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WraithLord March 11th, 2010 10:38 AM
New HoF brain storm
 
Hi, As you may know Tyrant hasn't logged in quite a long time and the HoF is in disrepair.
I volunteered to take this hot potato to hand :doh:

I'd like to use this opportunity to hear any ideas you may have for improving the format.

In any case I will not be doing manual updates of the HoF statistics. I plan to dump all the data to a DB and write a program to generate the report. I will then post the updated reports.

I can do all this myself but it will slow me down. So help, even from one brave soul, would be greatly appreciated. No programming skills are required.

Bring it on. Now's the time to talk :)

Belac March 11th, 2010 11:15 AM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
If it's in a DB, you can set it up to sort by types of game. So it could be broken out by era, size of game, wacky rules, # of players, etc.

WraithLord March 11th, 2010 12:46 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
I don't want full blown DB.
I want a human readable, none XML, text file. I'll implement data access and logic myself.

Gandalf Parker March 11th, 2010 12:51 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
I appreciate that. Text files can be used by other programs more easily. Or one of the old "db" standards such as a text file with commas between each item. Many programs can import and export CDF (comma delimited file"

WraithLord March 11th, 2010 12:54 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
That's the format, ex:
[
Winner: Jazzepi
Game: Epiphany
Game Link: http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...b=5&o=&fpart=1
Players: 11
Nation: LA T'ien Ch'i
Mods: Well guarded neutral Emor citadels as VPs
Era: Late
]

[
Winner: Calmon
Game: the Quick and the Dead
Game Link: unknown
Players: unknown
Nation: LA Ermor
Mods: unknown
Era: unknown
]

The parser is almost ready. It doesn't care much for white spaces and it's flexible so I can adapt it quickly to changes.
I'm using Python btw, Perl would've got the job done faster but I wanted a tidy OO program and not a quick and dirty perl voodoo.

Psycho March 11th, 2010 01:02 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
I tried writing a parser in Ruby some time ago to parse the thread and get the HoF statistics, but it proved to be not so easy. The problem is that you don't have a standard format for posts. Also some player names are written in two or three different variants - with and without capital letters, with and without spaces, etc. You'll probably have to enter a lot of data manually.

And if you're doing it, well then XML is probably the best way. You can easily write an XSLT to transform it to a human readable html file for example.

WraithLord March 11th, 2010 01:28 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
Some old posts are missing almost all information so it's mandatory to extract that info from the game thread.

However you see it there's just no way to avoid manually building the DB. If I get help in this it will cut the time to completion by half. Otherwise my plan is to complete the report gen. engine and then get to manually feeding the DB. It's not that bad, mind you, most of the posts are compatible with my parser (just add [ and ] lines with simple awk/sed script or by hand), so it's down to copy/paste.

Hadrian_II March 11th, 2010 03:50 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WraithLord (Post 735137)
I don't want full blown DB.
I want a human readable, none XML, text file. I'll implement data access and logic myself.
whats wrong with XML? i think there are free XML libs out for every programming language. If you use XML you dont have to write a custom parser for a custom format (what in my opinion just sounds like unnecessary work).

Quote:
Originally Posted by WraithLord (Post 735145)
However you see it there's just no way to avoid manually building the DB. If I get help in this it will cut the time to completion by half. Otherwise my plan is to complete the report gen. engine and then get to manually feeding the DB. It's not that bad, mind you, most of the posts are compatible with my parser (just add [ and ] lines with simple awk/sed script or by hand), so it's down to copy/paste.
Why not create a simple web form, and fill the db with the input. I suppose it is not harder for players to report victory to a webpage, than to a forum post.

Trumanator March 11th, 2010 04:12 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
I think making it a non XML is a good idea, simply because it makes it easier to access quickly.

WraithLord March 11th, 2010 04:16 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
KISS.

I don't want XML. I personally don't care much for it. It has it's uses of course but IMO it's useful for higher caliber projects, like defining protocols or modeling etc. For simple game report DB it's a bit more than what's required.

Of course both your ideas can work. They'll require a bit more work than what I had in mind that's all. If anyone wants to bring to the table an end product that does the DB/report generation magic then I'm all for that. Go for it :)

For now I'll stick with my plan. It's simple to fill (no change to current report). Simple to copy to DB. Simple to export. yata yata.

I appreciate and respect the advice given but I'm not convinced. It's a very small use case and I don't see any need to go overboard.

I want to bring to discussion another aspect. Not technical.
I don't think the current ranking system makes much sense in the way it factors wins against magnitude.
Ex:
player A won 3 games of 6 players each.
player B won 2 games of 20 players each.
The current system would put A above B. I don't think it makes sense. Player B has won much bigger games, defeated more opponents and invested much more time. Am I missing something here?

Trumanator March 11th, 2010 04:22 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
Well what if player A's games were invite only experts games? The HoF is a very imprecise system, and at best provides guidelines for who is good/lucky and who isn't. Trying to quantify and qualify everything is just setting up for frustration.

Gandalf Parker March 11th, 2010 04:59 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
What if a game is big-map and the winner was basically the one who could stand out the most against late-game MM?

Its better than nothing. It does help for the discussions that toss out absolutes without qualifying them. Such as xxxxx can never win, or xxxxx always loses. (nations, not people). Its nice to see the spread.

But its never going to replace a real ladder system which has been discussed elsewhere. And even those arent perfect. To get even close to a ladder system the games would all have to be duels with the same game settings (map, mods, etc)

vfb March 11th, 2010 05:47 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
The HoF is an evil abomination that causes people to gankfest and min/max instead of having fun. IMVHO.

WraithLord March 11th, 2010 06:08 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
Good points. I agree with them all.
That said, I'm under the impression most players want HoF. If I'm mistaken and most agree with you vfb then I'll drop the ball. My objective is to do this as a service to the community. I'm very far from advocating for HoF myself.

vfb March 11th, 2010 06:32 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
Of course everyone wants it! That's why everyone gankfests and min/max-es. :)

djo March 11th, 2010 06:32 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
You might (either for this or some other project) look into JSON as a lightweight persistence format (www.json.org). Your data looks a lot like a dictionary, and JSON will do that fine. There's a parser module in the Python stdlib since 2.6.

I offer this as a tip from another Pythonista, not to try to influence you to change your mind on your current format. I've liked JSON when I wanted something more than key-value but less than XML.

Gandalf Parker March 11th, 2010 07:05 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
As I said, it does serve a purpose. My impression is that people like to post their wins somewhere (for the first few months anyway). With many new people coming in its probably a worthy service. Its kindof a graffitti wall to show they progressed from the "Introduce Yourself" thread to the "Hall of Fame" for their first few wins.

As for cleaning it up.. Id like the data to be made neat. Id love to see it run thru a charting program even if the data isnt totally scientific. But it might not be worth that much effort.

WraithLord March 21st, 2010 10:33 AM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
status update:
Things were coming up nicely. I had completed the data gathering layer. Now all I'm missing is to write the report generator.
Unfortunately mother nature has hit me with the flu and when I was finally able to crawl out of bad and get to the office my boss has hit me with tons of burning issues. I thus foretell that I'd be seriously slowed down this week.

I would like to ask again who would like to participate in setting up and maintaining the new HoF. A 2nd hand would allow to get to a working HoF much faster.

Hadrian_II March 26th, 2010 09:59 AM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
i can help you if you want, just contact me with whatever i can do for you

WraithLord March 26th, 2010 01:03 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
Hadrian_II, thank you for your generous offer to help.
I'm about 60% done and there's a task in which you can greatly help. Please send me your email address and I'll send you the details.

WraithLord April 7th, 2010 10:36 AM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
Progress Update:

-> Hadrian_II is filling the DB. So far he has entered the first 6 pages of the HoF.

