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Torin February 4th, 2010 11:12 AM

Multiera Mithril Might (Started)
 
MP game at Llamaserver PBEM
mmight2 page at llamaserver

:ham:Mods
Single age Complete (original mod)
(Make a copy of your SingleAgeComplete.dm and rename it to "Single Age mod.dm". It is llamaserver problem with multiage games.) :pointright: Link to edited single age mod for use with llamaserver
:pointright: CBM 1.6
:pointright: Streamers & Standards

:world:Map
:pointright:Alexander (No Sites)
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/uploa...er%20Thumb.png


:argue:Diplomacy

Treaties are private & exclusive inside the signers.
An other option is to make it public in the thread when it's signed to avoid future discussions if theres a pact-break you have some record.

No special conditions or house rules
if you are playing for fun (and to win the game) you are welcome.


:aol:Players
(Names are actually links tought to private message regarding diplomacy)

Tollund - MA Rlyeh
BigDaddy - LA Mictlan
Torin - EA Acrocephale
Militarist - EA Hinnom
anonymity - LA Bogarus
Festin - MA Ermor
Ghoul31 - EA Niefelheim
Meglobob - EA Malverni
Cicero - MA Oceania
Krec - MA Marignon
13lackGu4rd - EA Lanka
Zeldor (replaced by cleveland)- MA Pythium
Baalz - EA Fomoria

Tollund February 4th, 2010 12:01 PM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (recruiting players)
 
MA R'lyeh for me.

BigDaddy February 4th, 2010 02:12 PM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (recruiting players)
 
I'd like to try LA Mictlan.

Yes, I'm playing for fun.

Torin February 4th, 2010 07:31 PM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (recruiting players)
 
edited first post. Links added.
I think ill ban LA Ermor & Rlieh

militarist February 5th, 2010 01:35 AM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (recruiting players)
 
Ea Hinnom

anonymity February 5th, 2010 06:37 AM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (recruiting players)
 
LA Bogarus please

Sombre February 5th, 2010 06:46 AM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (recruiting players)
 
I thought llamaserver was unable to deal with mods that have spaces in the filenames?

Torin February 5th, 2010 07:32 AM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (recruiting players)
 
let me check. because i played like this before. maybe its with _

Festin February 5th, 2010 08:39 AM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (recruiting players)
 
MA Ermor please.

ghoul31 February 5th, 2010 08:45 AM

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Niefelheim

BigDaddy February 5th, 2010 11:40 AM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (recruiting players)
 
I don't know what mod they use, what they have is a switch were you select age, and you select 'multi' so you might need to check (with someone as to) which mod it uses when you select 'multi' from the setup pulldown menu.

Meglobob February 5th, 2010 11:59 AM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (recruiting players)
 
I will give Ea Marverni another go, probably won't last long vs some of the nations already choosen but heh-ho...:)

Torin February 5th, 2010 12:39 PM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (recruiting players)
 
yes i dont check any mod for multiage when i create the game at llama.
just select multiage.
but the players must enable a mod while creating pretender tough.
its the one I outlined. I have that already done for the procyon game i played.
but let me see my mod folder later today for details. I think its the renaming thing i said in the first post.

BigDaddy February 5th, 2010 04:08 PM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (recruiting players)
 
It might work best if you just upload your copy right here, then we can skip any drama. Then we can all use it "as you have it."

Torin February 5th, 2010 05:12 PM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (recruiting players)
 
1 Attachment(s)
Its as i said. Check the past threads

Procyon Game

Madness game

Im willing to wait a bit longer to get some more players in. I would like a bigger game.

Cicero February 6th, 2010 07:33 AM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (recruiting players)
 
MA Caelum for me :)

Krec February 7th, 2010 02:39 PM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (recruiting players)
 
MA Marignon

13lackGu4rd February 7th, 2010 02:58 PM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (recruiting players)
 
Lanka for me please

Torin February 8th, 2010 08:34 AM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (recruiting players)
 
Now we are 11 we could start. My only concern is that we have only 1 water nation. I think that at least 1 more water nation is needed.
Maybe one of us could switch to water or maybe Tollund can switch to land.
I am willing to switch if no one else does.

Zeldor February 8th, 2010 08:59 AM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (recruiting players)
 
Can I join? I think I have one slot free now after exams :)

P.S. Isn't it better to ask only water nation to switch to land nation and play it land-only? The more I play, the more I feel that water nations make every game less interesting and more static.

Torin February 8th, 2010 09:23 AM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (recruiting players)
 
certainly you can join. Since this is multiera theres room for many players.
Tollund is the one that has to decide about wn.
Water nations are not as game brakers as LA Ermor or Rlieh as fishies have trouble invading land nations.
But if theres only 1 then...

Zeldor February 8th, 2010 09:42 AM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (recruiting players)
 
ok, MA Pythium for me, pretender ready

Water nations are not game breaking, they just make game more static, as it's hard to do diplomacy with them, invade them properly or get properly invaded. But well, just my opinion :)

Cicero February 8th, 2010 10:19 AM

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I can switch to MA Oceania!

Torin February 8th, 2010 10:28 AM

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Switched!

Torin February 8th, 2010 10:43 AM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (recruiting players)
 
Well ill see maps later today, say in 10 hours.
Then ill create the game so theres some time for further recruiting
and i expect to have the game created today at llamaserver.
(today in my GMT -3 hour that is)

Torin February 8th, 2010 11:34 AM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (recruiting players)
 
What about this one? (the wraparound)

Icy Urraparrand v2

Cicero February 8th, 2010 12:01 PM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (recruiting players)
 
Have a look at these, I found them in the Llamaserver list:

Antilarium

Epotara

Torin February 8th, 2010 12:15 PM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (recruiting players)
 
Antilarium has only 12 water prov. And Epotara is too big.
I am aiming to 150 land and 30 water to match 15 prov per player

Festin February 8th, 2010 12:41 PM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (recruiting players)
 
Sorry, I do not usually use mods other than CBM, so I'll ask just in case: all I need is do get the mods from links in the first post, and it will work fine, right? Or I need to edit something (as mentioned later in the thread)?

