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wulfir September 6th, 2009 06:24 AM

Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
I have an idea I'd like to try - a dynamic campaign adjusted to the actual player.

Post here the setup you'd like to play; nation, unit, front, year, general difficulty, size of battles etc parameters you find important.

I'll build a scenario based on that and then act as the "game leader"/command level adding missions to the campaign partly based on the outcome of the played scenario.



The idea is to produce a campaign caming experience that is more engaging and creative than a regular long/generated campaign and that in the end can be assembled and tweaked to a custom campaign for all to enjoy.

Can't do it on my own, need some brave souls to step forth...

iCaMpWiThAWP September 6th, 2009 07:20 PM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
Hmmm... i don't get it very well, you mean, someone posts a set-up, and you give us a scenario?

wulfir September 7th, 2009 12:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iCaMpWiThAWP (Post 709117)
Hmmm... i don't get it very well, you mean, someone posts a set-up, and you give us a scenario?

Yes, pretty much.

The idea is to make a hybrid between a custom and a long campaign; but with more story to the campaign - more creative missions - more dangerous AI...

Roll with me iCaMp - if you could choose; what kind of campaign would you want to play?

iCaMpWiThAWP September 7th, 2009 08:19 AM

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Hmmm, in WW2 i'd be tempted to play something early in north africa, good for tanks, bad for everyone else, something about company+ and batallion, how about some action around tobruk playing the germans? about difficulty, hmm, how about win-able :D?btw, i don't have ww2 installed, i'll start downloading it now and try to finish it today in my crappy 5kb/s download speed ;D

wulfir September 7th, 2009 11:17 AM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iCaMpWiThAWP (Post 709169)
Hmmm, in WW2 i'd be tempted to play something early in north africa, good for tanks, bad for everyone else, something about company+ and batallion, how about some action around tobruk playing the germans? about difficulty, hmm, how about win-able :D?btw, i don't have ww2 installed, i'll start downloading it now and try to finish it today in my crappy 5kb/s download speed ;D

I feel your pain, I know everything about crappy internet download speed... :)

Anyways, what about this;

Player nation: Germany
Unit: Bn size Kampfgruppe(-)/5th Light Division
Theatre: North Africa
Campaign start date: April 1941 (Tobrouk Easter Offensive).
Campaign end date: unknown
Difficulty: moderate

:happy:

Skirmisher September 7th, 2009 01:00 PM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
I'd like to check this out.

Player Nation:Russia

Unit: Your call

Theatre: vs Germany

Start Date: 1943

Difficulty: Hard

iCaMpWiThAWP September 7th, 2009 02:18 PM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wulfir (Post 709187)
Quote:

Originally Posted by iCaMpWiThAWP (Post 709169)
Hmmm, in WW2 i'd be tempted to play something early in north africa, good for tanks, bad for everyone else, something about company+ and batallion, how about some action around tobruk playing the germans? about difficulty, hmm, how about win-able :D?btw, i don't have ww2 installed, i'll start downloading it now and try to finish it today in my crappy 5kb/s download speed ;D

I feel your pain, I know everything about crappy internet download speed... :)

Anyways, what about this;

Player nation: Germany
Unit: Bn size Kampfgruppe(-)/5th Light Division
Theatre: North Africa
Campaign start date: April 1941 (Tobrouk Easter Offensive).
Campaign end date: unknown
Difficulty: moderate

:happy:

Yeah, nice, i won't finish this today since shrapnel server is denying my connection attemps, so, i shall be able to play about friday, maybe earlyer if my speed cooperates :D

wulfir September 7th, 2009 04:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Skirmisher (Post 709204)
I'd like to check this out.

Player Nation:Russia

Skrimisher,

you are a Tank Battalion commander in the Soviet 15th Tank Corps, 3rd Tank Army.

It is January 1943.

Your unit belongs to the Voronezh Front and has been kept in reserve for some time. Elsewhere the battle of Stalingrad is being decided in Soviet favour. You are all itching to have a go at the Fashist invaders.

Following a series of marches under strict deception discipline your battalion reaches the area around KANTEMIROVKA. You are part of a large offensive operation, this much is clear.

January 13-14: After infantry regiments have breached the enemy front your battalion is launched into the fray to exploit success.