-> Code for parsing the DB and generating the players HoF is ready. Next are nations wins per era and finishes for pretty prints.
here's an ugly sample of the current debug prints running on current DB:

Code:
2010-04-07 17:26:15,099 dom3_hof_mgr DEBUG Player 1 in list:
Player Info:
Name: Micah
Number of Victories: 3
Number of Defeated Nations: 45
Nations won with: {'EA Helheim': 1, 'LA Marignon': 1, 'MA Shinuyama': 1}
Victories per era: {'EA': 1, 'MA': 1, 'LA': 1}
Victories URLs: {'Undertow': 'unknown', 'Tempest': 'unknown', 'The End of time': 'unknown'}

2010-04-07 17:26:15,099 dom3_hof_mgr DEBUG Player 2 in list:
Player Info:
Name: Jurri
Number of Victories: 2
Number of Defeated Nations: 33
Nations won with: {'EA Caelum': 1, 'LA Mictlan': 1}
Victories per era: {'EA': 1, 'LA': 1}
Victories URLs: {'Dawnstrike': 'unknown', 'Dawggie does Dominions': 'unknown'}

2010-04-07 17:26:15,099 dom3_hof_mgr DEBUG Player 3 in list:
Player Info:
Name: Wraithlord
Number of Victories: 2
Number of Defeated Nations: 26
Nations won with: {'MA Pythium': 1, 'EA Caelum': 1}
Victories per era: {'EA': 1, 'MA': 1}
Victories URLs: {'Frechdachs Gangbang (aka Jinxed Frechdachs)': 'unknown', 'Wrath of Opposing Fates (WOOF)': 'unknown'}

2010-04-07 17:26:15,099 dom3_hof_mgr DEBUG Player 4 in list:
Player Info:
Name: Calmon
Number of Victories: 2
Number of Defeated Nations: 25
Nations won with: {'LA Ermor': 1, 'MA Ermor': 1}
Victories per era: {'MA': 1, 'LA': 1}
Victories URLs: {'The Quick and the Dead': 'unknown', 'Faerun MA PBEM': 'unknown'}

2010-04-07 17:26:15,099 dom3_hof_mgr DEBUG Player 5 in list:
Player Info:
Name: Jazzepi
Number of Victories: 2
Number of Defeated Nations: 23
Nations won with: {"LA T'ien Ch'i": 1, "EA T'ien Ch'i": 1}
Victories per era: {'EA': 1, 'LA': 1}
Victories URLs: {'Epiphany': 'unknown', 'Ragnarok': 'unknown'}

2010-04-07 17:26:15,100 dom3_hof_mgr DEBUG Player 6 in list:
Player Info:
Name: Baalz
Number of Victories: 1
Number of Defeated Nations: 21
Nations won with: {"MA R'lyeh": 1}
Victories per era: {'MA': 1}
Victories URLs: {'Afterthought': 'unknown'}

2010-04-07 17:26:15,100 dom3_hof_mgr DEBUG Player 7 in list:
Player Info:
Name: Ironhawk
Number of Victories: 1
Number of Defeated Nations: 20
Nations won with: {'MA Pythium': 1}
Victories per era: {'MA': 1}
Victories URLs: {'Concept of Creation': 'unknown'}

2010-04-07 17:26:15,100 dom3_hof_mgr DEBUG Player 8 in list:
Player Info:
Name: Amhazair
Number of Victories: 1
Number of Defeated Nations: 16
Nations won with: {'EA Helheim': 1}
Victories per era: {'EA': 1}
Victories URLs: {'The Middle Way': 'unknown'}

WraithLord April 7th, 2010 02:49 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
I have two questions.

1. Should team game wins be counted towards HoF (i.e. a team of two that wins get's 0.5 point each)?
2. How should ties be counted?- ignored or victory equally distributed. Say game is three fold tied - does each winner get 1/3 point?

And boy now the DB is much larger the nation wins statistics becomes very interesting. I can see in them patterns that I weren't aware of before.

Gregstrom April 7th, 2010 03:38 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
I think team games should be counted in a separate HoF, as team games play differently. Duels could be counted separately for the same reason.

Trumanator April 7th, 2010 04:05 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
I think Tyrant was counting ties as partial wins, ie 2 person tie= .5 win for both.

WraithLord April 8th, 2010 11:47 AM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
ok. I'll be consistent with Tyrant's HoF.
For ties 1 victory point will be distributed equally between the winners.
Team games will just be listed and not factored into HoF.

BTW, my report generation engine is 90% done (and ain't Python great - I got to use some nifty idioms :D ).
It's missing some small touches and finishes. When the DB is complete I'll start a new HoF thread with the updated standings.

I invite all who cares to double check that no mistakes have fallen in the DB. I can even attach the current one already.

Juffos April 8th, 2010 01:39 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
List victorious nations, but not players.

Trumanator April 8th, 2010 06:08 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Juffos (Post 739582)
List victorious nations, but not players.
Is that a suggestion? If it is, I'd just like to say that I think listing victorious players is an excellent way of rewarding people for their hard work, and helps with the winnowing of information to a degree.

vfb April 8th, 2010 07:50 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
Trum, if you are rewarding people for their hard work, then you're encouraging people to work hard instead of just having fun. It's a game! If it feels like work, you're doing it wrong. IMNSHO, of course.

WraithLord April 14th, 2010 09:15 AM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
Update. Here's the nations score pretty print, based on same incomplete DB. I use float b/c I factored ties as partial wins.

Victorious Nations

All Age Mega Game
Winners: Zeldor - Game:Kingmaker - Players: 63 - Nation: LA Argatha - Mods: custom

Early(23.000000)

EA Helheim : 3.000000
EA T'ien Ch'i : 2.333333
EA Caelum : 2.000000
EA Lanka : 2.000000
EA Ulm : 2.000000
EA Niefelheim : 2.000000
EA Sauromatia : 2.000000
EA Fomoria : 2.000000
EA Vanheim : 1.000000
EA Pangaea : 1.000000
EA R'lyeh : 1.000000
EA Marveni : 1.000000
EA Agartha : 1.000000
EA Oceania : 0.333333
EA Yomi : 0.333333

Mid(24.000000)

MA Pythium : 3.000000
MA Shinuyama : 3.000000
MA Pangaea : 2.500000
MA Ulm : 2.333333
MA R'lyeh : 2.000000
MA Abysia : 2.000000
MA Marignon : 1.500000
MA Jotunheim : 1.000000
MA Ermor : 1.000000
MA Oceania : 1.000000
MA C'tis : 1.000000
MA Man : 1.000000
MA Ulm Reborn : 1.000000
MA Arcoscephale : 1.000000
MA Machaka : 0.333333
MA Man : 0.333333

Late(14.000000)

LA Ermor : 4.000000
LA R'lyeh : 3.000000
LA Agartha : 1.000000
LA Mictlan : 1.000000
LA T'ien Ch'i : 1.000000
LA Marignon : 1.000000
LA Ulm Reborn : 1.000000
LA Utgard : 1.000000
LA Pythium : 1.000000

WraithLord April 14th, 2010 09:42 AM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
And here's the HoF:

The Hall of Honor

Early

Winner(s): Jurri -game: Dawnstrike - Players: 18 - Nations(s): EA Caelum
Winner(s): Corwin -game: Graeme Dice EA - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA T'ien Ch'i
Winner(s): thejeff -game: Newb EA Aran - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Vanheim
Winner(s): K -game: Newb EA Tyrande - Players: 5 - Nations(s): EA Lanka
Winner(s): johnarryn -game: War is Hell - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Ulm
Winner(s): LoloMo -game: Mana Burn - Players: 15 - Nations(s): EA Pangaea
Winner(s): Amhazair -game: The Middle Way - Players: 16 - Nations(s): EA Helheim
Winner(s): WraithLord -game: Wrath of Opposing Fates (WOOF) - Players: 12 - Nations(s): EA Caelum
Winner(s): Jazzepi -game: Ragnarok - Players: 12 - Nations(s): EA T'ien Ch'i
Winner(s): Micah -game: Tempest - Players: 21 - Nations(s): EA Helheim
Winner(s): Jazzepi -game: Happy Days - Players: 11 - Nations(s): EA Niefelheim
Winner(s): RicoRico -game: Clash of The Newbies - Players: 6 - Nations(s): EA Sauromatia
Winner(s): Jurri -game: BARK - Players: 14 - Nations(s): EA R'lyeh
Winner(s): Micah -game: Dolphin - Players: 15 - Nations(s): EA Ulm
Winner(s): Snacktime,Sum1Won,Warhammer -game: Mara - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Oceania,EA Yomi,EA T'ien Ch'i
Winner(s): DrPraetorious -game: Sophistry - Players: 21 - Nations(s): EA Niefelheim
Winner(s): Calmon -game: Consecrated Ground - Players: 10 - Nations(s): EA Helheim
Winner(s): Izzyz -game: Chupacabra - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Marveni
Winner(s): Szumo -game: DoomChicken - Players: 12 - Nations(s): EA Agartha
Winner(s): Micah -game: Rand - Players: 18 - Nations(s): EA Fomoria
Winner(s): djo -game: Solstice - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Fomoria
Winner(s): ano -game: War of Dominion - Players: 12 - Nations(s): EA Lanka
Winner(s): Kadelake -game: Strolling - Players: 13 - Nations(s): EA Sauromatia

