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sansanjuan April 24th, 2010 11:39 PM

Enslaved Tartarian keeps prophet status?
 
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Anyone seen this before? This is immediatly post-battle. Perhaps it will reconcile and fix itself next turn?

-ssj

Gregstrom April 25th, 2010 04:03 AM

Re: Enslaved Tartarian keeps prophet status?
 
I've seen it before, and the status remains. IIRC, they don't get H3 if you GoR them.

Deathjester April 25th, 2010 01:14 PM

Re: Enslaved Tartarian keeps prophet status?
 
They remain a prophet and keep their H3. I have an example of that in a current game.

Gregstrom April 25th, 2010 01:24 PM

Re: Enslaved Tartarian keeps prophet status?
 
Are you sure you didn't Charm it? Charm =/= GoR.

Knai April 25th, 2010 02:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Deathjester (Post 742211)
They remain a prophet and keep their H3. I have an example of that in a current game.

However, they become your prophet, and spread your dominion. I found that out trying to dominion kill someone with a mercenary prophet. It didn't work.

Edi April 25th, 2010 02:34 PM

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This is not a bug, it's a feature. It was that way already in Dominions 3 and IIRC KO confirmed that it was intentional once when somebody asked about it. That's why it's not in the bug list.

Stavis_L April 25th, 2010 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Gregstrom (Post 742213)
Are you sure you didn't Charm it? Charm =/= GoR.

The screenshot shows a unit without equipment slots, so it's definitely an enslavement vs. a charm.

Charmed prophets retain their "prophet" status (including their stat bonuses, as well as their H3 ability.)

I've never successfully enslaved a prophet before, so I don't know what happens if you GoR a prophet unit, or whether they retain prophet bonuses.

There was some question last time this was raised as to whether the "donor" nation (the one whose prophet got charmed/enslaved) could promote another prophet in this case. Don't know if the answer is different whether the prophet is enslaved vs. charmed away.

Sombre April 27th, 2010 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Stavis_L (Post 742255)
The screenshot shows a unit without equipment slots, so it's definitely an enslavement vs. a charm.

Deathjester didn't post a screenshot.

Edi April 27th, 2010 07:53 AM

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He refers to the OP screenshot.

A charmed/enslaved prophet counts as killed for the original owner, so they can later appoint a new one.

FAJ April 27th, 2010 08:46 AM

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If the enslaving player gains a prophet this way, when he does not have one already, does that deny him the ability to appoint a new prophet?

Edi April 27th, 2010 10:14 AM

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Yes.

Gandalf Parker April 27th, 2010 11:26 AM

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DOH of the Day?
Player sends his prophet to an arena thinking it will get rid of him since he has someone much more powerful in mind for it. Another player charms it in arena which returns it to the capital, hidden, as a prophet for that other player which begins preaching up a storm.


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