General Game Information
Name of the Game - CarCrash
Type - llamaserver PBEM (Play By EMail)
Age - Early
Players - 14
Open To - All Players, but some experience advised
Nations - Random ***
Mods - CBM Complete 1.41 (includes Worthy Heroes 1.8) *** http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=42022
Victory Conditions - Hold 50% of capitals for 3 turns (7 out of 14 capitals)

Map - Orania
Independents - 5
Research - Standard
Magic Sites - Default (which is 45 for EA)
Money - Default
Resources - Default
Supplies - Default
Random Events - Default (which is Common)
Re-naming - On
Score Graphs - Off *** (provisional)
Hall Of Fame - 10 ***

Please take note of those settings marked with *** as they are different from the default settings that MP games usually have.

Hosting Schedule, Delays, Stale Turns, AI/Substitutes
A rough schedule will be -
First Turn - 48h.
Turn 2-25 - 30h quickhost.
Turn 26-45 - 54h quickhost.
Turn 45+ - 78h quickhost.

Happy to increase the time between turn hosting at earlier points than indicated if anyone is struggling with the schedule at the time. Having to rush turns, or submit partly completed turns, seriously detracts from a players enjoyment of the game. And a game is always better if everyone is enjoying it.

Ideally, please post in the game thread and PM me if you need a delay, just in case I miss one of them (and so that the other players know what's going on). I'm a friendly admin, so most delays will be granted, but please give as much notice as possible. Since asking for a delay 5 minutes before hosting probably won't do any good. In the early phase any request up to 48 hours should be ok (if you are away over a weekend for example), anything longer may need to be temporarily subbed (or accept a stale). Once the game gets more intense and critical, then longer delays will usually be granted.

Stale turns are always unwelcome, but they are not the end of the world, and I doubt a stale free MP game has ever existed. So can I please ask that players not to drop-out just because of a stale turn or two. If a player stales for 3 consecutive turns then the position will be assessed, and that player will either be turned AI, or a substitute will be sought. In the latter case, the game will be delayed for 48 hours while a search takes place.

If you do have to leave the game for any reason, then please can you let the admin know about it. I understand fully myself that it's not always possible to do this, but it is always highly appreciated if possible :) And if you can find your own substitute for your position, then that would be even better.

Who Can Play In This Game?
Anyone is welcome to play in this game as it will be open to all players, regardless of their experience or skill level. But please note that newbie players wanting to play can not expect any special leniency from the more experienced players in any way. So please be aware before signing up that this is not a 'Newbie' game, and will likely not be the best environment for new players to learn about the game.

How Do You Select Your Nation?
The nations in this game will be randomly selected. If you are interested in playing then please post in this thread, and I will PM you which nation you have been randomly given. I will also update the game page with this information.

Game Settings and Map
Everything is default except for the Hall Of Fame which I have set at 10 so that only those truly worthy get into it :) and the Score Graphs which I have disabled. Although I am aware of the lack of Indy scouts available in the Early Age, so I may well enable the Score Graphs if the lack of scouts is considered a major problem in Early Age games.

With regards to the map, I have no real preference which one is used, and have provisionally selected 'Orania' as it has 279 provinces (259 Land / 20 Water) which seems fine for about 15 players. Although I am happy to listen to suggestions about an alternative / better map if anyone has some ideas. 'Orania' also only caters for one water nation, so if a second water nation is randomly selected, then either a new map (possibly the 'No Sites Alexander' map) is required or the second water nation will have to be changed to a random land nation instead. May also need to consider changing the map if no water nations pop up.

I'm happy to consider creating a new random map with fixed starting zones (not starting provinces) if the majority of players prefer it, or are unhappy with a 360 wraparound map (which 'Orania' is). It all depends on what the players are happiest with :)

Situation Regarding NAP's etc (Non-Aggression Pacts)
No NAP agreements in this game will be considered as inviolable in any way. You are free to sign as many NAP's as you wish, but you do so at your own risk. Also, I personally think that in a game like Dominions 3 there isn't really any such thing as an NAP, since in theory everyone is aiming to win, and there can be only one winner. So all NAP's should instead be considered as Mutual Benefit Agreements, whereby both nations benefit for whatever reason(s) from not engaging in hostilities against the other nation. But the moment one side is no longer benefiting from such an agreement, then that is the moment they are most likely to break them. So if you are ever surprised by a nation breaking an agreement, then maybe you were mistaken with regards to just how important that agreement was to them, or how much they could gain from suddenly attacking you.