Mid

Winner(s): Ironhawk -game: Concept of Creation - Players: 20 - Nations(s): MA Pythium
Winner(s): Tyrant -game: Middle Aged -MA- - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA Marignon
Winner(s): Micah -game: Undertow - Players: 12 - Nations(s): MA Shinuyama
Winner(s): Teraswaerto -game: neZ - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA Jotunheim
Winner(s): WraithLord -game: Frechdachs Gangbang (aka Jinxed Frechdachs) - Players: 14 - Nations(s): MA Pythium
Winner(s): Calmon -game: Faerun MA PBEM - Players: 17 - Nations(s): MA Ermor
Winner(s): Evilhomer -game: Slow 10 player game - Players: 10 - Nations(s): MA Oceania
Winner(s): CUnknown -game: Invisible Swarm - Players: 7 - Nations(s): MA Ulm
Winner(s): Ewierl -game: Dark Matter - Players: 12 - Nations(s): MA Pangaea
Winner(s): Baalz -game: Afterthought - Players: 21 - Nations(s): MA R'lyeh
Winner(s): solo,Twan,Meglobob -game: Middle Era, Cradle of Dominion - Players: 10 - Nations(s): MA Ulm, MA Machaka, MA Man
Winner(s): Szumo -game: Jaguar - Players: 9 - Nations(s): MA R'lyeh
Winner(s): Llamabeast,Xietor -game: Alpaca - Players: 11 - Nations(s): MA Pangaea,MA Marignon
Winner(s): WraithLord -game: Dagur - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA Pythium
Winner(s): Xietor -game: Epic Heroes - Players: 12 - Nations(s): MA Shinuyama
Winner(s): Micah -game: Rico's Casual PBEM game - Players: 16 - Nations(s): MA Abysia
Winner(s): Shuma -game: SmokyBat - Players: 14 - Nations(s): MA Shinuyama
Winner(s): Amhazair -game: Armadillo - Players: 21 - Nations(s): MA C'tis
Winner(s): FAJ -game: Atla - Players: 7 - Nations(s): MA Abysia
Winner(s): Cor2 -game: Version 3.08 Newbie game - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA Man
Winner(s): Baalz -game: Bragi - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA Pangaea
Winner(s): WraithLord -game: Hydrant - Players: 15 - Nations(s): MA Ulm
Winner(s): Llamabeast -game: Marmoset - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA Ulm Reborn
Winner(s): Twan -game: King of the Isle - Players: 12 - Nations(s): MA Arcoscephale

Late

Winner(s): Meglobob -game: ImpendingIndustry - Players: 8 - Nations(s): LA Agartha
Winner(s): Jurri -game: Dawggie does Dominions - Players: 15 - Nations(s): LA Mictlan
Winner(s): Calmon -game: The Quick and the Dead - Players: 8 - Nations(s): LA Ermor
Winner(s): Jazzepi -game: Epiphany - Players: 11 - Nations(s): LA T'ien Ch'i
Winner(s): Micah -game: The End of time - Players: 12 - Nations(s): LA Marignon
Winner(s): Ramiro -game: Hidden sings - Players: 13 - Nations(s): LA Ermor
Winner(s): Xox -game: Shadow People - Players: 8 - Nations(s): LA R'lyeh
Winner(s): Hullu -game: Veturi LA - Players: 7 - Nations(s): LA Ermor
Winner(s): Evilhomer -game: Discordia - Players: 18 - Nations(s): LA R'lyeh
Winner(s): Tuidjy -game: NeoXekinima - Players: 7 - Nations(s): LA Ulm Reborn
Winner(s): Meglobob -game: Starfall - Players: 13 - Nations(s): LA Ermor
Winner(s): Kadelake -game: Suricate - Players: 9 - Nations(s): LA Utgard
Winner(s): Ironhawk -game: Epotara - Players: 17 - Nations(s): LA Pythium
Winner(s): Amhazair -game: Sloth - Players: 19 - Nations(s): LA R'lyeh

WraithLord April 14th, 2010 10:09 AM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
And here's the HoF:

The Hall of Honor

Early

Winner(s): Jurri -game: Dawnstrike - Players: 18 - Nations(s): EA Caelum
Winner(s): Corwin -game: Graeme Dice EA - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA T'ien Ch'i
Winner(s): thejeff -game: Newb EA Aran - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Vanheim
Winner(s): K -game: Newb EA Tyrande - Players: 5 - Nations(s): EA Lanka
Winner(s): johnarryn -game: War is Hell - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Ulm
Winner(s): LoloMo -game: Mana Burn - Players: 15 - Nations(s): EA Pangaea
Winner(s): Amhazair -game: The Middle Way - Players: 16 - Nations(s): EA Helheim
Winner(s): WraithLord -game: Wrath of Opposing Fates (WOOF) - Players: 12 - Nations(s): EA Caelum
Winner(s): Jazzepi -game: Ragnarok - Players: 12 - Nations(s): EA T'ien Ch'i
Winner(s): Micah -game: Tempest - Players: 21 - Nations(s): EA Helheim
Winner(s): Jazzepi -game: Happy Days - Players: 11 - Nations(s): EA Niefelheim
Winner(s): RicoRico -game: Clash of The Newbies - Players: 6 - Nations(s): EA Sauromatia
Winner(s): Jurri -game: BARK - Players: 14 - Nations(s): EA R'lyeh
Winner(s): Micah -game: Dolphin - Players: 15 - Nations(s): EA Ulm
Winner(s): Snacktime,Sum1Won,Warhammer -game: Mara - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Oceania,EA Yomi,EA T'ien Ch'i
Winner(s): DrPraetorious -game: Sophistry - Players: 21 - Nations(s): EA Niefelheim
Winner(s): Calmon -game: Consecrated Ground - Players: 10 - Nations(s): EA Helheim
Winner(s): Izzyz -game: Chupacabra - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Marveni
Winner(s): Szumo -game: DoomChicken - Players: 12 - Nations(s): EA Agartha
Winner(s): Micah -game: Rand - Players: 18 - Nations(s): EA Fomoria
Winner(s): djo -game: Solstice - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Fomoria
Winner(s): ano -game: War of Dominion - Players: 12 - Nations(s): EA Lanka
Winner(s): Kadelake -game: Strolling - Players: 13 - Nations(s): EA Sauromatia

Mid

Winner(s): Ironhawk -game: Concept of Creation - Players: 20 - Nations(s): MA Pythium
Winner(s): Tyrant -game: Middle Aged -MA- - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA Marignon
Winner(s): Micah -game: Undertow - Players: 12 - Nations(s): MA Shinuyama
Winner(s): Teraswaerto -game: neZ - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA Jotunheim
Winner(s): WraithLord -game: Frechdachs Gangbang (aka Jinxed Frechdachs) - Players: 14 - Nations(s): MA Pythium
Winner(s): Calmon -game: Faerun MA PBEM - Players: 17 - Nations(s): MA Ermor
Winner(s): Evilhomer -game: Slow 10 player game - Players: 10 - Nations(s): MA Oceania
Winner(s): CUnknown -game: Invisible Swarm - Players: 7 - Nations(s): MA Ulm
Winner(s): Ewierl -game: Dark Matter - Players: 12 - Nations(s): MA Pangaea
Winner(s): Baalz -game: Afterthought - Players: 21 - Nations(s): MA R'lyeh
Winner(s): solo,Twan,Meglobob -game: Middle Era, Cradle of Dominion - Players: 10 - Nations(s): MA Ulm, MA Machaka, MA Man
Winner(s): Szumo -game: Jaguar - Players: 9 - Nations(s): MA R'lyeh
Winner(s): Llamabeast,Xietor -game: Alpaca - Players: 11 - Nations(s): MA Pangaea,MA Marignon
Winner(s): WraithLord -game: Dagur - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA Pythium
Winner(s): Xietor -game: Epic Heroes - Players: 12 - Nations(s): MA Shinuyama
Winner(s): Micah -game: Rico's Casual PBEM game - Players: 16 - Nations(s): MA Abysia
Winner(s): Shuma -game: SmokyBat - Players: 14 - Nations(s): MA Shinuyama
Winner(s): Amhazair -game: Armadillo - Players: 21 - Nations(s): MA C'tis
Winner(s): FAJ -game: Atla - Players: 7 - Nations(s): MA Abysia
Winner(s): Cor2 -game: Version 3.08 Newbie game - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA Man
Winner(s): Baalz -game: Bragi - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA Pangaea
Winner(s): WraithLord -game: Hydrant - Players: 15 - Nations(s): MA Ulm
Winner(s): Llamabeast -game: Marmoset - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA Ulm Reborn
Winner(s): Twan -game: King of the Isle - Players: 12 - Nations(s): MA Arcoscephale