The Zip includes the Campaign Frame. Install files into your campaign folder. It will occupy campaign slot 025. Have a go at the scenario.

IMPORTANT: Save the game before the battle ends, ideally the very last turn BEFORE the end result screen is shown.

This is neccessary in order to add more battles to the camp.


Buy whatever core you fancy. I recommend a Tank Bn.

wulfir September 7th, 2009 04:52 PM

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[quote=iCaMpWiThAWP;709216][quote=wulfir;709187]
Quote:

Originally Posted by iCaMpWiThAWP (Post 709169)
i shall be able to play about friday, maybe earlyer if my speed cooperates :D

Roger Dodger! :)

Skirmisher September 7th, 2009 05:38 PM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wulfir (Post 709230)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skirmisher (Post 709204)
I'd like to check this out.

Player Nation:Russia

Skrimisher,

you are a Tank Battalion commander in the Soviet 15th Tank Corps, 3rd Tank Army.

It is January 1943.

Your unit belongs to the Voronezh Front and has been kept in reserve for some time. Elsewhere the battle of Stalingrad is being decided in Soviet favour. You are all itching to have a go at the Fashist invaders.

Following a series of marches under strict deception discipline your battalion reaches the area around KANTEMIROVKA. You are part of a large offensive operation, this much is clear.

January 13-14: After infantry regiments have breached the enemy front your battalion is launched into the fray to exploit success.



The Zip includes the Campaign Frame. Install files into your campaign folder. It will occupy campaign slot 025. Have a go at the scenario.

IMPORTANT: Save the game before the battle ends, ideally the very last turn BEFORE the end result screen is shown.

This is neccessary in order to add more battles to the camp.


Buy whatever core you fancy. I recommend a Tank Bn.

Understood

Campaign scenario is locked and loaded.


A Russian Tank Bn it is then.

Skirmisher September 8th, 2009 03:00 AM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
Allright this is over, and my commanding officer will not be happy.
Tough battle, thanks!

I have the game saved on turn 37, let me know if you want it posted or emailed.

wulfir September 8th, 2009 09:05 AM

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Skrimisher,

if it's not a bother send the save to wulfir@yahoo.com and I'll post the next scenario.

(Historical note: While 40th Army to the north reported good progress against the Italians, 3rd Tank Army made, in the initial stages, limited headway against XXIV. Panzerkorps ).

Skirmisher September 8th, 2009 11:48 AM

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wulfir,

I sent it to your email address.

wulfir September 8th, 2009 02:08 PM

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Skirmisher,

the battle has been very bloody, while the Germans have been dislodged from the village your force is not in condition to advance further. A handful of friendly units arrive helter skelter - you are to assume command of the defence of NOVOMARKOVKA.

German SOP is to always counterattack to regain lost ground.
At the soonest possible moment...




Battle 2

Install instructions:
1) Unzip RU_Camp_01 file.
2) add u025i001 txt file to your winSPWW2 campaign folder.
3) add spscn801.dat and spscn801.cmt to your winSPWW2 scenario folder.
4) Start up your winSPWW2 game. Edit campaign 025 RED ARMOR: The River of Steel 1943 by adding scenario 801 into node 001 (the second scenario slot).
5) Save your edit by pressing SAVE in the lower right hand side corner of the screen.
6) Save again. Make sure you have done this - if your edit (adding of next scenario) is not saved the campaign ends.



Repair what units you can repair. Deply and play.
The Motherland calls...

Skirmisher September 8th, 2009 02:31 PM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
Ok all instructions followed and I'm now seeing the new text.

Pretty cool idea you have here.

I'll begin the battle later today.

Skirmisher September 8th, 2009 02:39 PM

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These are my initial setup files for the 1st battle.

My core force consists of one battalion of T-34/76's (32)

an additional platoon of KV-1c's (3) and three motorcycle heavy infanty for scouting (3)

noxiousnic September 8th, 2009 03:41 PM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
This is a very cool concept :)
I'll have to think about what kind of dynamic campaign I'd like to tackle. Any chance you'd do the same in MBT ?
Cheers !

wulfir September 8th, 2009 04:10 PM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skirmisher (Post 709383)
I'll begin the battle later today.

