Well love me or hate me probably both first install of database check to about 6000
Cut out for you with similar weapons beside for comparison.
Its an open office spreadsheet if you do not have its a free download or might open in excel. If open in excel & lose colouring will have to download as errors are marked in red. Not to bad considering amount of data but having a beer handy might not be a bad idea, of course that might have caused the problem in the first place:D

The errors are just what was thrown out so presented as is did comment as cut out if noticed something name changes not that important but stops throwing up as errors & or catches more as think set to check against weapon name & class & highlight diffrences. Also ignore my comment at start about 120mm MTRs once I got to realised what was going on several diffrent models called 120mm MTR so chucked out a lot of range issues. As said United Nations & R&D not included but all others are covered.

As a matter of intrest I assume diffrent ammo loadouts for basicly the same vehicle are due to that nation having a lack of high end ammo rather than errors, could be both:rolleyes: but looked about right to me from what I saw with likes of South America etc lacking in APCR or getting late to extend the life of the tank to arcaic levels.

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This will not open in Excel and I'm not the least bit interested in DLing a "free" program that forces me to "Get 3 Years Unlimited Software Download & Support ONLY $11.98/year"

So the only two alternatives are post any hard data inconsistencies you find on the forum( variations on HEK or accuracy etc etc for one weapon ) or find some way to convert this to something that can be read by Excel.

Don

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The Open Office suite can save to Word format, so probably can handle XLS. It may even be a form of .xls Don's Microsoft Excel might be able to read :)!

It can definitely read .xls files - I have the thing on my netbook, which is languishing since its touch-pad went wonky.

The Original Poster should really explore the File->Save As dialogue of the thing. Save as the oldest version of Microsoft Orifice file you can get away with, and you are more likely to have end users able to read your files. (Excel 95 say), or .csv as that is universally portable (and Excel reads it too :)!

Meanwhile I'l continue with the paradox database and SQL like
Which lets you compare the armour suite of the zsu-24s in the game - but like all checking, the cases where some nation has it renamed to a "zing ping 4A2M234" won't get picked up by such a query...

so you end up with carp like:
which zeros in on some variations of the SO-152 SPH (and gives some noise as well.. While still having the initial simple query's problem that if you did not know there was a variant called a "Ping Pong 66" then it wont be detected :(.)

With SQL queries we can check a lot of things - but first we need to know the problem is there and what prcisely to look at.

Andy

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Exactly.

Lot's of times things have been missed because the original OOB designer decided to go with some "national" flavour so a T-55 is a T55 because that's what they call it at the Uzdreckistanian defence ministry. Or a half dozen variations on a .30 cal MG.

Yes, ultimately this is our database and we are responsible for what's in it and that's what we are attempting to do because at the time the OOB's were first created we couldn't look over everyone's shoulder . As Andy says, once we know that , for example, there are variations in Breda HMG's we can search for them but sometimes it's impossible to guess every variation of that name someone could have thought it should be known as especially when there may be one set as "Breda M.30 LMG" and another as M.30 Breda LMG. When we find things like this I try to standardize the names but it's not always possible to imagine every possible variation and something may be missed so yes, if anyone finds anything odd please let us know and we'll fix it


Don

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Who created the original OOB's ? Is that listed somewhere?

Cheers

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Don, Andy, for info.

I have resumed the data checking that I was doing previously, now with the v4.5 OOBs. Instead of writing up results in separate posts I will comply all results into an Excel file and add it to this post. This will be one file for all weapon classes so it is a few weeks away from completion.

Clearly this will duplicate the efforts of others, but the more eyes we get on this the greater the likelihood of ferreting out all the inconsistent data for the next version.

If you intend to incorporate user generated OOBs in future there is a role for a data checker/ beta tester for new OOBs. I don't mind volunteering, on the grounds that it is right to put something in to get something back. No reason for you guys to do all the work, I believe that the user community has a part to play in improving the game, and with contributions that are genuinely beneficial.

cheers,

Tim

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Try 2 saved as excel if does not work will post as word & CSV file

Tis a rare breed genuine free program.

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The info tab in MOBHack lists OOB contributors and it shows up at the bottom of the encyclopeadia screen. If one name is listed it was originally done mainly by that person, two or more names indicates the work was split evenly. If it was real collaborative effort then it might just report "The Camo Workshop" with no specific name but all now report "The Camo Workshop" along with the original designer because of all the upgrades and changes made since the OOB's were released. An example of "T55" still exists in the Uganda and Nigerian OOB's. We generally search for something like that as t%55 and the % allows the program to list T-55 or T55 ( which also picks up things like a Type 55 AA gun unless I specify it should be a tank or exclude those other classes. It can get tricky sometimes trying to get what we want.

I thought all the "T55's" were gone by now........something else for the to - do list.

Don

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This works.


Don

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Final part for you to get round to

Good idea but you are a bit of a rare breed Tim in this take society we now live in most people don't give anymore sadly

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One more possibly I noticed if name inconsistent

ID87 Bulgaria PzF 3T DC HEAT 80 Range 10 HE Kill 5
all others
PzF 3 IT-600 DC with 90 -12-6

Also do a search for HOT2 some seem to have HOT3 specs sorry deleted info

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Sorry think included already its the Polish HOT-2 that has HOT-3 specs

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Got it

Don

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Last couple of things from me things noticed while playing about & might have missed

PLO Inf ATGM Team Malyutka 206? has size of 1

33 Spain 145 SS-11 B
28 Netherlands 146 SS-11B2
34 Italy 168 SS-11 B2
Look at accuracys 70-70-60 respectivly may have covered

Also think AS-12 accuracy needs looking at less than AS-11 sorry no further info from my data base.

Might get around to doing a unit check for MBT or WW2 if you want sometime in the future. Noticed a couple of things in MBT but did not run a check just Mk1 eyeballs

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Okay told a porky as have file ran WW2 weapons check.
Sorry dont have time to cut out so will have to scan down as whole file but not large compared to MBT one, took me a while to go through it:D

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OK, Thanks. I've placed this in the to-do folder

Don

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In cases like this the other possibility is the name is wrong and the specs are correct so I will check that as well. HOWEVER...... in this case the weapon was added to the Polish OOB but is not used by any unit so that's a moot point.

Don

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This is, of course, becasue the "PzF 3T DC" and the "PzF 3 IT-600 DC" are two entirely different weapons and the 8 nations that used the "PzF 3T DC" all have the same weapons stats except Switzerland that had a 5 accuracy instead of 10 ( now corrected ) and the 9 nations that use the "PzF 3 IT-600 DC" all have the same stats except the S.Korean version that had a 10 accuracy when everyone else is 15. ( also now corrected )

So yes, this found and fixed errors but not for the reason you thought :)

Don

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Amussing thought it might be a diffrent weapon I was mucking about with wild carding on the parameters gave up highlights way to much CMG ranges vs MMG etc have to have an idea what you are looking for.
Anyway I will leave you to it.