Late

Winner(s): Meglobob -game: ImpendingIndustry - Players: 8 - Nations(s): LA Agartha
Winner(s): Jurri -game: Dawggie does Dominions - Players: 15 - Nations(s): LA Mictlan
Winner(s): Calmon -game: The Quick and the Dead - Players: 8 - Nations(s): LA Ermor
Winner(s): Jazzepi -game: Epiphany - Players: 11 - Nations(s): LA T'ien Ch'i
Winner(s): Micah -game: The End of time - Players: 12 - Nations(s): LA Marignon
Winner(s): Ramiro -game: Hidden sings - Players: 13 - Nations(s): LA Ermor
Winner(s): Xox -game: Shadow People - Players: 8 - Nations(s): LA R'lyeh
Winner(s): Hullu -game: Veturi LA - Players: 7 - Nations(s): LA Ermor
Winner(s): Evilhomer -game: Discordia - Players: 18 - Nations(s): LA R'lyeh
Winner(s): Tuidjy -game: NeoXekinima - Players: 7 - Nations(s): LA Ulm Reborn
Winner(s): Meglobob -game: Starfall - Players: 13 - Nations(s): LA Ermor
Winner(s): Kadelake -game: Suricate - Players: 9 - Nations(s): LA Utgard
Winner(s): Ironhawk -game: Epotara - Players: 17 - Nations(s): LA Pythium
Winner(s): Amhazair -game: Sloth - Players: 19 - Nations(s): LA R'lyeh

Graeme Dice April 14th, 2010 11:03 AM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WraithLord (Post 740589)
And here's the HoF:

The Hall of Honor

Winner(s): Corwin -game: Graeme Dice EA - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA T'ien Ch'i
Well, something is a bit messed up in your parser I assume. :)

WraithLord April 14th, 2010 11:16 AM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
Sorry for the double post. My internet connection is fluctuating :(

Graeme Dice, good catch. However this time it's not the parsers fault.

The problem is in the DB. specifically this game:
[
Winner: Corwin
Game: Graeme Dice EA
Game Link: unknown
Players: 8
Nation: EA T'ien Ch'i
Mods: unknown
Era: EA
]

ring a bell?
Hadrian_II, do you have any idea where it came from?

Trumanator April 14th, 2010 11:22 AM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
If we could have a top ten list that would be nice.

Graeme Dice April 14th, 2010 11:49 AM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WraithLord (Post 740599)
Sorry for the double post. My internet connection is fluctuating :(

Graeme Dice, good catch. However this time it's not the parsers fault.

The problem is in the DB. specifically this game:
[
Winner: Corwin
Game: Graeme Dice EA
Game Link: unknown
Players: 8
Nation: EA T'ien Ch'i
Mods: unknown
Era: EA
]

ring a bell?
Hadrian_II, do you have any idea where it came from?
How old is that entry? Because it would have to be from before patch 3.07 if it was a game I was running.

Squirrelloid April 14th, 2010 01:15 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
-ignore-

WraithLord April 14th, 2010 03:55 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
Trumanator: Would you prefer that to a full list of nations?

Graeme Dice: Oh, so there really was such a game :)
I wouldn't want to take a victory from Corwin although it makes parser looks silly ;)

Trumanator April 14th, 2010 04:03 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
I mean a top ten list of players w/the most wins like Tyrant had running before. Sure it's not perfect, but its the closest we have to a leaderboard, which I believe is a good thing.

WraithLord April 14th, 2010 04:07 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
Good idea. Tyrant had top 15 I think.
I can do that( in the blink of a python's eye :D )

Graeme Dice April 14th, 2010 05:08 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WraithLord (Post 740636)
Graeme Dice: Oh, so there really was such a game :)
I very well could have run one back before my server computer's power supply ignited. Just called it misc. EA game I guess.

WraithLord April 15th, 2010 08:00 AM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
Full results based on first 14 (20 more to go. Go go Hadrian_II :) )pages of HoF:


Victorious Nations

All Age Mega Game
Winners: Zeldor - Game:Kingmaker - Players: 63 - Nation: LA Argatha - Mods: custom

Early(30.000000)

EA Helheim : 3.000000
EA Sauromatia : 3.000000
EA T'ien Ch'i : 2.333333
EA Caelum : 2.000000
EA Lanka : 2.000000
EA Ulm : 2.000000
EA Niefelheim : 2.000000
EA Marveni : 2.000000
EA Fomoria : 2.000000
EA C'tis : 2.000000
EA Vanheim : 1.000000
EA Pangaea : 1.000000
EA R'lyeh : 1.000000
EA Agartha : 1.000000
EA Niefeleim : 1.000000
EA Kailasa : 1.000000
EA Hinnom : 1.000000
EA Oceania : 0.333333
EA Yomi : 0.333333

Mid(30.000000)

MA Abysia : 3.500000
MA Pythium : 3.000000
MA Shinuyama : 3.000000
MA R'lyeh : 3.000000
MA Pangaea : 2.500000
MA Ulm : 2.333333
MA Ermor : 2.000000
MA Marignon : 1.500000
MA Jotunheim : 1.000000
MA Oceania : 1.000000
MA C'tis : 1.000000
MA Man : 1.000000
MA Ulm Reborn : 1.000000
MA Arcoscephale : 1.000000
MA Caelum : 1.000000
MA Arga Dis : 1.000000
MA T'ien Ch'i : 0.500000
MA Machaka : 0.333333
MA Man : 0.333333

Late(21.000000)

LA Ermor : 6.000000
LA R'lyeh : 4.000000
LA Mictlan : 2.000000
LA T'ien Ch'i : 2.000000
LA Marignon : 2.000000
LA Agartha : 1.000000
LA Ulm Reborn : 1.000000
LA Utgard : 1.000000
LA Pythium : 1.000000
LA Midgard : 1.000000

The Hall of Honor

Early

Winner(s): Jurri -game: Dawnstrike - Players: 18 - Nations(s): EA Caelum
Winner(s): Corwin -game: Graeme Dice EA - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA T'ien Ch'i
Winner(s): thejeff -game: Newb EA Aran - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Vanheim
Winner(s): K -game: Newb EA Tyrande - Players: 5 - Nations(s): EA Lanka
Winner(s): johnarryn -game: War is Hell - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Ulm
Winner(s): LoloMo -game: Mana Burn - Players: 15 - Nations(s): EA Pangaea
Winner(s): Amhazair -game: The Middle Way - Players: 16 - Nations(s): EA Helheim
Winner(s): WraithLord -game: Wrath of Opposing Fates (WOOF) - Players: 12 - Nations(s): EA Caelum
Winner(s): Jazzepi -game: Ragnarok - Players: 12 - Nations(s): EA T'ien Ch'i
Winner(s): Micah -game: Tempest - Players: 21 - Nations(s): EA Helheim
Winner(s): Jazzepi -game: Happy Days - Players: 11 - Nations(s): EA Niefelheim
Winner(s): RicoRico -game: Clash of The Newbies - Players: 6 - Nations(s): EA Sauromatia
Winner(s): Jurri -game: BARK - Players: 14 - Nations(s): EA R'lyeh
Winner(s): Micah -game: Dolphin - Players: 15 - Nations(s): EA Ulm
Winner(s): Snacktime,Sum1Won,Warhammer -game: Mara - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Oceania,EA Yomi,EA T'ien Ch'i
Winner(s): DrPraetorious -game: Sophistry - Players: 21 - Nations(s): EA Niefelheim
Winner(s): Calmon -game: Consecrated Ground - Players: 10 - Nations(s): EA Helheim
Winner(s): Izzyz -game: Chupacabra - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Marveni
Winner(s): Szumo -game: DoomChicken - Players: 12 - Nations(s): EA Agartha
Winner(s): Micah -game: Rand - Players: 18 - Nations(s): EA Fomoria
Winner(s): djo -game: Solstice - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Fomoria
Winner(s): ano -game: War of Dominion - Players: 12 - Nations(s): EA Lanka
Winner(s): Kadelake -game: Strolling - Players: 13 - Nations(s): EA Sauromatia
Winner(s): Dimaz -game: Question of Balance - Players: 10 - Nations(s): EA C'tis
Winner(s): Tuidjy -game: DangerPudding - Players: 12 - Nations(s): EA Niefeleim
Winner(s): Niarg -game: Khaldun - Players: 6 - Nations(s): EA C'tis
Winner(s): fantasma -game: Fruitbat - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Marveni
Winner(s): yandav -game: Manatee - Players: 17 - Nations(s): EA Kailasa
Winner(s): Baalz -game: DarkParadise - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Hinnom
Winner(s): Renojustin -game: Peccary - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Sauromatia

