Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

Hi folks,

We've had a bit of an influx of new players on IRC and I'm hosting a small quick game for them. It's simple and plain.

Map: Land of Pareto Efficiency by Elmoki (great map maker)
with 4 fixed land only starts
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showp...20&postcount=4
Also download the original map to get the image file:
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showt...620#post716620

Era: Early
Players: 4
Magic site freq: 45
Gold multiple: 100
Resource multiple: 100
Supply: 100
Research: normal
Independents: 5
Renaming on
Mods:
none


Hall of Fame: 10
Graphs: On

Host Schedule:
24h until otherwise requested

Victory:
Last one standing

Other rules:
Open diplomacy. Make or break your agreements at your own risk.
New players only. I'll be watching you :)

I am not playing.

Nations:

1) Ctis - ErikM
2) T'ien Ch'i - Kupiko
3) Caelum - Jorus
4) Pablomatic - Helheim

And here is the game page on Llamaserver:
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo....rniciousPeanut

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (recruiting 1/4)
 

Hi count me in please..If i can choose nation then i choose Tien chi

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (recruiting 1/4)
 

You can choose. You've got it Kupiko.

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (recruiting 1/4)
 

I'd like to play as Caelum.

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (recruiting 1/4)
 

Done Jorus

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (recruiting 3/4)
 

I'll try Helheim then to round this out if you'll have me.

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (recruiting 3/4)
 

Cool. You are in and we're doing pretenders. Good luck dudes!

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Upload pretenders)
 

Game is up on llamaserver. Does everyone know how to join? Send your pretenders to pretenders (at) llamaserver (dot) net with the subject "PerniciousPeanut".

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

Game is on guys. Check the OP for the link on llamaserver to follow the status. And good luck. Keep me posted on how it goes. I can't see your turns so it's my only way to follow.

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

And if one of you wants to coadmin and learn about it let me know. I'll set you up with the admin pass. It's quite easy to admin.

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

Yaaay! Game, and I got my forum account approved too.

If people want to contact me for realtime diplomacy I hang around the #dominions IRC channel with the same name, and you can PM me for my MSN or IRC.

:D

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

Don't forget to enable your PMs! They're not enabled by default.

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

FYI I can't get the turn file to work. In-game, Pernicious Peanut doesn't show up to be selected. The 2h file is in the correct location (ie. saved games>pernicious peanut). I know how to play multi-player, so it's no error on my part that I know of. I've requested help from llamabeast. Anyway, that's my holdup right now.

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

Dominions 3 does not recognise save game folders that have a space in them. So if you have named the save game folder "pernicious peanut" then it won't display under the list of games. You need to name the folder "perniciouspeanut" or "pernicious_peanut" instead for Dominions to acknowledge it as an actual game folder (ie. Remove the 'space')

Or of course you can just use any name that doesn't have a space in it, it doesn't have to be related to the actual name of the game in any way. "pp" "mygame" "MP_game" "Or_whatever". You are fine as long as the .2h file is inside the folder, and the name of the folder has no spaces in it.

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

Thanks Calahan, that was the answer.

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

Thanks for helping Calahan and rdonj. My internet is total crap today.

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

Three turns in and I'm already worrying about a two front war due to seeing black candles. :(

Also am I correct in reading from the research graph that Caelum also took an awake pretender?

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

This looks to be pretty small map so early engagement with other player is real possibility :) I usually played on much bigger maps.

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

It's a small map. But 15 provinces per player. Which is pretty normal.

Me on checking in today: "Why hello there Tien Chi, how about a ceasefir- oh, turn submitted already."

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

Ah don't worry my tien chi is very peaceful :)

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

Kupiko, post if you need extra time. We'd hate to see you stale again, but I'm not watching the timer closely on this game so you have to ask me.

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

sorry guys but i had to leave unexpectedly and will je back on thursday evening. Guess it's a few stales from me then unless u wanna just jump in Maer and only build some army no other moves necessary so i have something to act with after i get back. It's a pity cause it looked like a good start.

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

Okay, I can cover a couple turns. Sounds fine.

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

I really appreciate it thanks!

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

Okay guys. I'm covering for Kupiko. I won't attack any of you if you do the same :) But be warned. I'll respond aggressively on Kupiko's behalf if required.

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

Sorry for staling last turn. I'm back. Not that anyone noticed my absence it seems.

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

Sorry. I was out with the kids and couldn't watch the timer. I usually try to keep an eye on it but I can't make any promises. However, you didn't seem to get in any trouble. Everyone is playing nice so far :)

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

Hi Maer i'll be home tonight and i can play next turn, maybe even replay last one. Thx for all your effort :-)

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

okay. I'll switch it over

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

Didn't mean to condemn anyone for my mistake, just a comment.

It didn't turn out to be too bad of a stale, you're right.

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

ErikM is coadmin now. So he can also help with extensions.

