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Pazam November 21st, 2009 11:05 PM

Problem Viewing Full Screen in XP
 
I've been playing WINSPMBT for quite a while, and all of a sudden when I am in full screen mode the image is distorted. I tried reinstalling the game but nothing changed. Is there an eay fix for this?

Mobhack November 22nd, 2009 06:11 AM

Re: Problem Viewing Full Screen in XP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pazam (Post 719128)
I've been playing WINSPMBT for quite a while, and all of a sudden when I am in full screen mode the image is distorted. I tried reinstalling the game but nothing changed. Is there an eay fix for this?

1) What has changed on your machine. Any new programs installed, like the Avast anti-virus as mentioned in the sticky threads in this and the MBT forums on graphics problems?. Changed your video card or updated your drivers?. (On the rare occasions this happens now on my machine with Avast installed, then a simple reboot of the box usually works to reset the palette).

2) You probably mean the psychedelic screens, where windows sometimes messes with the 256 colour palette. Try the Game Guide -> Tuning Your Machine -> Full Screen Mode section.

3) If it persists, then (if you have the CD version) then simply select windowed mode. Set the screen resolution to larger than your screen size (especially with wide screen non standard 4:3 aspect ratio monitors), and it will use the screen size less the windows task bar. Ensure you are not using the "auto-hide" feature!. Then tune your mouse scroll sensitivity zone for the size of the task bar, if you have problems with the mouse scroll at the bottom of the screen.


Cheers
Andy

Wdll November 22nd, 2009 10:37 AM

Re: Problem Viewing Full Screen in XP
 
If you have any media players, turn them off before you start the game. Same for web browsers with pages that have flash or other plug ins that play video.

DRG November 22nd, 2009 03:53 PM

Re: Problem Viewing Full Screen in XP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pazam (Post 719128)
I've been playing WINSPMBT for quite a while, and all of a sudden when I am in full screen mode the image is distorted. I tried reinstalling the game but nothing changed. Is there an easy fix for this?

You've changed something on your computer otherwise it wouldn't just start doing this all on it's own. Reinstalling the game proved it wasn't directly game related so you'll need to figure out what changed between the time this didn't happen and when it did.

One solution may be to simply switch to windowed mode. I never run full screen, always windowed mode right from the very start.

We included both modes because at the time with all the different OS and computer set ups this offered the best way to ensure virtually everyone would find one mode to suit them best. Unfortunately what has happened is " full screen" is being treated as the primary way to play the game and that was never the intent when we set up both modes. If one mode works better on your machine than the other then that's the mode you should be using for your machine. Full screen is NOT the mode players should be using if they develop problems like this


Don

RightDeve November 23rd, 2009 01:29 AM

Re: Problem Viewing Full Screen in XP
 
The only thing I don't like about Windowed mode is it's screen scrolling. I used to scroll the screen using mouse, not keyboard (and I believe most people too). In Windowed mode, I should care much about the cursor position when at the edge of the game screen in order to scroll smoothly. So I think full screen is the more loved one.

Wdll November 23rd, 2009 01:34 AM

Re: Problem Viewing Full Screen in XP
 
yeah, plus for me, I prefer for the game I play to have my full attention than to have other things going on on the sides of the game, more for the immersion factor than anything else.

RightDeve November 23rd, 2009 01:42 AM

Re: Problem Viewing Full Screen in XP
 
Only if the screen scrolling problem fixed I would choose Windowed problem, since it allows me to go into some sort of "tactical disposition" drawing programs, and other useful stuffs out there to enhance my current game experience (WWII military encyclopedia for example)

Wdll November 23rd, 2009 02:01 AM

Re: Problem Viewing Full Screen in XP
 
Well if the guy has to choose between windowed mode and no mode...

but I am willing to bet that the problem lies with something other that the game.

Imp November 23rd, 2009 05:17 AM

Re: Problem Viewing Full Screen in XP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RightDeve (Post 719262)
The only thing I don't like about Windowed mode is it's screen scrolling. I used to scroll the screen using mouse, not keyboard (and I believe most people too). In Windowed mode, I should care much about the cursor position when at the edge of the game screen in order to scroll smoothly. So I think full screen is the more loved one.

take a few minutes to set it up in game options, cant remember what its called but obvious edge sensitivity or something. Might take a couple of goes to get right but its sorted then.

Mobhack November 23rd, 2009 07:49 AM

Re: Problem Viewing Full Screen in XP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RightDeve (Post 719262)
The only thing I don't like about Windowed mode is it's screen scrolling. I used to scroll the screen using mouse, not keyboard (and I believe most people too). In Windowed mode, I should care much about the cursor position when at the edge of the game screen in order to scroll smoothly. So I think full screen is the more loved one.