Mid

Winner(s): Ironhawk -game: Concept of Creation - Players: 20 - Nations(s): MA Pythium
Winner(s): Tyrant -game: Middle Aged -MA- - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA Marignon
Winner(s): Micah -game: Undertow - Players: 12 - Nations(s): MA Shinuyama
Winner(s): Teraswaerto -game: neZ - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA Jotunheim
Winner(s): WraithLord -game: Frechdachs Gangbang (aka Jinxed Frechdachs) - Players: 14 - Nations(s): MA Pythium
Winner(s): Calmon -game: Faerun MA PBEM - Players: 17 - Nations(s): MA Ermor
Winner(s): Evilhomer -game: Slow 10 player game - Players: 10 - Nations(s): MA Oceania
Winner(s): CUnknown -game: Invisible Swarm - Players: 7 - Nations(s): MA Ulm
Winner(s): Ewierl -game: Dark Matter - Players: 12 - Nations(s): MA Pangaea
Winner(s): Baalz -game: Afterthought - Players: 21 - Nations(s): MA R'lyeh
Winner(s): solo,Twan,Meglobob -game: Middle Era, Cradle of Dominion - Players: 10 - Nations(s): MA Ulm, MA Machaka, MA Man
Winner(s): Szumo -game: Jaguar - Players: 9 - Nations(s): MA R'lyeh
Winner(s): Llamabeast,Xietor -game: Alpaca - Players: 11 - Nations(s): MA Pangaea,MA Marignon
Winner(s): WraithLord -game: Dagur - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA Pythium
Winner(s): Xietor -game: Epic Heroes - Players: 12 - Nations(s): MA Shinuyama
Winner(s): Micah -game: Rico's Casual PBEM game - Players: 16 - Nations(s): MA Abysia
Winner(s): Shuma -game: SmokyBat - Players: 14 - Nations(s): MA Shinuyama
Winner(s): Amhazair -game: Armadillo - Players: 21 - Nations(s): MA C'tis
Winner(s): FAJ -game: Atla - Players: 7 - Nations(s): MA Abysia
Winner(s): Cor2 -game: Version 3.08 Newbie game - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA Man
Winner(s): Baalz -game: Bragi - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA Pangaea
Winner(s): WraithLord -game: Hydrant - Players: 15 - Nations(s): MA Ulm
Winner(s): Llamabeast -game: Marmoset - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA Ulm Reborn
Winner(s): Twan -game: King of the Isle - Players: 12 - Nations(s): MA Arcoscephale
Winner(s): IndyPendant -game: Swarm 2.5 - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA R'lyeh
Winner(s): Lolomo -game: Epic Heroes II - Players: 18 - Nations(s): MA Caelum
Winner(s): Zeldor,parcelt -game: Urapara - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA T'ien Ch'i,MA Abysia
Winner(s): Velusion -game: TigerCat - Players: 15 - Nations(s): MA Abysia
Winner(s): Amhazair -game: Uakari - Players: 12 - Nations(s): MA Arga Dis
Winner(s): IndyPendant -game: Silvan - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA Ermor

Late

Winner(s): Meglobob -game: ImpendingIndustry - Players: 8 - Nations(s): LA Agartha
Winner(s): Jurri -game: Dawggie does Dominions - Players: 15 - Nations(s): LA Mictlan
Winner(s): Calmon -game: The Quick and the Dead - Players: 8 - Nations(s): LA Ermor
Winner(s): Jazzepi -game: Epiphany - Players: 11 - Nations(s): LA T'ien Ch'i
Winner(s): Micah -game: The End of time - Players: 12 - Nations(s): LA Marignon
Winner(s): Ramiro -game: Hidden sings - Players: 13 - Nations(s): LA Ermor
Winner(s): Xox -game: Shadow People - Players: 8 - Nations(s): LA R'lyeh
Winner(s): Hullu -game: Veturi LA - Players: 7 - Nations(s): LA Ermor
Winner(s): Evilhomer -game: Discordia - Players: 18 - Nations(s): LA R'lyeh
Winner(s): Tuidjy -game: NeoXekinima - Players: 7 - Nations(s): LA Ulm Reborn
Winner(s): Meglobob -game: Starfall - Players: 13 - Nations(s): LA Ermor
Winner(s): Kadelake -game: Suricate - Players: 9 - Nations(s): LA Utgard
Winner(s): Ironhawk -game: Epotara - Players: 17 - Nations(s): LA Pythium
Winner(s): Amhazair -game: Sloth - Players: 19 - Nations(s): LA R'lyeh
Winner(s): Karlem -game: Vampirebat - Players: 8 - Nations(s): LA Mictlan
Winner(s): ano -game: Highlander - Players: 19 - Nations(s): LA R'lyeh
Winner(s): Profanicus -game: VesperBat - Players: 15 - Nations(s): LA Midgard
Winner(s): calmon -game: Fracture - Players: 16 - Nations(s): LA Marignon
Winner(s): DonCorazon -game: Alexandria - Players: 12 - Nations(s): LA T'ien Ch'i
Winner(s): Micah -game: The End of Time - Players: 10 - Nations(s): LA Ermor
Winner(s): DryaUnda -game: Loemendor - Players: 9 - Nations(s): LA Ermor

Team games

Winners: Micah&Shovah32 -game: Allegiances - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA R'lyeh&MA Oceania
Winners: Micah&DrPraetorius -game: Allegiances2 - Players: 12 - Nations(s): EA Caelum&EA Agartha
Winners: Wokeye&Everz -game: Agouti - Players: 10 - Nations(s): EA Abysia&EA Lanka
Winners: Zeldor&moderation -game: EpikBattel - Players: 12 - Nations(s): MA Mictlan&MA R'lyeh

Hall of Fame

0 - Micah 7.000000/104
1 - Amhazair 4.000000/68
2 - WraithLord 4.000000/49
3 - Jurri 3.000000/47
4 - Baalz 3.000000/37
5 - Calmon 3.000000/35
6 - Jazzepi 3.000000/34
7 - Meglobob 2.333333/31
8 - Ironhawk 2.000000/37
9 - ano 2.000000/31
10- Evilhomer 2.000000/28
11- Kadelake 2.000000/22
12- Szumo 2.000000/21
13- Tuidjy 2.000000/19
14- IndyPendant 2.000000/16

WraithLord April 15th, 2010 08:04 AM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
Oh man, the forum ignores all my formatting efforts.

This is how the report should look
Code:

Victorious Nations

All Age Mega Game
Winners: Zeldor - Game:Kingmaker - Players: 63 - Nation: LA Argatha - Mods: custom
               
Early(30.000000)

EA Helheim      : 3.000000
EA Sauromatia  : 3.000000
EA T'ien Ch'i  : 2.333333
EA Caelum      : 2.000000
EA Lanka        : 2.000000
EA Ulm          : 2.000000
EA Niefelheim  : 2.000000
EA Marveni      : 2.000000
EA Fomoria      : 2.000000
EA C'tis        : 2.000000
EA Vanheim      : 1.000000
EA Pangaea      : 1.000000
EA R'lyeh      : 1.000000
EA Agartha      : 1.000000
EA Niefeleim    : 1.000000
EA Kailasa      : 1.000000
EA Hinnom      : 1.000000
EA Oceania      : 0.333333
EA Yomi        : 0.333333

Mid(30.000000)

MA Abysia      : 3.500000
MA Pythium      : 3.000000
MA Shinuyama    : 3.000000
MA R'lyeh      : 3.000000
MA Pangaea      : 2.500000
MA Ulm          : 2.333333
MA Ermor        : 2.000000
MA Marignon    : 1.500000
MA Jotunheim    : 1.000000
MA Oceania      : 1.000000
MA C'tis        : 1.000000
MA Man          : 1.000000
MA Ulm Reborn  : 1.000000
MA Arcoscephale : 1.000000
MA Caelum      : 1.000000
MA Arga Dis    : 1.000000
MA T'ien Ch'i  : 0.500000
 MA Machaka    : 0.333333
 MA Man        : 0.333333

Late(21.000000)

LA Ermor        : 6.000000
LA R'lyeh      : 4.000000
LA Mictlan      : 2.000000
LA T'ien Ch'i  : 2.000000
LA Marignon    : 2.000000
LA Agartha      : 1.000000
LA Ulm Reborn  : 1.000000
LA Utgard      : 1.000000
LA Pythium      : 1.000000
LA Midgard      : 1.000000