Cicero February 8th, 2010 12:56 PM

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Well, in Llamaserver says that Antilarium is a 182 land + 35 sea.

Anyway with the specified condition, there is only urraparound and a random map called Etruscae, that is a 158 land + 22 sea.

Torin February 8th, 2010 01:09 PM

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Yes, the age mod must be renamed while you create pretender.
its the name i said in the first post. Its attached to a post in 2 page. Ill link that one to the first post so you have all the mods together.
CBM is the same as usual.
Streamers must be copied into the mods folder but not necesary during pretender creation.

Baalz February 8th, 2010 01:11 PM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (recruiting players)
 
I've been wanting to take Fomoria out for a spin and this looks like a good high powered game to do so.

Torin February 8th, 2010 02:46 PM

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Antilarium looks nice but has only 9 land starting locations.
With no fixed starting locations Uraparrand is risky.
Is it a chance that a nation would start with too few neighbours?
Like 2 neighbours?

Zeldor February 8th, 2010 03:28 PM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (recruiting players)
 
Uraparrand is not not balanced. And it does not support any water nations.

Cicero February 8th, 2010 03:31 PM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (recruiting players)
 
Well in the user-added map there is Alexander for 15 player

It has:
Quote:

247 land + 43 sea.
Fixed start positions: 13 land starts and 2 sea starts.
Download link
Alexander map with balanced predefined locations for 15 players (13 + 2)
Actually we are 13(11 land + 2 water) I think this would fit.


Or, Glory of the Gods (multiplayer) has:
Quote:

227 land + 47 sea.
No fixed starts.

Torin February 8th, 2010 10:18 PM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (recruiting players)
 
1 Attachment(s)
This is the map for the game:
Imperial lakelands. I updated the first post. This file is different to the original because llamaserver wouldnt accept the old name.

I like the map. The only downside is that the provinces are too small.
I can change the settings and the map before kickstarting so everyone send pretenders and checkout the map.

Torin February 8th, 2010 10:56 PM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (Upload pretenders)
 
1 Attachment(s)
Ignore the previous map (lakelands)
Had to fix start positions so islands are no start

this is the corrected map

Zeldor February 9th, 2010 10:33 AM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (Upload pretenders)
 
Hmm... may be brutal for land nations. Water ones have sweet spot. There was not more balanced map? Wraparound? People in corners will have nice game.

Torin February 9th, 2010 10:45 AM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (Upload pretenders)
 
Yes, problably not optimal. Im open to suggestions. The maps Cicero proposed are too big i think. Better a map with water connected. If its wrapped, the better. 15 or a bit more provinces per player.

We can change the map while uploading pretenders. Just we cant once we start the game.

BigDaddy February 9th, 2010 11:23 AM

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My initial readtion was that it was brutal for some players, especially if they get a spot right next to a water player. I don't know if all the land spots are defined, but there is one with only a 1 province gap between. I was immediately fighting over that province. I don't mean its a no go, and the size is destined to produce excitement, if some early rush deaths as well.

Festin February 9th, 2010 11:48 AM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (Upload pretenders)
 
What about Orania? Wraparound and enough space.

Zeldor February 9th, 2010 11:54 AM

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It contains some special provs with uber guys or great recruitables that throw the balance totally off. It'd be cool without those sites or if they were evenly distributed.

BigDaddy February 9th, 2010 12:16 PM

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nvm, I was thinking Alexander.

Torin February 9th, 2010 12:19 PM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (Upload pretenders)
 
yes, 23 provinces per land player is not ubber big. Only a bit slower start.
not all that bad.
im ok with that one now i think of.

BigDaddy February 9th, 2010 12:26 PM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (Upload pretenders)
 
If we go with one of the maps that has a lot of impassible divisions, then the wraparound and corners wouldn't be as important. Like the Cradle of Dominions (199-22) or Glory of the God (multiplayer) (227-47). Both are larger than 15 provinces/nation, and the first has a significant shortage of water. GotG is 20 provinces/nation.

Maybe Glory of the Gods (multiplayer)?

Torin February 9th, 2010 12:30 PM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (Upload pretenders)
 
nice looking map GoG. Though the 2 seas are separated.

BigDaddy February 9th, 2010 12:36 PM

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I'm not really sure that would matter. One is 13 provinces and the other 24. The 13 providence one has the nicer places to put into land. Maybe having 24 in your ocean would be that great? Maybe you'd just assume have 13 to yourself. Or maybe just connect 179 and 91?

Zeldor February 9th, 2010 12:36 PM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (Upload pretenders)
 
Aren't 2 water starts in that bigger lake? At least they should be. Or you could make them be.

anonymity February 9th, 2010 12:37 PM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (Upload pretenders)
 
Anything goes for me. Although some variety would be nice, so I'm not mad-keen on maps included with the game.

Torin February 9th, 2010 05:49 PM

Re: Multiera Mithril Might (Upload pretenders)
 
Well to get sure I changed the map to something better tested: Alexander (no sites).
So no library in alexandria, etc.

Imperial lakelands is good looking but would require a resize of te image and set several provinces as no start. In the test games ive seen its possible to a starting point with 2 neighbours.

If i had more time i would get a random map with some provinces at no start. That is always fine.

Some players are yet to submit pretenders tough.


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