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vfb July 2nd, 2009 07:44 PM

Undead immortals and affliction healing
 
I've seen afflictions disappear off a Phoenix (immortal and not undead).

But I've got a bunch of injured Wraith Lords in one game. They've been crippled etc for quite a number of turns now, and do not appear to be getting better at all. Am I just unlucky? Do undead immortals automatically heal their afflictions over time?

Micah July 2nd, 2009 08:31 PM

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Yeah, sounds like bad luck, they'll heal eventually.

Foodstamp July 2nd, 2009 08:41 PM

Re: Undead immortals and affliction healing
 
Keep in mind some wounds take longer to heal than others. The one that I noticed taking the longest is the "Never healing wound" that gives a 20% hp reduction. I have seen immortal/recuperating units keep that affliction for a VERY long time.

Lingchih July 2nd, 2009 11:46 PM

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heh. wonder how long "grow a new head" takes.

chrispedersen July 2nd, 2009 11:59 PM

Re: Undead immortals and affliction healing
 
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Originally Posted by vfb (Post 699332)
I've seen afflictions disappear off a Phoenix (immortal and not undead).

But I've got a bunch of injured Wraith Lords in one game. They've been crippled etc for quite a number of turns now, and do not appear to be getting better at all. Am I just unlucky? Do undead immortals automatically heal their afflictions over time?

You may find it easier to get them killed. You have about a 50% chance to heal an affliction.

vfb July 3rd, 2009 12:34 AM

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I've been sending out the never-healing-wound guys into battle because I figured there wasn't much chance of that healing anyway, and they've been killed repeatedly without their affliction disappearing.

I've got more cripples that I'm not using to attack (AP=2 is lame). I thought they would have healed by now. Maybe my miasma is interfering: they could be auto-healing the disease they occasionally get first, and never get around to healing their legs. I wasn't really paying attention to their diseased status, but I think I saw it pop up occasionally.

Lch has disease healing first in his afflictions recovery summary:

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showpost.php?p=674202

chrispedersen July 3rd, 2009 01:31 AM

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I think you've got it exactly right. They are healing - and recontracting the disease. I've seen the exact thing before.

Sombre July 3rd, 2009 07:12 AM

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Yep, my guess would be miasma is complicating things.

llamabeast July 3rd, 2009 07:38 AM

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AP=2 is lame
:) .

Swan July 4th, 2009 01:43 PM

Re: Undead immortals and affliction healing
 
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Originally Posted by Foodstamp (Post 699337)
Keep in mind some wounds take longer to heal than others. The one that I noticed taking the longest is the "Never healing wound" that gives a 20% hp reduction. I have seen immortal/recuperating units keep that affliction for a VERY long time.

IMHO, not even immortal/rec unit should heal from it and healer should not be able to heal it.
never means never.
1 : not ever : at no time <I never met her>
2 : not in any degree : not under any condition <never the wiser for his experience>

Edi July 4th, 2009 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Swan (Post 699661)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Foodstamp (Post 699337)
Keep in mind some wounds take longer to heal than others. The one that I noticed taking the longest is the "Never healing wound" that gives a 20% hp reduction. I have seen immortal/recuperating units keep that affliction for a VERY long time.

IMHO, not even immortal/rec unit should heal from it and healer should not be able to heal it.
never means never.
1 : not ever : at no time <I never met her>
2 : not in any degree : not under any condition <never the wiser for his experience>

That's one opinion among many and reliant on absolute interpretation of words while ignoring possible colloquial usage. It's hard enough to heal with GoH or the Chalice, never mind the lesser healing techniques and can persist for a long time even when subjected to constant healing checks, because it has that great a difficulty. For everyone but a few, it is indeed a never-healing wound.

vfb July 4th, 2009 06:50 PM

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I think it's that "10% Healing Wound (at Best)" or "Hardly Ever Healing Wound" just sound kind of silly.

Sombre July 4th, 2009 07:25 PM

Re: Undead immortals and affliction healing
 
The wound is never healing. It can be healed by supernatural/external forces, however :]

Frozen Lama July 4th, 2009 08:03 PM

Re: Undead immortals and affliction healing
 
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Originally Posted by vfb (Post 699699)
I think it's that "10% Healing Wound (at Best)" or "Hardly Ever Healing Wound" just sound kind of silly.

not bad...... i like it.

Swan July 5th, 2009 02:04 PM

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me too

MaxWilson July 6th, 2009 08:10 PM

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What never?
No, never!
What never?
No, never!
What never?
Well, hardly ever!

-Max

DakaSha July 7th, 2009 02:11 AM

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should have just called it a chronic wound...


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