The Hall of Honor

Early

Winner(s): Jurri            -game: Dawnstrike          - Players: 18  - Nations(s): EA Caelum     
Winner(s): Corwin          -game: Graeme Dice EA      - Players: 8  - Nations(s): EA T'ien Ch'i 
Winner(s): thejeff          -game: Newb EA Aran        - Players: 8  - Nations(s): EA Vanheim     
Winner(s): K                -game: Newb EA Tyrande      - Players: 5  - Nations(s): EA Lanka       
Winner(s): johnarryn        -game: War is Hell          - Players: 8  - Nations(s): EA Ulm         
Winner(s): LoloMo          -game: Mana Burn            - Players: 15  - Nations(s): EA Pangaea     
Winner(s): Amhazair        -game: The Middle Way      - Players: 16  - Nations(s): EA Helheim     
Winner(s): WraithLord      -game: Wrath of Opposing Fates (WOOF) - Players: 12  - Nations(s): EA Caelum     
Winner(s): Jazzepi          -game: Ragnarok            - Players: 12  - Nations(s): EA T'ien Ch'i 
Winner(s): Micah            -game: Tempest              - Players: 21  - Nations(s): EA Helheim     
Winner(s): Jazzepi          -game: Happy Days          - Players: 11  - Nations(s): EA Niefelheim 
Winner(s): RicoRico        -game: Clash of The Newbies - Players: 6  - Nations(s): EA Sauromatia 
Winner(s): Jurri            -game: BARK                - Players: 14  - Nations(s): EA R'lyeh     
Winner(s): Micah            -game: Dolphin              - Players: 15  - Nations(s): EA Ulm         
Winner(s): Snacktime,Sum1Won,Warhammer -game: Mara                - Players: 8  - Nations(s): EA Oceania,EA Yomi,EA T'ien Ch'i
Winner(s): DrPraetorious    -game: Sophistry            - Players: 21  - Nations(s): EA Niefelheim 
Winner(s): Calmon          -game: Consecrated Ground  - Players: 10  - Nations(s): EA Helheim     
Winner(s): Izzyz            -game: Chupacabra          - Players: 8  - Nations(s): EA Marveni     
Winner(s): Szumo            -game: DoomChicken          - Players: 12  - Nations(s): EA Agartha     
Winner(s): Micah            -game: Rand                - Players: 18  - Nations(s): EA Fomoria     
Winner(s): djo              -game: Solstice            - Players: 8  - Nations(s): EA Fomoria     
Winner(s): ano              -game: War of Dominion      - Players: 12  - Nations(s): EA Lanka       
Winner(s): Kadelake        -game: Strolling            - Players: 13  - Nations(s): EA Sauromatia 
Winner(s): Dimaz            -game: Question of Balance  - Players: 10  - Nations(s): EA C'tis       
Winner(s): Tuidjy          -game: DangerPudding        - Players: 12  - Nations(s): EA Niefeleim   
Winner(s): Niarg            -game: Khaldun              - Players: 6  - Nations(s): EA C'tis       
Winner(s): fantasma        -game: Fruitbat            - Players: 8  - Nations(s): EA Marveni     
Winner(s): yandav          -game: Manatee              - Players: 17  - Nations(s): EA Kailasa     
Winner(s): Baalz            -game: DarkParadise        - Players: 8  - Nations(s): EA Hinnom     
Winner(s): Renojustin      -game: Peccary              - Players: 8  - Nations(s): EA Sauromatia 

Mid

Winner(s): Ironhawk        -game: Concept of Creation  - Players: 20  - Nations(s): MA Pythium     
Winner(s): Tyrant          -game: Middle Aged -MA-    - Players: 8  - Nations(s): MA Marignon   
Winner(s): Micah            -game: Undertow            - Players: 12  - Nations(s): MA Shinuyama   
Winner(s): Teraswaerto      -game: neZ                  - Players: 8  - Nations(s): MA Jotunheim   
Winner(s): WraithLord      -game: Frechdachs Gangbang (aka Jinxed Frechdachs) - Players: 14  - Nations(s): MA Pythium     
Winner(s): Calmon          -game: Faerun MA PBEM      - Players: 17  - Nations(s): MA Ermor       
Winner(s): Evilhomer        -game: Slow 10 player game  - Players: 10  - Nations(s): MA Oceania     
Winner(s): CUnknown        -game: Invisible Swarm      - Players: 7  - Nations(s): MA Ulm         
Winner(s): Ewierl          -game: Dark Matter          - Players: 12  - Nations(s): MA Pangaea     
Winner(s): Baalz            -game: Afterthought        - Players: 21  - Nations(s): MA R'lyeh     
Winner(s): solo,Twan,Meglobob -game: Middle Era, Cradle of Dominion - Players: 10  - Nations(s): MA Ulm, MA Machaka, MA Man
Winner(s): Szumo            -game: Jaguar              - Players: 9  - Nations(s): MA R'lyeh     
Winner(s): Llamabeast,Xietor -game: Alpaca              - Players: 11  - Nations(s): MA Pangaea,MA Marignon
Winner(s): WraithLord      -game: Dagur                - Players: 8  - Nations(s): MA Pythium     
Winner(s): Xietor          -game: Epic Heroes          - Players: 12  - Nations(s): MA Shinuyama   
Winner(s): Micah            -game: Rico's Casual PBEM game - Players: 16  - Nations(s): MA Abysia     
Winner(s): Shuma            -game: SmokyBat            - Players: 14  - Nations(s): MA Shinuyama   
Winner(s): Amhazair        -game: Armadillo            - Players: 21  - Nations(s): MA C'tis       
Winner(s): FAJ              -game: Atla                - Players: 7  - Nations(s): MA Abysia     
Winner(s): Cor2            -game: Version 3.08 Newbie game - Players: 8  - Nations(s): MA Man         
Winner(s): Baalz            -game: Bragi                - Players: 8  - Nations(s): MA Pangaea     
Winner(s): WraithLord      -game: Hydrant              - Players: 15  - Nations(s): MA Ulm         
Winner(s): Llamabeast      -game: Marmoset            - Players: 8  - Nations(s): MA Ulm Reborn 
Winner(s): Twan            -game: King of the Isle    - Players: 12  - Nations(s): MA Arcoscephale
Winner(s): IndyPendant      -game: Swarm 2.5            - Players: 8  - Nations(s): MA R'lyeh     
Winner(s): Lolomo          -game: Epic Heroes II      - Players: 18  - Nations(s): MA Caelum     
Winner(s): Zeldor,parcelt  -game: Urapara              - Players: 8  - Nations(s): MA T'ien Ch'i,MA Abysia
Winner(s): Velusion        -game: TigerCat            - Players: 15  - Nations(s): MA Abysia     
Winner(s): Amhazair        -game: Uakari              - Players: 12  - Nations(s): MA Arga Dis   
Winner(s): IndyPendant      -game: Silvan              - Players: 8  - Nations(s): MA Ermor       

Late

Winner(s): Meglobob        -game: ImpendingIndustry    - Players: 8  - Nations(s): LA Agartha     
Winner(s): Jurri            -game: Dawggie does Dominions - Players: 15  - Nations(s): LA Mictlan     
Winner(s): Calmon          -game: The Quick and the Dead - Players: 8  - Nations(s): LA Ermor       
Winner(s): Jazzepi          -game: Epiphany            - Players: 11  - Nations(s): LA T'ien Ch'i 
Winner(s): Micah            -game: The End of time      - Players: 12  - Nations(s): LA Marignon   
Winner(s): Ramiro          -game: Hidden sings        - Players: 13  - Nations(s): LA Ermor       
Winner(s): Xox              -game: Shadow People        - Players: 8  - Nations(s): LA R'lyeh     
Winner(s): Hullu            -game: Veturi LA            - Players: 7  - Nations(s): LA Ermor       
Winner(s): Evilhomer        -game: Discordia            - Players: 18  - Nations(s): LA R'lyeh     
Winner(s): Tuidjy          -game: NeoXekinima          - Players: 7  - Nations(s): LA Ulm Reborn 
Winner(s): Meglobob        -game: Starfall            - Players: 13  - Nations(s): LA Ermor       
Winner(s): Kadelake        -game: Suricate            - Players: 9  - Nations(s): LA Utgard     
Winner(s): Ironhawk        -game: Epotara              - Players: 17  - Nations(s): LA Pythium     
Winner(s): Amhazair        -game: Sloth                - Players: 19  - Nations(s): LA R'lyeh     
Winner(s): Karlem          -game: Vampirebat          - Players: 8  - Nations(s): LA Mictlan     
Winner(s): ano              -game: Highlander          - Players: 19  - Nations(s): LA R'lyeh     
Winner(s): Profanicus      -game: VesperBat            - Players: 15  - Nations(s): LA Midgard     
Winner(s): calmon          -game: Fracture            - Players: 16  - Nations(s): LA Marignon   
Winner(s): DonCorazon      -game: Alexandria          - Players: 12  - Nations(s): LA T'ien Ch'i 
Winner(s): Micah            -game: The End of Time      - Players: 10  - Nations(s): LA Ermor       
Winner(s): DryaUnda        -game: Loemendor            - Players: 9  - Nations(s): LA Ermor       

Team games

Winners: Micah&Shovah32  -game: Allegiances          - Players: 8  - Nations(s): MA R'lyeh&MA Oceania
Winners: Micah&DrPraetorius -game: Allegiances2        - Players: 12  - Nations(s): EA Caelum&EA Agartha
Winners: Wokeye&Everz    -game: Agouti              - Players: 10  - Nations(s): EA Abysia&EA Lanka
Winners: Zeldor&moderation -game: EpikBattel          - Players: 12  - Nations(s): MA Mictlan&MA R'lyeh

Hall of Fame

1 - Micah            7.000000/104
2 - Amhazair        4.000000/68
3 - WraithLord      4.000000/49
4 - Jurri            3.000000/47
5 - Baalz            3.000000/37
6 - Calmon          3.000000/35
7 - Jazzepi          3.000000/34
8 - Meglobob        2.333333/31
9 - Ironhawk        2.000000/37
10- ano              2.000000/31
11- Evilhomer        2.000000/28
12- Kadelake        2.000000/22
13- Szumo            2.000000/21
14- Tuidjy          2.000000/19
15- IndyPendant      2.000000/16
Any opinions?