Also, if any NAP (or like agreement) is broken in any way, be it intentional, accidental, or whatever, then you have no right what-so-ever to complain about it in the game thread. Please keep this in mind. Any disputes regarding these matters should be dealt with via PM's.

But remember that trade agreements such as a gem/item swap/purchase are a totally different type of agreement to NAP's. You are expected to honour any and all trade agreements that you make.

Banned Spells and Exploits
1.You are not allowed to copy the script orders from Bogus and his friends to others commanders (ie. The 'Fire Commanders' orders).
2.You are not allowed to overload another players lab by sending them lots of items they did not request. Be they worthless or valuable.

I have been out of the Dominions scene for six months, so other things may also get listed here when/if they are brought to my attention.

Final Note To All Players
First I have a request to all players in this game, and that is to read or refamiliarise yourselves with this great set of general tips regarding personal conduct in MP games written by Sheap. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com//showthread.php?t=32050

Also, please can I further emphasise to everyone to firmly keep in mind that Dominions 3 is a computer game. If someone is dishonest and backstabs you in the game, this does not mean that this is how they are in real life. If you honestly believe that people will behave the same in real life as they do in a computer game then I personally think there is something wrong with you, and I would prefer it if you did not sign up for this game.

'Thank You' for your time in reading all this. Good luck and happy gaming to all the players.

Current List of Nations and Players

Calahan - Yomi :dagger::dagger:
Valerius - Vanheim (Incabulos, the original Vanheim player disappeared on turn 22, and Valerius kindly took over on turn 24)
Jazzepi - Sauromatia :dagger::hurt: (Defeated on turn 65. Went AI on turn 58. Kill credited to Yomi, Pangaea and Caelum)
Fantomen - Abysia :hurt: (Defeated on turn 53. Went AI on turn 38. Kill credited to Tir na n'Og. *** Illuminated One took over on turn 33)
Trumanator - C'tis :hurt: (Defeated on turn 30. Went AI on turn 23. Kill credited to Yomi)
Executor - Pangaea :hurt::dagger::dagger::dagger: (Defeated on turn 82. Went AI on turn 65. Original player had to drop due to RL reasons, and no sub could be found)
Phonics - Atlantis (The original player Silence0 went AWOL on turn 74. Phonics kindly took over on turn 78)
Drager - Hinnom :hurt: (Defeated on turn 32. Went AI on turn 25. Kill credited to Pangaea)
Alpine Joe - Fomoria :hurt: (Defeated on turn 20. Went AI on turn 12. Kill credited to Sauromatia for making them turn AI)
Pelthin - Niefelheim (The original player was Bluff, but he had to drop due to RL reasons)
charshep - Mictlan :hurt: (Defeated on turn 67. Went AI on turn 39. Kill credited to Pangaea)
AlgaeNymph - Tir na n'Og :dagger: (The original player was Zapmeister, with AlgaeNymph kindly taking over on turn 68)
tgbob - Caelum :dagger:
PsiSoldier - Agartha

Key-
:hurt: Defeated - This nation no longer has any influence in the land.
:dagger: Kill - This nation is directly responsible for another nations defeat, or in making them turn AI.
:computer: Currently AI - This nation is now controlled by the computer AI.
:evil: Enemy of All - This nation is currently hated by most other nations, probably for putting up a game winning global.
:trophy: Overall Winner - This nations Pretender has become the one true God, and has complete rule of the land.

The above symbol idea was shamelessly stolen by me from a game that 'AreaOfEffect' is admining. Thanks for the idea AoE :)

Edit: I have added the most recent CBM 1.41 mod for anyone having problems with the inconsistant battle replays.

How Nice
 

Oh great, I get Yomi. And there was me hoping my first game back would be a nice powerhouse nation to ease me back into the Dominions world. But instead my brain now gets to hurt right from the off.

No offence intended to the many thousands of Yomi fans out there of course :)

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I am game :) may as well jump in early when the randomness has a more volatile range :D




edit: ooh Wales... I miss the greenery. Went to Uni in Newport/Caerleon. Already been 12 years... awk!


edit 2: Oh I am assuming graphs off. I prefer avoiding the artificial game device of graphs and prefer people try to figure that kind of info themselves with scouting etc...

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Count me in!

Jazzepi

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I´ll play

Edit: Wouldn´t it be better to reveal the nations when signups are full?

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Hi all..Can i join? Never played pbem only hot-seat with friends.. I´m willing to let my first one be a bloodshed..and random suits me..

