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Scarlioni March 19th, 2009 06:25 PM

Peg Castle?
 
Could someone educate me on what a Peg Castle and a Tel City are?

I just can't picture what these fortress types are.

ano March 19th, 2009 06:37 PM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
Tel City is a home fortress of C'tis, Hinnom, Ashdod and Gath.
Peg Castle can be found with a site that gives Wizards.

Omnirizon March 19th, 2009 06:41 PM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
tel city is probably a 'hill city' or 'city on a hill'. that would be a roughly Hebrew translation.

Amorphous March 20th, 2009 02:55 AM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
"Peg" can in some instances refer to a wooden stake. Therefore, I think a peg castle is somewhat similar to a wooden palisade, but extended to be an actual castle.

Regarding "Tel" I think Omnirizon is right on the money, but I also see another interesting connotation. "Tel" (or "Tell" - I have seen both spellings used) is also a term for an archaeological site where civilizations are found built on top of each other. This echoes the mythology of the factions that have it quite beautifully.


The above, however, is only what I see in the words of the terms themselves. I have not seen the terms themselves used outside of Dominions.

llamabeast March 20th, 2009 05:52 AM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
The Peg Castle is ridiculously hard to siege, isn't it? So I don't think it's made of wood.

Personally I imagine it standing on a peg-shaped bit of rock in the mountains, so that it's very hard to even run up to, let alone damage.

Amorphous March 20th, 2009 06:50 AM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by llamabeast (Post 681237)
The Peg Castle is ridiculously hard to siege, isn't it? So I don't think it's made of wood.

Personally I imagine it standing on a peg-shaped bit of rock in the mountains, so that it's very hard to even run up to, let alone damage.

You are most probably right.

Castles and fortifications in mountains do tend to have high defence in Dominions, but the hillfort definitely has lower than the peg castle so you have a definite point. Your explanation also uses a more common meaning of peg. Not to mention that the image it presents is much more appealing.

In short, I am thoroughly convinced.

Agema March 20th, 2009 07:02 AM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
I assumed it referred to "peg" in the sense of fastening or holding: a castle that holds together or underpins the defence of something, hence it needing to be enormously hard to take. I've never heard the term before, though. Although I think Llamabeast's suggestion sounds better.

It might not be an English word though...

llamabeast March 20th, 2009 07:06 AM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
I suspect my explanation is actually wrong, but I find it pleasing enough to the imagination. :)

Sombre March 20th, 2009 07:24 AM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
I imagined it to be a castle 'pegged' onto a sheer cliff face.

Executor March 20th, 2009 08:31 AM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
From what I was able to find, they are basically mountain fortifications which are supposed to be very hard to get to. There are actually a lot of those where I live.

Edi March 20th, 2009 09:57 AM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Executor (Post 681249)
From what I was able to find, they are basically mountain fortifications which are supposed to be very hard to get to. There are actually a lot of those where I live.

So when we come to conquer your home province, we should prepare for a long and hard siege? ;) :D

Executor March 20th, 2009 10:19 AM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
Very very very long siege.

Poopsi March 20th, 2009 10:36 AM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
Hmm. I googled "peg castle" and this was the result

Really goddamn huge image changed to link

Don't inline massive images like that. They are too disruptive. ~Edi

Endoperez March 20th, 2009 11:35 AM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
Why do we need to see that picture in 2300x3500 resolution, again?

Not that I'm complaining, as I just happened to need a reference image and this works fine, but I don't usually come here to look for high-resolution images.

Amhazair March 20th, 2009 01:57 PM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
Expanding on and combining Omni's and Amorphous explanations, a Tell city is indeed the term used for cities where new constructions were built and rebuilt on top of the remains of the older cities, thus effectively forming a hill in a formerly flat landscape.

A famous example is the Mythological Troy which, if I recall correctly, was found to be on the 7th or 9th layer of out of a total of some 20-odd cities built on top of one another. Can't remeber whether it was 7th/9th from the top or the bottom though. ;)

This is a very common occurence throughout ancient times in the Middle east, starting from the very first cities built (All right, from the very second ones, which were built on top of those very first ones.) untill... and this is where my historical knowledge fails me, but if I were to hazard a guess I'd say till roughly 300BC. (I can imagine the various Persian civilisations still doing it, but Alexander had a penchant of building brand new cities, possbily next to older ones, but not on top of them I believe.)