Hadrian_II April 15th, 2010 12:27 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WraithLord (Post 740705)

Any opinions?
Use less numbers after the point, i think 2 should be sufficient.

WraithLord April 15th, 2010 02:53 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
I agree.

Aethyr April 17th, 2010 02:08 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
WL, thanks for taking this project on--great job. :)

WraithLord April 19th, 2010 05:50 AM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
Thanks for the encouragement Aethyr.

Update. current results as per first 19 pages of HoF.

Victorious Nations

All Age Mega Game
Winners: Zeldor - Game:Kingmaker - Players: 63 - Nation: LA Argatha - Mods: custom

Early(44.000000)

EA Sauromatia : 6.00
EA Fomoria : 5.00
EA Caelum : 4.00
EA Lanka : 3.00
EA Helheim : 3.00
EA Hinnom : 3.00
EA T'ien Ch'i : 2.33
EA Ulm : 2.00
EA Niefelheim : 2.00
EA Marveni : 2.00
EA C'tis : 2.00
EA Kailasa : 2.00
EA Vanheim : 1.00
EA Pangaea : 1.00
EA R'lyeh : 1.00
EA Agartha : 1.00
EA Niefeleim : 1.00
EA Arcoscephale : 1.00
EA Mictlan : 1.00
EA Oceania : 0.33
EA Yomi : 0.33

Mid(39.000000)

MA Pythium : 5.00
MA Pangaea : 3.50
MA Abysia : 3.50
MA Shinuyama : 3.00
MA R'lyeh : 3.00
MA Ulm : 2.33
MA Marignon : 2.00
MA Jotunheim : 2.00
MA Ermor : 2.00
MA C'tis : 2.00
MA Caelum : 2.00
MA Man : 1.33
MA Oceania : 1.00
MA Ulm Reborn : 1.00
MA Arcoscephale : 1.00
MA Arga Dis : 1.00
MA Mictlan : 1.00
MA Ashdod : 1.00
MA T'ien Ch'i : 0.50
MA Agartha : 0.50
MA Machaka : 0.33

Late(31.000000)

LA Ermor : 6.00
LA R'lyeh : 4.00
LA Mictlan : 3.00
LA Agartha : 2.00
LA T'ien Ch'i : 2.00
LA Marignon : 2.00
LA Utgard : 2.00
LA Abysia : 2.00
LA Man : 2.00
LA Ulm Reborn : 1.00
LA Pythium : 1.00
LA Midgard : 1.00
LA Pangaea : 1.00
LA Atlantis : 1.00
LA Ulm : 1.00

The Hall of Honor

Early

Winner(s): Jurri -game: Dawnstrike - Players: 18 - Nations(s): EA Caelum
Winner(s): Corwin -game: Graeme Dice EA - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA T'ien Ch'i
Winner(s): thejeff -game: Newb EA Aran - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Vanheim
Winner(s): K -game: Newb EA Tyrande - Players: 5 - Nations(s): EA Lanka
Winner(s): johnarryn -game: War is Hell - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Ulm
Winner(s): LoloMo -game: Mana Burn - Players: 15 - Nations(s): EA Pangaea
Winner(s): Amhazair -game: The Middle Way - Players: 16 - Nations(s): EA Helheim
Winner(s): WraithLord -game: Wrath of Opposing Fates (WOOF) - Players: 12 - Nations(s): EA Caelum
Winner(s): Jazzepi -game: Ragnarok - Players: 12 - Nations(s): EA T'ien Ch'i
Winner(s): Micah -game: Tempest - Players: 21 - Nations(s): EA Helheim
Winner(s): Jazzepi -game: Happy Days - Players: 11 - Nations(s): EA Niefelheim
Winner(s): RicoRico -game: Clash of The Newbies - Players: 6 - Nations(s): EA Sauromatia
Winner(s): Jurri -game: BARK - Players: 14 - Nations(s): EA R'lyeh
Winner(s): Micah -game: Dolphin - Players: 15 - Nations(s): EA Ulm
Winner(s): Snacktime,Sum1Won,Warhammer -game: Mara - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Oceania,EA Yomi,EA T'ien Ch'i
Winner(s): DrPraetorious -game: Sophistry - Players: 21 - Nations(s): EA Niefelheim
Winner(s): Calmon -game: Consecrated Ground - Players: 10 - Nations(s): EA Helheim
Winner(s): Izzyz -game: Chupacabra - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Marveni
Winner(s): Szumo -game: DoomChicken - Players: 12 - Nations(s): EA Agartha
Winner(s): Micah -game: Rand - Players: 18 - Nations(s): EA Fomoria
Winner(s): djo -game: Solstice - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Fomoria
Winner(s): ano -game: War of Dominion - Players: 12 - Nations(s): EA Lanka
Winner(s): Kadelake -game: Strolling - Players: 13 - Nations(s): EA Sauromatia
Winner(s): Dimaz -game: Question of Balance - Players: 10 - Nations(s): EA C'tis
Winner(s): Tuidjy -game: DangerPudding - Players: 12 - Nations(s): EA Niefeleim
Winner(s): Niarg -game: Khaldun - Players: 6 - Nations(s): EA C'tis
Winner(s): fantasma -game: Fruitbat - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Marveni
Winner(s): yandav -game: Manatee - Players: 17 - Nations(s): EA Kailasa
Winner(s): Baalz -game: DarkParadise - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Hinnom
Winner(s): Renojustin -game: Peccary - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Sauromatia
Winner(s): Digress -game: Feohtan - Players: 12 - Nations(s): EA Sauromatia
Winner(s): Hoplosternum -game: Newbtopia - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Fomoria
Winner(s): Psycho -game: LeafNosedBat - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Kailasa
Winner(s): Executor -game: Sha_Bay - Players: 4 - Nations(s): EA Hinnom
Winner(s): Calahan -game: FreshMeat - Players: 10 - Nations(s): EA Fomoria
Winner(s): JimMorrison -game: BraveNewWorld - Players: 15 - Nations(s): EA Fomoria
Winner(s): Evilhomer -game: Paladin - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Hinnom
Winner(s): Kadelake -game: Strolling 2 - Players: 12 - Nations(s): EA Sauromatia
Winner(s): WingedDog -game: Jotunland - Players: 10 - Nations(s): EA Arcoscephale
Winner(s): Tyrant -game: DeadlyMedley2 - Players: 10 - Nations(s): EA Caelum
Winner(s): Gregstrom -game: Slow Boat to T'ien Ch'i - Players: 10 - Nations(s): EA Lanka
Winner(s): Executor -game: Blitzkrieg - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Mictlan
Winner(s): Isokron -game: Kickabout - Players: 12 - Nations(s): EA Sauromatia
Winner(s): Redeyes -game: Nightfall - Players: 8 - Nations(s): EA Caelum