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That.......is now a very good point. I did think about this to begin with, but then decided against it because I, as admin, would have an unfair advantage because I'd be the only player who knows which other nations are in the game, so could design my Pretender accordingly. But now I've drawn Yomi, it may not be such an issue (again no offence to Yomi lovers)

What do people think? Should I
1)Wait until the game is full, and Pretenders uploaded before I publish the final nation list.
2)Update the list as new players appear.
3)Makes no real difference either way.

Will delay updating the status page until I get some feedback, and had some sleep :)

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I'll join.

As far as revealing nations goes, I actually think it could be cool if you published the list after its full, but didn't reveal who's who. Sorta similar to a RAND game.

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Count me in, like random nations games. This system works for me.

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i'm in

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1)Wait until the game is full, and Pretenders uploaded before I publish the final nation list.

Please don't make this like RAND. I hate having to use in game diplomacy. The message system blows hard.

Jazzepi

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I would like to play in this. Early age is my favorite for random nations, nearly everyone has something interesting about them.

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Attack!

I'd like to play please.

I like the idea of random nations too :D

Cheers,

Bluff

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I'd like in if there's room.

Re: CarCrash - New EA Game - CBM - Open To All Players but some MP experience advised
 

Cool - sign me up!

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Can I play? I'd like to play. I'm voting for option #1.

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If there are still slots open I'll give it a go

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Wow, this game filled up overnight! Usually a good sign that the community was in need of a new game.

Will PM all the new players their random nation picks as soon as I get chance.

My understanding was that a full RAND game (random nations + hidden players + no diplomacy) only works if the admin isn't playing in the game, since again, the admin player would have an unfair advantage of knowing who was playing the other nations if he was playing in the game himself.

Although it could be an interesting twist if the admin had the advantage of knowing all the other nations/players, but had the disadvantage in that he had to disclose which nation he was playing. (As would happen in this game if it now got turned RAND). Not actually sure if that's an advantage or disadvantage to the admin player? :confused: Guess it all depends who the admin is :)

I would personally love to play in a full RAND game, but it seems there's only one a year (run by PashaDawg), and that is usually strictly for vets only. I may well setup another game soon that is full RAND, just accept that I can't play in it, and hope it will act as a hint for someone to create another full RAND game that I can play in :) Wink wink, nudge nudge.

I'll probably keep this game to just random nations for now (unless loads think the 'RAND twist' idea is a good one, and prefer that). But if it did go more towards a full RAND game in any way, then diplomacy and communications between nations would likely be disallowed anyway. And don't worry, I would NEVER ask anyone to use in-game messages.
- "What exactly did I just say in that message I sent?" "Oh that's right I forgot, I have absolutely no way of checking it" :doh:

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don't waste time PMing, if it isn't RAND just post the nations..

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Ok, I should have just sent all the new sign-ups a PM, which means everyone who has signed up so far (ie. all those above this post) should have had a PM from me with your chosen nation.

If you haven't received a PM from me telling you your nation, please let me know asap. I was partly relying on the forum PM system to keep track of who I'd sent messages to, but just realised that your sent messages still don't get automatically saved. (Grits teeth and curses :mad:) Thought that would've changed during my hiatus.


I don't mind spending a bit of extra time now, during game creation, PM-ing people if it helps make the game more interesting for everyone :)


Edit: Just realised that we now have 14 players signed up, which is currently giving us an almost exact 20 province per player split, which seems good to me. So I will close this game to new sign-ups as of now.

If any players are looking for new games then I will probably be setting up another game once this one is up and running, so check back soon. Since I highly doubt that one game will be enough to quench my warmongering thurst for power :D

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Right. I have hopefully just setup the game on the llamaserver using the settings indicated on the status page, and the 'Orania' map (which I'm pretty sure is one of the standard maps that comes with Dominions, so no need to download it). So this should mean that it's ok to start uploading your Pretenders.

This is also the first time I have ever used the game creation options on the llamaserver, so apologies in advance if I make any mistakes. It seems pretty idiot proof, but I don't quite class myself as an idiot, so hope it's also proof for someone who falls somewhere between idiot and genius :)

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I have updated the game status page with information regarding the hosting schedule, stales, AI etc. Can I please ask you all to read over it when you get a chance.

I will be out for most of the day, so hope there are no problems with how I've set the game up, and that uploading those Pretenders goes smoothly. Mine is still firmly in the 'how the bloody hell' stage :confused: Although please don't feel pressured into rushing your design to get it uploaded, since I know mine won't be sorted for a good 24 hours, and random nations always leads to a bit of extra time being needed during the design phase.

