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GrudgeBringer May 8th, 2010 12:49 PM

Sieging question
 
If I am being beieged in a fort and I drop in 2 or 3 castors of Rain of Stones.

1. Will it hurt the forts garrison if I DON'T have it set to break siege.

2. Is it considered a Magical attack and will hurt the Eterel beings.

If I don't kill them all and set to retreat, they SHOULD go back to a friendly province (if adjacent) and NOT the castle garrson.

As long as I am asking unusual questions...Will the robe of Calius protect agianst ..king of Banefire or that type of attack?

It says protects agianst all elements and Magic so I wpould assume so. Never ran in to this mutt before....grrrr

Thanks

Quitti May 8th, 2010 12:52 PM

Re: Sieging question
 
If by drop you mean cloud trapeze or teleport, they will end up inside the fort, not fighting the army besieging it, if you own the fort.

llamabeast May 8th, 2010 12:55 PM

Re: Sieging question
 
I don't think rain of stones works against ethereal beings (or rather, they still get their 75% save).

I don't believe there is any way to protect against Banefire. I'm fairly sure the robe wouldn't help.

rdonj May 8th, 2010 01:25 PM

Re: Sieging question
 
Banefire is armor piercing non-elemental damage. It's basically like getting shot in the face with a crossbow. Only luck and protection will help you with surviving banefire attacks.

The robe of calius just adds to your elemental resistance and magic resistance stats. Nothing so interesting :)

llamabeast May 8th, 2010 01:36 PM

Re: Sieging question
 
I don't know if magic resistance protects you from the decay effect of banefire, perhaps?

rdonj May 8th, 2010 01:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by llamabeast (Post 744979)
I don't know if magic resistance protects you from the decay effect of banefire, perhaps?

Oh, yes. The decay effect appears to be mr negates.

GrudgeBringer May 8th, 2010 02:25 PM

Re: Sieging question
 
OK...then how the Heck do I

1.counter the effects

2. Kill it

Quitti May 8th, 2010 02:35 PM

Re: Sieging question
 
1. MR + high hp and/or protection.
2. Hit it. With sufficient force.

chrispedersen May 9th, 2010 12:58 AM

Re: Sieging question
 
Need more info to give good advice on tactics.
If you are playing your usual arco..
I'd say thug up some oreos and have them seduce.

Hell, if you have access to black hearts, give one to any big tart you have handy and just have him assassinate without stealth.

go in with fly boots and two water bottles... Hmm on second thought if you hit the banefire caster you want your assassin to be smaller than the water elementals.

But then just fly up and whack him.

LoloMo May 9th, 2010 02:22 AM

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You can assassinate without stealth but with the black heart? That's good to know! So you can assassinate only when you are under siege in that case?

Gregstrom May 9th, 2010 02:57 AM

Re: Sieging question
 
That is both amusing and useful :D

chrispedersen May 9th, 2010 03:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LoloMo (Post 745046)
You can assassinate without stealth but with the black heart? That's good to know! So you can assassinate only when you are under siege in that case?

well thats almost right.
Your opponent and you have to share the same province. And him not stealthy. but he doesn't actually have to be sieging you.

Just the only time I think that happens is in provinces with forts.

Soyweiser May 9th, 2010 06:42 AM

Re: Sieging question
 
Another Sieging question. When attacking a fort, who gets the income of the province? Attacker or defender? Or none?

Gregstrom May 9th, 2010 12:07 PM

Re: Sieging question
 
It's split 50/50, IIRC.

chrispedersen May 9th, 2010 09:45 PM

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it is???

I don't know the actual answer, but I thought the person who held the province got it.....

Wonder about sites to tho... if you have a site that allows you to recruit a mummy... which side can use it....

Inindo May 10th, 2010 12:50 AM

Re: Sieging question
 
Speaking as a nation in a game (losing) with 1 fort (besieged) and no provinces, my income according to the top right corner stat is the same as the besieged province income so I think the fort owner gets it all.

Jack_Trowell May 10th, 2010 05:16 AM

Re: Sieging question
 
No, I can confirm that you each get 50% of the total income.

I once had a solo game with a Mictlan (AI) dead in a few turns by dominion kill (as usual), and a scout of mine did siege the castle, and my income was increased during the "siege".


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