Mid

Winner(s): Ironhawk -game: Concept of Creation - Players: 20 - Nations(s): MA Pythium
Winner(s): Tyrant -game: Middle Aged -MA- - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA Marignon
Winner(s): Micah -game: Undertow - Players: 12 - Nations(s): MA Shinuyama
Winner(s): Teraswaerto -game: neZ - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA Jotunheim
Winner(s): WraithLord -game: Frechdachs Gangbang (aka Jinxed Frechdachs) - Players: 14 - Nations(s): MA Pythium
Winner(s): Calmon -game: Faerun MA PBEM - Players: 17 - Nations(s): MA Ermor
Winner(s): Evilhomer -game: Slow 10 player game - Players: 10 - Nations(s): MA Oceania
Winner(s): CUnknown -game: Invisible Swarm - Players: 7 - Nations(s): MA Ulm
Winner(s): Ewierl -game: Dark Matter - Players: 12 - Nations(s): MA Pangaea
Winner(s): Baalz -game: Afterthought - Players: 21 - Nations(s): MA R'lyeh
Winner(s): solo,Twan,Meglobob -game: Middle Era, Cradle of Dominion - Players: 10 - Nations(s): MA Ulm,MA Machaka,MA Man
Winner(s): Szumo -game: Jaguar - Players: 9 - Nations(s): MA R'lyeh
Winner(s): Llamabeast,Xietor -game: Alpaca - Players: 11 - Nations(s): MA Pangaea,MA Marignon
Winner(s): WraithLord -game: Dagur - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA Pythium
Winner(s): Xietor -game: Epic Heroes - Players: 12 - Nations(s): MA Shinuyama
Winner(s): Micah -game: Rico's Casual PBEM game - Players: 16 - Nations(s): MA Abysia
Winner(s): Shuma -game: SmokyBat - Players: 14 - Nations(s): MA Shinuyama
Winner(s): Amhazair -game: Armadillo - Players: 21 - Nations(s): MA C'tis
Winner(s): FAJ -game: Atla - Players: 7 - Nations(s): MA Abysia
Winner(s): Cor2 -game: Version 3.08 Newbie game - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA Man
Winner(s): Baalz -game: Bragi - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA Pangaea
Winner(s): WraithLord -game: Hydrant - Players: 15 - Nations(s): MA Ulm
Winner(s): Llamabeast -game: Marmoset - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA Ulm Reborn
Winner(s): Twan -game: King of the Isle - Players: 12 - Nations(s): MA Arcoscephale
Winner(s): IndyPendant -game: Swarm 2.5 - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA R'lyeh
Winner(s): Lolomo -game: Epic Heroes II - Players: 18 - Nations(s): MA Caelum
Winner(s): Zeldor,parcelt -game: Urapara - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA T'ien Ch'i,MA Abysia
Winner(s): Velusion -game: TigerCat - Players: 15 - Nations(s): MA Abysia
Winner(s): Amhazair -game: Uakari - Players: 12 - Nations(s): MA Arga Dis
Winner(s): IndyPendant -game: Silvan - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA Ermor
Winner(s): Xietor -game: Fallacy - Players: 22 - Nations(s): MA Pythium
Winner(s): Sum1lost -game: Aquarium - Players: 15 - Nations(s): MA Mictlan
Winner(s): ChrisPedersen,JimMorrison -game: Glory - Players: 15 - Nations(s): MA Marignon,MA Agartha
Winner(s): sum1lost -game: Empires Rising - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA Pangaea
Winner(s): DonCorazon -game: Andean Zorro - Players: 10 - Nations(s): MA Pythium
Winner(s): Evilhomer -game: Hieronica - Players: 10 - Nations(s): MA Caelum
Winner(s): Calmon -game: RAND REDUX - Players: 13 - Nations(s): MA Ashdod
Winner(s): Juffos -game: Storm - Players: 9 - Nations(s): MA Jotunheim
Winner(s): Nimnio -game: Exterminatus2 - Players: 15 - Nations(s): MA C'tis

Late

Winner(s): Meglobob -game: ImpendingIndustry - Players: 8 - Nations(s): LA Agartha
Winner(s): Jurri -game: Dawggie does Dominions - Players: 15 - Nations(s): LA Mictlan
Winner(s): Calmon -game: The Quick and the Dead - Players: 8 - Nations(s): LA Ermor
Winner(s): Jazzepi -game: Epiphany - Players: 11 - Nations(s): LA T'ien Ch'i
Winner(s): Micah -game: The End of time - Players: 12 - Nations(s): LA Marignon
Winner(s): Ramiro -game: Hidden sings - Players: 13 - Nations(s): LA Ermor
Winner(s): Xox -game: Shadow People - Players: 8 - Nations(s): LA R'lyeh
Winner(s): Hullu -game: Veturi LA - Players: 7 - Nations(s): LA Ermor
Winner(s): Evilhomer -game: Discordia - Players: 18 - Nations(s): LA R'lyeh
Winner(s): Tuidjy -game: NeoXekinima - Players: 7 - Nations(s): LA Ulm Reborn
Winner(s): Meglobob -game: Starfall - Players: 13 - Nations(s): LA Ermor
Winner(s): Kadelake -game: Suricate - Players: 9 - Nations(s): LA Utgard
Winner(s): Ironhawk -game: Epotara - Players: 17 - Nations(s): LA Pythium
Winner(s): Amhazair -game: Sloth - Players: 19 - Nations(s): LA R'lyeh
Winner(s): Karlem -game: Vampirebat - Players: 8 - Nations(s): LA Mictlan
Winner(s): ano -game: Highlander - Players: 19 - Nations(s): LA R'lyeh
Winner(s): Profanicus -game: VesperBat - Players: 15 - Nations(s): LA Midgard
Winner(s): calmon -game: Fracture - Players: 16 - Nations(s): LA Marignon
Winner(s): DonCorazon -game: Alexandria - Players: 12 - Nations(s): LA T'ien Ch'i
Winner(s): Micah -game: The End of Time - Players: 10 - Nations(s): LA Ermor
Winner(s): DryaUnda -game: Loemendor - Players: 9 - Nations(s): LA Ermor
Winner(s): karnoza -game: Alexander - Players: 18 - Nations(s): LA Mictlan
Winner(s): Revolution -game: Corruption - Players: 11 - Nations(s): LA Pangaea
Winner(s): Isokron -game: Doomsday - Players: 10 - Nations(s): LA Abysia
Winner(s): Psycho -game: FallenKingdoms - Players: 8 - Nations(s): LA Man
Winner(s): Toran -game: Methadone - Players: 6 - Nations(s): LA Abysia
Winner(s): Otherling -game: Archaean - Players: 12 - Nations(s): LA Atlantis
Winner(s): licker -game: Buggy - Players: 8 - Nations(s): LA Ulm
Winner(s): AreaOfEffect -game: Collider - Players: 8 - Nations(s): LA Man
Winner(s): fungalreason -game: Forgery - Players: 16 - Nations(s): LA Utgard

Team games

Winners: Micah&Shovah32 -game: Allegiances - Players: 8 - Nations(s): MA R'lyeh&MA Oceania
Winners: Micah&DrPraetorius -game: Allegiances2 - Players: 12 - Nations(s): EA Caelum&EA Agartha
Winners: Wokeye&Everz -game: Agouti - Players: 10 - Nations(s): EA Abysia&EA Lanka
Winners: Zeldor&moderation -game: EpikBattel - Players: 12 - Nations(s): MA Mictlan&MA R'lyeh
Winners: Micah&Lingchih -game: Revenge of Pimping - Players: 16 - Nations(s): LA Ulm&LA Pangaea

Hall of Fame

1 - Micah 7.00/104
2 - Amhazair 4.00/68
3 - WraithLord 4.00/49
4 - Calmon 4.00/48
5 - Evilhomer 4.00/46
6 - Jurri 3.00/47
7 - Baalz 3.00/37
8 - Jazzepi 3.00/34
9 - Kadelake 3.00/34
10- Xietor 2.50/45
11- Meglobob 2.33/31
12- Ironhawk 2.00/37
13- ano 2.00/31
14- DonCorazon 2.00/22
15- Isokron 2.00/22

Burnsaber April 19th, 2010 12:12 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
Wraith, you have not listed LA Caelum, EA Abysia/Ermor/Tir' na O'rg, MA Bandar Log and MA Eriu at all in that latest post (a'k'a 0 win nations) in the "Victorious Nations" section. WAD?

WraithLord April 19th, 2010 12:17 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
I'll double check that later in the DB. If they have no wins then indeed this makes sense. Either way I'll get to the bottom of this. Thanks for the heads up!

Kuritza April 19th, 2010 01:31 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
MA Bandar Log is not a 'zero win nation'.

Stagger Lee April 19th, 2010 03:13 PM
Re: New HoF brain storm
 
I know this is a lot of work. Thanks for taking the time to put it together. :)

Quote:
Originally Posted by WraithLord (Post 741179)
Early(44.000000)

EA Sauromatia : 6.00
EA Fomoria : 5.00
EA Caelum : 4.00
EA Lanka : 3.00
EA Helheim : 3.00
EA Hinnom : 3.00
EA T'ien Ch'i : 2.33
EA Ulm : 2.00
EA Niefelheim : 2.00
EA Marveni : 2.00
EA C'tis : 2.00
EA Kailasa : 2.00
EA Vanheim : 1.00
EA Pangaea : 1.00
EA R'lyeh : 1.00
EA Agartha : 1.00
EA Niefeleim : 1.00
EA Arcoscephale : 1.00
EA Mictlan : 1.00
EA Oceania : 0.33
EA Yomi : 0.33
Should Niefelheim be 3.00?

Also, I see Arga Dis and Ulm Reborn in the list. Were mod nations included in this?


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