And a final reminder to everyone to make sure that the 'CBcomplete 1.41' mod is enabled BEFORE you start designing your Pretender. It can be found on the mods forum if you don't already have it, or click the link on the game status page (which is always the first post of the thread)

I should be able to check back on progress in about 12 hours or so.

Enjoy your day everyone :)

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Hrrrm well If you are going with the idea of no one knowing who's playing what nations I suppose you had better make that decision soon because I like many other people have fairly standard names for my Pretenders and its not all that difficult to look at pretender names and so Oh.. so and so uses that name, I know who's playing that nation.

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This game will be sticking to the original plan of simply having random nations, without any of the extra RAND options of hidden player identities and no diplomacy etc.

I will be publishing the complete nation-player list on the status page on turn 2-3 (ie. once we know that turn 1 went off without a hitch).

But in the meantime, I've just noticed that the llamaserver allows you to see which nations Pretenders have already been uploaded, so I can't see much point in keeping secret the full list of random nations that were selected for this game. Since all that is currently achieving is that the later a player designs their Pretender, the more of an advantage they will have. So I will now be putting the full list of nations on the status page for everyone to see.

Will be looking for this game to start within the next 48hours. Which I think should be enough time for everyone to have managed to get a Pretender designed.

Hope everyone is ok with all of the above :)

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Hrrrm well If you are going with the idea of no one knowing who's playing what nations I suppose you had better make that decision soon because I like many other people have fairly standard names for my Pretenders and its not all that difficult to look at pretender names and so Oh.. so and so uses that name, I know who's playing that nation.[/quote]

I promise mt pretenders name does not apply to me! :)

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Hmmmm Me Agartha FEAR ME!!!!! :tough::tough::tough:


Umm.. I don't think anyones fearing me. :(

Yeah.. I kinda doubt anyone would be planning their pretender design around the fact that the great and :rolleyes:powerful:rolleyes: Agartha is in the game..

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Black Magic Woman (my pretender) declares war on Agartha!!!!

DIE INFIDEL!!!!

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:party:Yay! He Fears me!!!:party:


On second thought...



Ummmm. :ahh::cry::ahh: Were not Worthy!!! :bow::bow::bow:

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Sooo... Starting any time soon???

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Looks like we are only waiting on two Pretenders now for this game to start. Agartha and Vanheim. I will go and PM them now to give them a friendly reminder :)

Hoping that this game will kick off within the next 12 hours.

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Yeah I worked 13 hours today and I am still trying to fine tune my pretender design. I'm pretty tired right now but I'll work on it some more. Agartha's troops suck so bad even a triple bless cant help them but I'm still playing with my options as Ive never played them before. I guarantee I'll have it in by tomorrow night though at the latest.

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Try out the trogs if you haven't. They're low resource cost and clear our indies great. You'll need to get to a critical mass to avoid losing a couple with each province you take. Once you get to that point, though, they can take just about any indy province and you can expand very quickly.

You also need gold for your good mages.

I would go something like this.

Order 3
Sloth 3
Heat 0
Growth 0 (more if you can, to get extra monies early on for trogs)
Misfortune 2
Magic 1

Feel free to raise the growth to pickup some extra income if you have leftover pretender scales. I would probably take an awake great sage to help your magic diversity, and to do researching to turn on your earth mages. If you pay attention to who your neighbors are, you should be able to counter any rushes with, basically just your earth magic, and troop spam. Also, throw earth and blood on your pretender to eventually diversify into blood magic and blood stones.

Earth Meld is great against high defense troops, Armor of Achielles works well against high protection troops (or troops with small numbers in general like neifel giants), and blade wind is great against spammable sacreds that have low protection values.

Jazzepi

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Taking a slight heat scale is also helpful, what with the agarthans being coldblooded.

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Almost the exact design I have been playing with except I was going growth 3 and trying to decide if I should drop some for more magic on my pretender

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How are those two missing Pretenders looking PsiSoldier, and the still unrevealed Vanheim player?

I'm happy to allow some extra time due to having random nations, and the unfamiliarity that can cause :) But also wary that some players can lose interest in a game if it takes too long getting started.

So please don't make me send my Bakemono chaff hordes round to sort you out :sec:

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I will get my pretender in today 9within the next 6 hours or so) figured out what I want to do I just haven't had time (since I am at work).

