blood sacrifice newbie question
 

Hello. Newbie question again :)
Hired VanJarl, got some slaves. Started to do blood sacrifice in home province. Initially dominion level was 4. It still remains 4, and VanJarl is still in state of sacrificing. Why it's not increasing? Is my dominion level is limited by initial dominion maximum level selected during pretender desin?

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Max dom in a province = (starting dom + (temples /5 )), with a maximum of 10. Random events can bump you over your max.

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So by sacrificing I can only increase it to this max?

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Right, until you build more temples.

But, sacrificing will cause dominion to spread out to other provinces, so it's still worthwhile.

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Oh yeah, if you can preach, you can preach over your dom limit too. The 'max' above is only for dom spread (temples/god/prophet/cap/dom spread units), not for preaching.

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but max dom from preaching is H level, plus one if temple in province, right? that's not going to go far.

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This point is very important, and it's easy to miss. Dominion spread in a province that already has max dominion will "flow" out to other provinces.

Think of provinces as an ice cube tray. (Link provided in case anyone has forgotten what an ice cube tray looks like.) When one cube is filled to capacity, water will start to flow into the neighboring cubes. When you're filling an ice cube tray, you can simply pour the water into one cube, and the "flow" will take care of filling the entire tray.

In much the same way, dominion spread in a province that already has max dominion will "flow" out to neighboring provinces. If those provinces are also at max dominion, then the "flow" will continue until it reaches a province that is below the max. Please note that this principle does not apply to dominion gained through preaching. Preachers only affect the dominion score in provinces where they are actually preaching. However, it applies to all other forms of dominion spread, including:

• temple checks
• your Pretender
• your prophet
• blood sacrifice

Other types of dominion spread, such as juggernauts, can also influence neighboring provinces. Basically, it applies to everything except preaching.

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That's why dominion spreading is a good way to kill low level dominion enemies.

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Except it doesn't work like an ice cube tray. Dominion can jump over any province which has friendly dominion. It doesn't have to be full.

This can be observed easily by starting a new game with dom 10. You never have to wait for the dom in a province to reach 10 before it 'spills over' into the adjoining ones.

That said it is /more likely/ to spill over once provinces are at full dominion, because it has nowhere else to go.

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If it's not outdated, the manual provides a specific formula for this: the chance of a dom increase in a province which has already friendly dominion is
30%-(3%*X)
where X is the current dom level of the province. If that chance fails, it "spills" to a neighbouring province, where it attempts again.

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Oh ... hmmm ... thanks for clarifying, Sombre.

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Are you sure that that formula is right? I dont remember it being like that.
Im not home so i cant check.
Perhaps you are reading about preaching where there is 30% (or it was 20%) per level of the priest.

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On the other hand. Perhaps it should be said that with a dominion score of 4 there`s only 40% chance of dominion increase per sacrifice(each like a temple check).

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I took it directly from page 93 of the manual, so unless it was changed in a recent patch, it should be correct.

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You have a lot of faith in the manual's descriptions of technical details being right. I don't *know* that this particular formula is wrong, but I do know that the manula gets lots of technical aspects wrong. I wouldn't take any of the manual's specific claims about mechanics at face value - consider it no more reliable (and possibly less reliable) than a somewhat experienced player's impression of how the game works.

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Maximum level you can reach by preaching is : (2 * holy level) + 1

You get a malus when you preach in ennemy dominion, alleviated by the inquisitor bonus.

With holy 3 priests preaching in your dominion, you can be very hard to domkill, even with a relatively low dominion value.

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Unless you've got inquisitor bonus. Ulm's Iron Priests get a potential 5H for preaching in temples, and Marignon can get 7H, and possibly 9H.

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Humakty has it right. H3's can bring your dominion up to 7 at a temple. Inquisitor bonus does not affect the max dominion you can create in a province by preaching.

But even if you have 20H3s at a temple, the preaching happens before dom spread and the check for dom death. So they bump up your dominion to 7, but if there are net 7 successful enemy dom spread temple checks against that province, it's still dom death.

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Yep. That's why you can't just preach defend your cap - you should also preach defend other forted templed locations. By spreading those priests out amongst 4-5 provs, you can still prevent dom death even against crazy amounts of spread.