Ok, very good! :)

Let me know if anything wierd happens.
Haven't really tried this thing before...

wulfir September 8th, 2009 04:14 PM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by noxiousnic (Post 709393)
This is a very cool concept :)
I'll have to think about what kind of dynamic campaign I'd like to tackle. Any chance you'd do the same in MBT ?
Cheers !

You're most welcome, Nox!

...and yeah; MBT no problem if you'd rather fancy that... :up:

wulfir September 8th, 2009 04:19 PM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
Btw Skirmisher, :pointup:

as before it's important that you save the game before the final turn in order to add more scenarios.

Skirmisher September 8th, 2009 07:32 PM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wulfir (Post 709404)
Btw Skirmisher, :pointup:

as before it's important that you save the game before the final turn in order to add more scenarios.


Understood.






__________________________________________________ ______

For anybody that might be keeping an eye on the progress of this
the first battle was tough.

Of the 32 T-34/76's ,all but 8 tanks were burning.
And of those 8 tanks, 4 had thrown treads and one was moderately damaged. 3 were left intact.

The KV-1c platton of 3 remained intact.

The 3 motorcycle heavy infantry were killed.

iCaMpWiThAWP September 8th, 2009 09:22 PM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
You had no arty, air, or inf?

Skirmisher September 8th, 2009 09:30 PM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iCaMpWiThAWP (Post 709428)
You had no arty, air, or inf?


No arty, no air, no infantry, that is correct.

I managed to scrape 8 T-34/76's together from the battalion of 32
after my repair phase.

I also managed to restock my motorcycle units.

On the setup for the next scenario now.

wulfir September 9th, 2009 01:12 AM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
Aux units can not be assigned for the first scenario of a campaign - but there should have been 450 pts to buy (non-core) support...

Skirmisher September 9th, 2009 03:09 AM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wulfir (Post 709443)
Aux units can not be assigned for the first scenario of a campaign - but there should have been 450 pts to buy (non-core) support...

If you mean the first battle, no there was 1 point (support) availible if I remember correctly.

Skirmisher September 9th, 2009 03:11 AM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
wulfir,

I didn't manage to finish tonight, got to turn 13.

Another intense battle though. I'll finish it up tomorrow.

iCaMpWiThAWP September 9th, 2009 10:33 AM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
Patched up to date, you still up wulfir?

wulfir September 9th, 2009 12:28 PM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skirmisher (Post 709453)
If you mean the first battle, no there was 1 point (support) availible if I remember correctly.

hmm..., wierd..., 450 pts is in itself very little for buying inf and art for that type of battle. You made do with 0 pts which is very good considering it is near impossible without inf/art support...

wulfir September 9th, 2009 03:32 PM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by iCaMpWiThAWP (Post 709482)
Patched up to date, you still up wulfir?

Oh yeah....:)


You're a German officer with war time experience from Poland and France. You have recently been posted away from your parent 3rd Panzer Division to a new makeshift unit known as the 5. Leichte Division.

As you come ashore in Tripoli, Libya you're tasked with commanding a Kampfgruppe for a planned move "Direction Enemy".
The senior German commander is a very impatient man. His name is Rommel.



Here is the Campaign Frame for Kampfgruppe Ikamp and the two first scenarios.

Install into your campaign folder. It will occupy campaign slot 026.

The first scenario is a 1 turn affair, no need to save the game here. The second scenario is where the fighting starts. Remember to save at the last few turns. It is best if you keep a save at the very last turn before the scenario ends.

Hals und Beinbruch!

Skirmisher September 10th, 2009 02:54 AM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
wulfir,

All done second battle. Emailed the results to you.

It was a very intense battle until about the time the light tanks arrived, then it turned in my favour.

I managed to keep all the tanks alive this time gaining valuable experience. Actully there were nine T-34/76's as one was immobilized when I started.

Those T-70's couldn't have arrived at a better time, as my infantry was basically blown away by then.

Took longer to finish but overall very fun. Thanks!

Imp September 10th, 2009 05:20 AM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
This is a neat idea hope you are still doing it when I get back.

wulfir September 10th, 2009 11:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Skirmisher (Post 709553)
All done second battle. Emailed the results to you.

Good work Skirmisher! ;)

While 40th Army to the north is making good progress against Italians and Hungarians your 3rd Tank Army is everywhere meeting stiff resistance from the German XXIV. Panzerkorps.

