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Immaculate December 16th, 2009 11:10 PM

Old mages and Blood Nations
 
Why do people always advocate using boots of youth and not rejuvination?

i.

vfb December 16th, 2009 11:17 PM

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How old are your mages?

Trumanator December 16th, 2009 11:19 PM

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Because boots of youth are cheaper? And can be put on any old mage, unlike rejuv which obviously only works on someone who can cast it. Plus its less micro since you can just have 1 or 2 guys forging them.

Quitti December 17th, 2009 12:28 AM

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indeed. And boots of youth cost less if you are using hammer, lasts indefinitely (though if you're on the verge of old age the rejuv will last for the rest of the game). Only way i'd see rejuv worth casting over boots is that you really need to use other feet slot items (earth boots) or if you really really really want to get rid of the old age maluses such as lowered precision.

Frozen Lama December 17th, 2009 01:15 AM

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or if you have no feet. which is very unlikely

Quitti December 17th, 2009 02:35 AM

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True. Vans spring to mind, though they are maxage 1000...

FAJ December 17th, 2009 08:17 AM

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You can get to rejuvenate faster than boots (at least in CBM afaik). I sometimes will use rejuvenate on a Warlock with good picks if construction6 will take longer to get to than the next winter. It is fairly situational though.

SlipperyJim December 17th, 2009 10:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trumanator (Post 722234)
And can be put on any old mage, unlike rejuv which obviously only works on someone who can cast it.

Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner! Boots of Youth work for all of your old mages, not just your old Blood mages. :)

Also, Boots of Youth provide a small amount of reinvigoration. Yes, Boots of the Messenger are better for reinvig, but Boots of Youth are a multitasker.

earcaraxe March 18th, 2010 01:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trumanator (Post 722234)
Because boots of youth are cheaper? And can be put on any old mage, unlike rejuv which obviously only works on someone who can cast it. Plus its less micro since you can just have 1 or 2 guys forging them.

but do they get any younger? i guess if if my 70 years old PotS gets some boots, he still will be 70, inst he? and get diseased eventualy? right?

thejeff March 18th, 2010 01:12 PM

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He stays 70, but gets no afflictions from old age.

Starshine_Monarch March 18th, 2010 01:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by earcaraxe (Post 736098)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Trumanator (Post 722234)
Because boots of youth are cheaper? And can be put on any old mage, unlike rejuv which obviously only works on someone who can cast it. Plus its less micro since you can just have 1 or 2 guys forging them.

but do they get any younger? i guess if if my 70 years old PotS gets some boots, he still will be 70, inst he? and get diseased eventualy? right?

Actually no he won't. Despite still having stat penalties because of Old age, your mage will not get any new afflictions because of it. This is another reason it's a good pick over Rejuv, because a lot of times you need multiple castings of it to be completely safe from further afflictions.

Edit: Ninja'd

FAJ March 18th, 2010 02:44 PM

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Thats the main reason I rarely use rejuv. Most of the mages I want to be protected are more than 10 years over the limit.

I would probably use it more often if it set the casters age to 18, or something of that nature.

Olive March 24th, 2010 06:26 AM

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Are you sure that boots of youth prevent afflictions and not only aging ? I'm almost sure I had some warlocks who caught diseases with boots on. I'll try again. With Abysia, I usually used both rejuvenate and boots on Warlocks. A bit overkill but I sent them bloodhunting to cover the expenses. :rolleyes:

FAJ March 24th, 2010 01:52 PM

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They may have caught diseases from some other means.

After many many games with Abysia, I have found the correlation between BoY and not catching diseases to be convincing enough to count on them as reliable.

Edi March 24th, 2010 02:02 PM

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There are so many mechanisms for getting disease that it's not funny. If you got toad rained, that's 5% disease chance right there for every occurrence. Sites, certain units in province, getting hit in combat (even a regular affliction from a battle may be disease) etc, all are possible culprits. I've never gotten any midwinter afflictions for any mage wearing BoY.

Stretch March 25th, 2010 09:28 PM

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I had a Vanjarl get stuck with an amulet of lycanthropy and eventually become a 500 year old skinshifter. Massive old age penalties, but he lasted 12+ months with no afflictions!


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