And this concludes today's lecture... :)

thejeff March 20th, 2009 02:11 PM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
I'll second the "Don't post huge pictures for no particular reason." It makes the posts stretch out and become unreadable.

Shrink the picture or link to it if you really feel the need.

Omnirizon March 20th, 2009 02:28 PM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
he wanted us to see her face in every horrifying detail...

is it just me, or are her eyes both blue and brown?

Executor March 20th, 2009 02:28 PM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
Normans also built forts over each other when they invaded England in 11 century, mostly over Roman forts.

Poopsi March 20th, 2009 02:37 PM

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sorry, I cant find the edit button...

archaeolept March 20th, 2009 03:15 PM

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that's because you can only edit posts w/in 30 minutes. which doesn't explain why you posted such an abomination in the first place. Please pm a mod to get it fixed.

Edi March 20th, 2009 03:24 PM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
It's been fixed. I am NOT amused...

Omnirizon March 20th, 2009 03:25 PM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
I post a picture with the word '****' in it and in 5 minutes a mod rips it down and sends me a warning.

he posts that thing and no one bats an eye.

conclusion: she doesn't have one of the seven bad words scrawled upon her, so therefore she is irrelevant. you know, those seven words you can't say in public: **** Piss **** **** Cocksucker Mother****er Tits

NOTE: if any of those words are not caught by a filter, this post will be removed, I will receive a warning, and that picture will not be touched.

EDIT: I was wrong: Edi took down the pic as I was typing. It remains to be seen what happens to this post.

archaeolept March 20th, 2009 03:44 PM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
cocksucker is a perfectly cromulent word

Omnirizon March 20th, 2009 03:56 PM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
oh archaeolept: how you do embiggen our knowledge, even amongst these words which do cometh from an ensmallened mind.

Executor March 20th, 2009 04:22 PM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
WTF?
How bout swearing in foreign language?

Scarlioni March 20th, 2009 04:28 PM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
Thanks to Poopsi the graphical representation of why Peg Castles are so hard to siege.

Appreciate the explanations of a Tel City, was unfamiliar of the term.

So a Peg Castle is either A) a castle on top of a mesa, the mesa being the Peg or B) a wooden construction pegged to a cliff?

JimMorrison March 20th, 2009 05:21 PM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
Uhh Omni, you haven't looked very closely at very many eyes, have you?


And I could have sworn that this forum forced an auto resize if you directly posted an image - Mindi or Annette demonstrated it..... but I never saw anyone say that restriction was being lifted. Sometimes things really were for our own good. Not often, but sometimes. ;)

Lingchih March 20th, 2009 09:18 PM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
Peg Castles are 700 walls, the second hardest castle to siege. Peg Cities are 500 walls. The hardest cities to siege.

cleveland March 21st, 2009 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Omnirizon (Post 681298)
is it just me, or are her eyes both blue and brown?

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Yes.

Dedas March 22nd, 2009 02:53 PM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
She's a witch! Burn her! Burn her!

Gregstrom March 22nd, 2009 06:49 PM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
Hang on - we'll need a duck and a large set of scales first :P

vfb March 22nd, 2009 07:01 PM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
I'm more worried about the debris that appears to be lodged in the embrasures of the Peg Castle. Those crenelations need floss badly!

Executor March 22nd, 2009 07:06 PM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
I doubt anyone will be storming that castle...

Omnirizon March 22nd, 2009 10:31 PM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
the most hilarious thing is that before this thread existed, the top 10 hits for Peg Castle were to that person (is she a real estate agent?), Peg Castle.

Now, this thread in this forum is the second hit. The funny thing is that it is a thread talking about that person. Hopefully Peg doesn't google her own name and see the things we've been saying about her :p

Lingchih March 22nd, 2009 11:43 PM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
Lol. Poor Peg.

Scarlioni March 24th, 2009 02:11 AM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
The question remains unanswered! What the heckubus is a Peg?

There's a Peg City too? My rule book only shows a Peg castle.

Poopsi March 24th, 2009 02:55 AM

Re: Peg Castle?
 
The OP was about Peg Castle and the Tel City (which is Hinnom's fortress)

(hmm, google image tel city?)


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