Comprehensive Undate?
 

I would really appreciate a comprehensive update that covers everything in one file. It's irritating downloading and installing 6 different files to update the game.

Please Devs, I will pay for it if you want me to. Just don't make me download 100 different files just to get the game up to date.

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Just a point this is only ever helpful when you first install so just bought the game.
The only other time you do it is putting on another PC so very rare.
If you want multiple installs just patch one & copy it which also carries your user settings over as a bonus.
When a new patch comes out you just apply it as you already have the others.

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No need to get all defensive, my computer just died(again, argh) and it was annoying having to re-download the patches. Thank God for CD version though.

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I play a lot of old games and since tracking down patches for them can be a PITA I've found that picking up a cheap jump drive and simply dumping all the patches onto that can be helpful for emergencies.

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That's what i do, For an even easier way, install the game and patch it in there, so you can take the game everywhere, have backup though, constant reading tends to kill it faster than usual

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Comprehensive updates are pretty much the norm nowadays. SP is one of the few games I know that still require the user to manually download all patches and manually check to apply them in the correct order.

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Back in the day, small patches were preferred so that people didn't have to make the full download at 56k every time there was an update. Since SP is such an old game platform, maybe some of that mentality is carrying over.

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Yes, well, it's now 2010 and download bandwidth is measured in Mb/s pretty much everywhere...

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Anyone who's been playing the game awhile will have patched the game as it's been released and would have ( should have ...) copies tucked away either on a CD or a USB stick

Anyone starting from scratch has, as of the 4.25 release 7 patches to install ranging in size from 1.8 MB up to 17.6 MB for a total of 52 MB.

A consolidation patch that would upgrade the game in one go would be somewhere around 41 MB

For anyone with high speed internet access the difference between a 52mb DL and a 41mb DL is trivial which leaves the only reason for complaining about this that it requires you open 7 files instead of one.

Despite the assertion that "it's now 2010 and download bandwidth is measured in Mb/s pretty much everywhere" This is NOT true everywhere. There are lot's of people who still rely on dialup service and I'm one of them and for me 46.6 kbps is as good as it gets and file transfers are more typically 36.5 kbps making a 40 MB upload a three + hour chore.

I know I am not alone in still having dialup and I have no intention of forcing everyone to DL a 40+MB file when the actual patch might only be a couple of MB just because a tiny handful of people with high speed access may find it inconvenient to have to open more than one patch when they are first setting up the game



Don

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Fair enough. I don't keep patches around precisely because bandwidth is cheap. ;)
I was just stating that of all the people I know, I'm among the slowest in having only 3MBit DSL. Even extremely rural areas have high speed access here, not to mention that even mobile internet is currently up to 7 MBit (with a few offers at 14 MBit).

How about at least offering an all-inclusive update to the latest major version (in this case, 4.0) for re-installs?

Even in the world of Shrapnelgames, SP is the ONLY game that requires users to download a bunch of patches instead of a single one.

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If you are really that fussed why not back it up, a basic CD would do it no need to zip or anything there should be space, second drive makes more sense mind.
I would much rather they spent their time developing the game rather than mucking about fixing what aint broke.
How many other games give you a new patch & develop it year on year my favorites are Revised FOO, ATGMs able to move & fire if have giros & recent changes to ammo loadouts. Oh & the revision to radio contact rules.
These changes have a big impact on the way the game plays & just thought of another the 5 key function that saves me a bucket load of time every game I play.

Sorry & I am in no way connected to Shrapnel or Camo games but you want him to spend time compiling it & sending down his band width to save you 10 minutes.
Got something important to do, no your going to spend some leisure time playing the game.
Hope all you guys moaning have at least bought it & are not expecting him to do it for free.
Sorry but its this attitude that really pisses me off I see a fix has been put out for Vista & Win7 with a request for feedback.
20 downloads I think how many people took 10 minutes to say it worked do you think.
Nah cant be arsed despite the fact it could be looked at & included in the next patch if it works. But then that would be another 10 minutes gone downloading that.:mad::mad::mad:

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The game is superb, make no mistake. I bought both this and MBT. But as with the issue about the manual in a proper format (PDF), it's simply a matter of making it more accessible to new buyers.

Yes, the support is awesome, and Camo is one of the few developers that maintain a game this long after release and still find time for new features. But occasionally, a bit more comfort for those sitting on the fence or those trying to convince friends to buy this game should be possible.

Compiling patches is an automated process. With one or two major patches a year, an additional hour to provide a cumultative update isn't something I as a developer would lose sleep about.

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I have no problems running any of the SP games under Vista. What should I say? "Yep, the issue I never had appears to have been fixed for those that did"?

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May well be the point is priority low on the to do list no fun & the Vista thing was not aimed at you just highlighting general attitude. If you cant spend 10 minutes do so something for yourself you sure cant to help someone else. Both Vista machines I fixed were not mine but I tried it on one & sent to the other then reported the results.

Strangely you have probably spent a reasonable chunk of time asking for this & yes it would be nice but so. Just because the majority do something the rest dont have to & this is by no means a main stream game so cant be compared.
How about they do the patch but you now need the CD in the drive to play it register or have an internet connection etc that would bring them in line.

Are you seriously telling me saving 10 minutes of your time would boost game sales?
Forget game play or the fact they may have downloaded the free version.
Refer to my above point this game is user freindly plug & play.

Points made they may get the inclination at some point but the impact is insignificant while a change to the way the game works or even unit details is not so why not concentrate on that.
They do seem to have a knack for coming up with new ideas so I say let them get on with it. Tis probably the only part they enjoy & why you still get support because most of it is data entry etc, tedious work.
Going to shut up now before I get in trouble

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I have bought the games, thank you very much. I give, I don't just take. Imp, I don't know why you are getting so defensive. We are NOT degrading the game or criticizing the developers. Considering the fact both WinSPMBT and WinSPWW2 are the best selling games on the site, I think it shows we care. I was just making a suggestion.....no need to get all defensive.....it's all good.... :)