Please read:

Game Guide -> Tuning Your Machine -> Map Scroll Sensitivity Zone
and just after that:
Game Guide -> Tuning Your Machine -> Scroll Speed

And possibly the last paragraph in the section may apply, ie about how not to trigger an unintended scroll.

(Also see Game Guide -> Running WinSPMBT(WinSPWW2) -> Game Options Tab 2 (misc) for a picture of the relevant game Options screen)

Cheers
Andy

iCaMpWiThAWP November 23rd, 2009 07:54 AM

Re: Problem Viewing Full Screen in XP
 
Increase your Map Scroll Sensitivity, misc tab, i think its the first

DRG November 23rd, 2009 09:32 AM

Re: Problem Viewing Full Screen in XP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RightDeve (Post 719266)
Only if the screen scrolling problem fixed I would choose Windowed problem, since it allows me to go into some sort of "tactical disposition" drawing programs, and other useful stuffs out there to enhance my current game experience (WWII military encyclopedia for example)


Don't you think if there was a "screen scrolling problem" it would have been fixed by now given it's the only way I play ??

See Andys answer above. The only "problem" is you need to correctly set up the scrolling based on your PC

Don

RightDeve November 23rd, 2009 02:08 PM

Re: Problem Viewing Full Screen in XP
 
Oh yeah, forgot that point... Never stumbled so far upon the so called pre-game-launch-setup things. For now full screen is still a preferred method though. But, can you tell me what is beyond that Windowed mode thing that makes you tend to use it more over the full-screen mode? Developer preference?

Imp November 23rd, 2009 04:35 PM

Re: Problem Viewing Full Screen in XP
 
Playing in a window lets you keep track of things without ALT tabing, quick flick to see how that programs running in the background plus without switching you can select tracks on your MP3 player see your email notifications & the clock so your better half does not lynch you.

Imp November 23rd, 2009 07:45 PM

Re: Problem Viewing Full Screen in XP
 
Just a thought as its a pallette problem both XP & Vista have a thing to set properties for a specific program, right click the icon & select properties I think then whatever its called diffrent name on each system typical Micr.... Lets you turn some things off & run in a 256 colour pallette which I woulld think is whats used anyway.

DRG November 24th, 2009 08:46 AM

Re: Problem Viewing Full Screen in XP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RightDeve (Post 719334)
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But, can you tell me what is beyond that Windowed mode thing that makes you tend to use it more over the full-screen mode? Developer preference?

98% of the time I'm in the game it's for development and I need access to other programs that are running and at any one time that could mean the game, paint Shop Pro, a text editor, outlook express, internet explorer , windows explorer and sometimes Borland C++ builder. I have, on occasion, had all that AND both winSPWW2 and winSPMBT running but that is rare and never for long.

That's with a 7 year old computer running XP

The game generally works better in windowed mode in 99% of the cases where full screen is an issue . The only issue I have with full screen is the palette is slightly off with all colours shifted a bit to red and magenta so not only does full screen not allow me easy access to these other programs while I play or test it doesn't give me optimal colour either. Andy doesn't have the palette issue on his machine but he's using a different graphics card.

Don

Lt. Ketch November 25th, 2009 12:03 PM

Re: Problem Viewing Full Screen in XP
 
In windows mode, I have had the problem of moving the cursur to the left and it scrolling to the right. It happens randomly (as far as I can see). Has anybody else had this problem? Is there a fix in place? If not, don't stay up trying to find one.

Mobhack November 25th, 2009 12:44 PM

Re: Problem Viewing Full Screen in XP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lt. Ketch (Post 719606)
In windows mode, I have had the problem of moving the cursur to the left and it scrolling to the right. It happens randomly (as far as I can see). Has anybody else had this problem? Is there a fix in place? If not, don't stay up trying to find one.

You are the first to ever mention such a thing.

If it were common, then folks would have been complaining out the wazoo about it, methinks.

So - I suspect your PC's setup.

Andy

Imp November 25th, 2009 05:12 PM

Re: Problem Viewing Full Screen in XP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lt. Ketch (Post 719606)
In windows mode, I have had the problem of moving the cursur to the left and it scrolling to the right. It happens randomly (as far as I can see). Has anybody else had this problem? Is there a fix in place? If not, don't stay up trying to find one.

I have had the same problem but across the board not restricted to ne program, it was the mouses pre death cry.

Warwick November 26th, 2009 04:11 PM

Re: Problem Viewing Full Screen in XP
 
Just to add my $0.02c worth:- Multi-tasking is where Linux has a real advantage over windows, you can have up to 16 desktops each costing about 1 meg of RAM to run and switch between them with a mouse click.

Regards,
Warwick


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