You are sent to get a bogged down attack on KULIKOVKA going again. Word of the savage battle at NOVOMARKOVKA is spreading withing 15th Tank Corps. At HQ you have gained something of a reputation for being steady when circumstances are the most trying.


Install instructions (same as before):
1) add txt file to your campaign folder.
2) add scenario files to your scenario folder.
3) edit campaign and add scenario 802 to node 002 of campaign 025.

It should work same as before – if not it will cause a crash to desktop…

wulfir September 10th, 2009 11:23 AM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Imp (Post 709559)
This is a neat idea hope you are still doing it when I get back.

Depends on when you get back, I guess. ;)

...if you have some vauge idea of what you'd like to play why not post it now..., I could do with a little head start I think... :)

Skirmisher September 10th, 2009 11:40 AM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wulfir (Post 709585)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skirmisher (Post 709553)
All done second battle. Emailed the results to you.

Good work Skirmisher! ;)

While 40th Army to the north is making good progress against Italians and Hungarians your 3rd Tank Army is everywhere meeting stiff resistance from the German XXIV. Panzerkorps.

You are sent to get a bogged down attack on KULIKOVKA going again. Word of the savage battle at NOVOMARKOVKA is spreading withing 15th Tank Corps. At HQ you have gained something of a reputation for being steady when circumstances are the most trying.


Install instructions (same as before):
1) add txt file to your campaign folder.
2) add scenario files to your scenario folder.
3) edit campaign and add scenario 802 to node 002 of campaign 025.

It should work same as before – if not it will cause a crash to desktop…



Ok I installed as instructed and it is crashing to desktop. :(

To bad, was looking forward to carrying on in this one.

wulfir September 10th, 2009 03:55 PM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skirmisher (Post 709588)
To bad, was looking forward to carrying on in this one.

Yeah..., I suspected it. :mad:

Tell you what..., I'll rebuild the thing from scratch, just in case something is borked with that particular scenario.

Meanwhile - maybe you could replace the Kulikovka scenario with some other random one (doesn't matter which one, or what nations) and see if the game still crashes to desktop...(sadly I suspect it will though...)

Skirmisher September 10th, 2009 09:03 PM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wulfir (Post 709632)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skirmisher (Post 709588)
To bad, was looking forward to carrying on in this one.

Yeah..., I suspected it. :mad:

Tell you what..., I'll rebuild the thing from scratch, just in case something is borked with that particular scenario.

Meanwhile - maybe you could replace the Kulikovka scenario with some other random one (doesn't matter which one, or what nations) and see if the game still crashes to desktop...(sadly I suspect it will though...)

OK I'll give it a try tomorrow. But why all of a sudden is it crashing? what is happening now that wasnt happening in that last battle?

wulfir September 11th, 2009 08:12 AM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skirmisher (Post 709668)
OK I'll give it a try tomorrow. But why all of a sudden is it crashing? what is happening now that wasnt happening in that last battle?

I'm not quite sure..., but I did some creative things to the last scenario - it was actually edited from the saved game files - and that might just be a no-go...

Skirmisher September 11th, 2009 10:08 PM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wulfir (Post 709704)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skirmisher (Post 709668)
OK I'll give it a try tomorrow. But why all of a sudden is it crashing? what is happening now that wasnt happening in that last battle?

I'm not quite sure..., but I did some creative things to the last scenario - it was actually edited from the saved game files - and that might just be a no-go...


OK it won't work with other scenario's either. It still crashes.

So logically, that second scenario is the root of it. If you want,I'm willing to start over at the beginning again. You'll just have to avoid making scenario's from savegames.

wulfir September 12th, 2009 12:33 AM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skirmisher (Post 709800)
If you want,I'm willing to start over at the beginning again. You'll just have to avoid making scenario's from savegames.

Yeah, hopefully the edited savegame is what's causeing it..., same setup as before, with regards to nation etc...? :up:

Skirmisher September 12th, 2009 01:02 AM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wulfir (Post 709803)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skirmisher (Post 709800)
If you want,I'm willing to start over at the beginning again. You'll just have to avoid making scenario's from savegames.