Sorry for the hold up but Vanheim is new to me.

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Heh, beast brother for first turn mercs, who will recruit them? Only time will tell! Be sure to tune in to the next exciting episode of CarCrash!

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Excellent, we're up and running :D

Unfortunately I can't check my start location out until I get home from work :( Can I handle the tension?

Also, a quick note about possible restarts. I'm probably only going to consider restarting if someone gets a game destroying event on turn 1. Like the Ancient Presence or Knight horde for example. Basically, any event that sees you losing control of your capital after the first turn. Huge unrest events are certainly no reason to expect a re-start, and are part of the risks involved in taking misfortune.

I may also consider a restart for Mictlan if they got dom-killed due to a faith reducing event. But Mictlan players should be aware of this danger, and take a non-awake Pretender at their own risk.

And close starting locations are just a regular part of the game. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't. Certainly not a reason to re-start. Everyone needs to brandish their pen or sword at some point. A close neighbour just means it happens sooner.

Think that covers most variables.

Good Luck Everyone

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FYI, I believe that one of the developers confirmed that certain events, such as those that you mention, can't happen in the first 3-4 turns.

And honestly, none of those sound like reasons to restart. In Lapis, playing the tomb kings, I've gotten hit by 7-8 knight +militia attacks by turn 21 or so. Oh well :O You just deal with it.

Jazzepi

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I agree, I like my starting posiotion too much to restart.

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I probably should have been more specific above :)

A restart in my books should only happen on turn 1 or 2. If nobody reports any problems after the first turn, then restarts are strictly not allowed. Since at that point, in theory, you would have had a chance to avoid any game destroying events. ie. Setting your Mictlan priest/prophet to sacrifice on turn 2.

I have noticed that some games in the past have restarted as late as turn 7-8-9. Which to me is just crazy talk!

So basically, if anyone gets a knight horde etc from turn 3 onwards then it's just bad luck, and please don't try asking for a restart.


Thanks for this info Jazzepi. I remember several threads before that debated the issue, with some saying that these events (a)do happen (b)shouldn't happen (c)couldn't happen. Didn't know the delevopers had confirmed that (c) is actually the truth. It's good to know this.


Glad you like your starting position Executor. Hope I'll be able to say the same :D

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I´d change the thrad title to "running" to avoid confusion.

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Thanks for the reminder Fantomen :)

Well my starting place sucks, so hope my neighbours are friendly!

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I've just PM'd the two players who haven't got their first turns in.

PsiSoldier looks to be a forum regular, so pretty confident that Agartha won't stale. The Mictlan player however, charshep, hasn't posted anywhere since signing up for this game, so I'm slightly worried that they might have gone AWOL. And an AI or staling EA/LA Mictlan usually just means a free early dom kill + 2nd capital for it's neighbour, which would lead to a major bit of unbalancing that I'd certainly be looking to avoid in this game.

Also don't see much point in keeping hold of the master player-nation list anymore, so will put it up on the status page.

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If Mictlan stales the first turn, I suggest you get a sub.
So, Jazzepir has Sauromatia, nice.

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I'm really hoping I can head-off any first turn stales. Will wait another few hours and if I still haven't heard anything from Mictlan (still confident PsiSoldier will be ok) then I'll try looking for a sub.

Although at this point I'd like to take a quick vote if I can. If Mictlan does need to be subbed, should I do any / all of ........

1) Offer the sub a restart so that they can design their own Mictlan Pretender.
2) Offer the sub a new random non-water nation and of course a restart.
3) Drop Mictlan, and restart with 13 nations.
4) Let the game run and hope a sub can be found for Mictlan who is happy to sub-into the game as is.
5) Turn Mictlan AI.

My own vote would probably be for 3, as that should ensure the quickest restart. Since options 1 or 2 would need extra time due to Pretender designing, and I really don't want to see 4 or 5 happen, And I think that would give someone too much of an unfair advantage early on. As we all know the AI can't handle the EA/LA Mictlan dominion.

Please can everyone let me know their thoughts on this.

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Personally I'm for option 4 if it comes to that.
I've seen what restarts and rollback do in the first couple of turns of the game, so it's gonna get ugly.

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I'm for 5. The problem with 4 is that the game will never quickhost, ultimately dragging it out more than a restart would.

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I wouldn't AI mictlan, of all nations, due to the dom kill. Pause and look for a sub befor ehe stales, shouldn't be too hard to find a taker for mictlan early game

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I vote for #4.