose four...of the other six, only two get out of the fight with some shields still in operation.

Only a few Colonial fighters remain...less than fifty. 6 crippled dreadnoughts remain and all of their carriers.

The next turn the reserves arrive. Needless to say, that fleet went on into history with 50% exp...highest I have ever had.

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Puke October 2nd, 2001 11:27 PM

Re: OT-Favorite SE4 Moment!!!
 
caught in an AI war one time, my fleet of 50 or so dreadnaughts were on their way to cleanse evil from the galaxy, in the form of a little species-cleansing. they were one warp away from their target, in a system belonging to an allied empire. A third empire warps into the system with a war fleet, poised to attack my ally. Since the newcommer on the scene is also an ally, I order my ships to continue on course to their target, and not interfere with local politics.

except the invading AI has brought a stardestroyer, and before my fleet can warp to their target, the entire system is turned into a massive blackhole. all of the AI planets in the system are destroyed, and I loose all 50 dreadnaughts.

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Spoo October 3rd, 2001 01:07 AM

Re: OT-Favorite SE4 Moment!!!
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> the invading AI has brought a stardestroyer <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The AI uses stardestroyers?!

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Assume you have a 1kg squirrel
E=mc^2
E=1kg(3x10^8m/s)^2=9x10^16J
which, if I'm not mistaken, is equivilent to roughly a 50 megaton nuclear bomb.
Fear the squirrel.

Puke October 3rd, 2001 01:21 AM

Re: OT-Favorite SE4 Moment!!!
 
ever since 1.30, i think. but the answer is definitly a 'YES.'

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"...the green, sticky spawn of the stars"
(with apologies to H.P.L.)

DirectorTsaarx October 4th, 2001 03:33 PM

Re: OT-Favorite SE4 Moment!!!
 
Late game, two battleships cruising Drushocka space (an enemy at this point); I'd been glassing planets with these ships for a few turns - nothing special, just AP Beams on one ship, DUCs on the other, and the Drushocka bring in a fleet of 6 DNs. I figure I'm in trouble, but I want to see the designs so I use tactical combat. The silly Drushocka have researched high-energy weapons, and replaced their dangerous organic weapons with Ripper Beams. Which, of course, are dangerous if you let the enemy close, but a DN doesn't usually get a chance to close with a battleship. Especially ones with Quantum Engines and Solar Sails and Propulsion Expert trait. Those two battleships single-handedly defeated the Drushocka - multiple fleets, lots of planets, defense sats, etc. Ship and fleet experience were both legendary by the end of the war. I hated to quit that game, but a new patch came out...

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mac5732 October 4th, 2001 05:23 PM

Re: OT-Favorite SE4 Moment!!!
 
Puke, in ref to AI & Star Destroyers is this in original game or mods. I've never seen this happen in any of my games, at least that I know of. Do you get a message when a systems blows that enemy blew up your system or any warning? I'm just wondering if I'm missing something... tks

just some ideas mac

Puke October 4th, 2001 06:47 PM

Re: OT-Favorite SE4 Moment!!!
 
well, it only happened to me once, and in 1.30 or somesuch. it was the Version when they just fixed the AIs use of stellar manip, and i was playing a max tech game with no warp points where I had sealed myself off for about 100 turns to let the computer build up forces before I came out of hiding. so they had a long time to construct whatever wierd stuff is in their build list. I have not actually checked the AI construction file to see how late in the list the stardestroyer component is, but if you have ships in the system, you do indeed get a message indicating that "such-and-such empire has exploded/imploded/ whatever-star" and that you have lost x ships and y planets.

Alpha Kodiak October 4th, 2001 06:54 PM

Re: OT-Favorite SE4 Moment!!!
 
Well, having been a victim of the Torons using a black hole creator on me in a PBW max tech game, I can attest to the fact that the AI does indeed use stellar manipulation. We had a 3 planet start, so I had homeworlds in two different systems. I was under attack by three different AI races including the Torons, and they had breached my warp point defenses on one of my homeworld systems. I concentrated my defensive forces on my homeworld and felt pretty secure until the Torons turned the star into a black hole and wiped everything out. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/shock.gif

mac5732 October 4th, 2001 07:06 PM

Re: OT-Favorite SE4 Moment!!!
 
Tks Puke, this is interesting, Does anyone know if any specific files change depending on which setup one uses?? I was wondering that somethings are seen by some and not by others but most of the time it seems it depends on setup of playing field and what is chosen. SJ, Baron, Atrocities etc, any ideas or imput, do some of the files change as far as what is built, used, etc by the AI depending on initial set-up, where somethings are used by the AI in certain games but not in others??

just some ideas mac

Master Belisarius October 4th, 2001 07:33 PM

Re: OT-Favorite SE4 Moment!!!
 
I think that you don't need something special:
1) The AI must have Stellar Manipulation capabilities.
2) Include the ships into the _AI_Construction_Vehicles.

For example, for my modded races, I have included the construction of a sun destroyer, in the early Infraestructure queue, and I saw both races using these ships very often (in games with all the tech available from the start, or in standard games but after research this tech).

Alpha Kodiak October 4th, 2001 07:37 PM

Re: OT-Favorite SE4 Moment!!!
 
I think that the reason I saw them use it was that the game I was in was a max-tech game with all AI versus all humans. Since the torons were initially isolated from all of the humans, they were not at war with anyone and had time to get to the construction of SM ships.

mac5732 October 4th, 2001 07:57 PM

Re: OT-Favorite SE4 Moment!!!
 
I've never played a max-tech yet, think I'll give a try, always looking for surprises in a game, tks

just some ideas mac


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