Yeah, hopefully the edited savegame is what's causeing it..., same setup as before, with regards to nation etc...? :up:

Yes please, Red Steel :Reloaded January 1943 start :cool:

Imp September 12th, 2009 01:09 AM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
What did you do in the first, guessing here.
Save before battle ends.
Create a new battle (Scenerio)
Add it to Campaign in Campaign manager
Continue game now when it ends checks updated Campaign Path.

If do it that way the only reason you need his game save file is to see how it went for deciding the next mission.
You can actually tailor the difficulty as you go based on what you see.

wulfir September 12th, 2009 04:07 AM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skirmisher (Post 709809)
Yes please, Red Steel :Reloaded January 1943 start :cool:

Rgr that!

Had no problems running Icamp's second scenario, so the cause was probably some conflict with the repair phase and the edited savegame...

wulfir September 12th, 2009 04:37 AM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Imp (Post 709812)
If do it that way the only reason you need his game save file is to see how it went for deciding the next mission.
You can actually tailor the difficulty as you go based on what you see.

Yes - this is the basically idea behind the campaign; as it allows for a dynamic in the progress that is virtually impossible to predict before hand.

I used the saved game because I was lazy - it already had the barb wire in place, the shell damage etc.

wulfir September 12th, 2009 04:51 AM

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Die Tommies are falling back all along the North African coast from the surprise blow by the 5. Leichte Division.

But surprise has also fallen upon the Germans, surprise at their own success.

There is a lack of fuel to sustain an offensive with all forces. Only some units can be used in the pursuit - one of these is Kampfgruppe Ikamp.

But at Agedabia the British turn to fight. And Rommel is watching.


Install instructions:
1) unzip KG_Ikamp_002
2) add txt file u026i002 to your winSPWW2 campaign folder.
3) add spscn702.cmt and spscen702.dat to your scenario (not campaign) folder.
4) Start winSPWW2 and add scenario 702 KG Ikamp 02: Agadebia to campaign node 002 of Campaign 026.
5) save (right hand side, lower screen when inside the Edit Campaign function). Don't forget to do this. ;)

Post here if you do not understand the instructions or it does not work.

Artur September 13th, 2009 01:42 PM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
Wulfir my friend can you make something like this for me too? :D

I need to think about the time frame but it would be Germans on the East Front for Sure!

Artur September 13th, 2009 05:30 PM

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Ok here it is what I have been thinking about.

10-10+ -ish scenario campaign.
Start date: 7th May 1942
End Date: 24th of December 1942
That is a Panzer Company of the IV Pz Armee taking part in Case Blue and Operation Winter Storm.
Core Size one Panzer co. see details in the attachment picture.

Many thanks in advance!

wulfir September 14th, 2009 10:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Artur (Post 710055)
Ok here it is what I have been thinking about


Artur, of course! Hope everything is OK, btw...!

Setup coming shortly! :up:

Artur September 14th, 2009 12:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wulfir (Post 710131)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Artur (Post 710055)
Ok here it is what I have been thinking about


Artur, of course! Hope everything is OK, btw...!

Setup coming shortly! :up:

Thank you! :)

wulfir September 17th, 2009 04:59 PM

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Artur,

Case Blue: Road to Stalingrad


You are a veteran tanker with a career stretching back to the pre-war Panzerwaffe. You fought as a gunner in one of the very few Panzer IV tanks of the 4th Panzer Division in the hard yet victorious days of Poland, the Low Countries and France.

By the time of OPERATION BARBAROSSA you had risen to NCO rank and command of a Panzer. During the drive on Moscow you were forced to assume command of a tank platoon and eventually a reduced tank company. Wounded in November 1941 you have spent the last few months in Germany during convalescence and officer training.

Despite attempts at being posted back to the 4th Panzer Division you have been sent to Panzer Regiment 36 of the 14th Panzer Division where you are to lead a Panzer company in southern Russia. A large strategic offensive is about to start.



Files will use campaign slot 027.

All tank leaders of your Panzer Kompanie have been named after decorated officers of the actual PzRgt 36 and Stab/14. PzDiv.

gila September 17th, 2009 06:49 PM

Re: Dynamic Campaign: Volunteers Wanted
 
Oh this good,I get more scenerios to play.

I like the one in N.Africa.

wulfir, keep up the excellent work! you are very talented.


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