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Bug?
 

Possible map bug discovered: #23 (Tirannea) borders #34 (Robber Home). They're not adjacent on the graphical map.

Maerlande, I suggest you provide a ruling on whether we ought to
1. play with the connection as is, possibly treating it as a gate/portal/tunnel
2. refrain from using the connection, playing by the graphical map

Either works for me, as long as it's consistent.

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

I suggest you use the connection. There is no way to watch that it isn't used.

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

Only about an hour left and Helheim's turn was missing, so I postponed hosting rather than have him stale again.

Is something up, Pablomatic?

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

Sorry, turn's in now. I thought I had sent it in, then went to bed, woke up this AM and saw a message "hosting in 6 hours" so I sent my turn in this morning. You saved me ErikM. Thanks and apologies. No problems except mental ones on my end.

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

Could we delay game for 12 hours or so, I won't have access to a Dom 3 computer until 2200 Sunday, Caelum

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

Delay set.

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

Hey, what happened? I thought we had a delay set, yet I received the new turn with a stale turn notice.
If possible, I would like to replay the turn and have the opportunity to only issue the build orders I missed, but it is not a tragedy if we continue as it is.
But what about next time...?
george/Caelum

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

Lost turn as well but i don't understand i sent turn file so i should have it. Well pbem has it's shortcomings.

Declaration of War
 

War has been declared between the expansionsist Tien Chi and the peaceful peoples of Caelum due to Tien Chi's unprovoked attack through an "illegal" border on Caelum's defenseless province of Robbers Home.

All peace loving peoples are invited to unite and push the Tien Chi hordes back to refuse pits from which they have spawned.

Jorus/Caelum

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

To quote one of the RISK cards in my expanded game set, One World Dominion:

"I CONDEMN YOUR MILITARISM.
You make a strongly-worded speech at the United Nations, and practically everyone supports your motion to pass a resolution castigating the offending party.
This card has no effect."

(Considering turn. Is anyone else interested in a possible extension to do diplomacy with?)

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

The lizards of Ctis are pleased to announce that they have reached Construction 4, can make Skull Mentors, Thistle Maces etc. for trade, and would like to buy Earth gems or a Dwarven Hammer.

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

~1h left with no turn from Tien Chi in. This would be a really bad time to stale, so I'm putting up an extension for them. More mental problems going around? ;)

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

Only house painting :) takes some time but i managed thx.

Glorious Victory by Tien Chin at Gname Peaks !!!
 

But before you celebrate too much and send your turn in (oh, but you already have) you might want to think about those units you slaughtered - did they have wings? Where did they come from? Is it an empty bag you're holding?

With all due regards, Caelum

Game Delay
 

I thinnk it is considerate that the game was delayed for Tien Chin even though unrequested (he does need help), and there still is the unanswered question why the game was not actually delayed when I requested it and the game was supposedly delayed - but wasn't. I ended up with a stale turn!

The real point here is that we should be consistent - otherwise we could get in the area of suspected favoritism. My personal feeling is that the game should only be delayed if the player concerned cares enough to ask for an extension. And then it should be given if possible (unless it becomes too frequent).

Otherwise, let's just remove the deadlines.

I happened to have time today and noticed TC's lack of a submission. I was considering changing my moves accordingly, luckily I didn't. My strategy would have failed miserably if he needed and got an extension I was not aware of (I don't normally check this thread).

In conclusion, I am not complaining - just request that we are consistent.

Jorus

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

Jorus: I really thought I had delayed the game when you asked for it. When you reported the result, I then tried to contact Maerlande to ask if it merited a rollback but didn't get a reply, and then the next turn arrived.

I agree that we should be consistent. I'm not sure where to draw the line, though. Thoughts, others?

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

Jorus,

I reread the thread and you requested a delay on the 24th and ErikM granted it. It's even recorded in the admin log on the game page. So I'm not sure why you didn't get your turn to work. Perhaps you missent it?

But generally, it's pure kindness to watch the timer and give unrequested extensions. I don't usually do it because it takes more time than I have. So I don't see any inconsitency unless you requested another extension after the 24th.

If you really need an extension, PM me. I don't check this thread but I get email confirmations of PMs and reply immediately. Except for sleeping time Central Mountain Time, I'm near by.

Re: Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running)
 

ErikM,
I know you tried to arrange the extension, but what's not clear to me (and to you?) is why it didn't work. I have no complaint at all.

Maerlande,
Sorry, but apparently there is a mis-understanding. I asked for the extension, ErikM thought he had arranged it (and so posted) but the server processed the turn on schedule ignoring the extension - before I ever had a chance to submit my orders. ErikM indicates he tried to contact you about a rollback, but as I had indicated at the time it was not worth the effort. And the matter dropped.
I still vote for consistency and not arbitrary extensions. It just causes problems.

Regards, Jorus