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llamabeast June 14th, 2010 06:43 PM

LlamaServer oddities
 
I made the apparently always deadly mistake of having a very slight poke around with the llamaserver this evening, and it seems like it might be behaving slightly oddly. This post is a request for people to report any odd behaviour they see with it over the next day or so.

I have to go to bed now, and will be out then till late on tomorrow night. BUT, if any odd behaviour is observed, please let me know and I will try to fix it then.

llamabeast June 14th, 2010 06:53 PM

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Hmm, seems actually like it might have stabilised. Fingers crossed!

Lingchih June 14th, 2010 07:54 PM

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Yeah, InversionsRedux didn't autohost for several hours, even though all turns were in. I was about to force host it, and then suddenly, it decided to host.

Dark Kitty June 14th, 2010 08:50 PM

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I just got "Sorry, this isn't a real game. Have you been messing with my URL?" for the Vendetta game and it's not listed in the Games currently running, but someone reported an error turn a few hours before in the game thread.

seryozha June 15th, 2010 12:53 AM

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The Forgotten_Realms game has dissapeared. I think other games with all the files received were also stuck for hours before dissapeared. Can you fix this please llamabeast? Thanks

seryozha June 15th, 2010 02:24 AM

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Sorry Llama, I didn't see your email before. Thanks!

legolasjrt June 15th, 2010 09:22 AM

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The vendetta game not listed in the game currently running.

Greyjoy June 15th, 2010 10:36 AM

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He sent an email out for Vendetta as well, I'm not sure if he tried to fix it yet.

Agusti June 18th, 2010 02:42 AM

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Seems there are a lot of games not running now (the turns are not being processed). ¿Any problem?

Viajero June 18th, 2010 05:22 AM

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Yes, saw it too, all the turns are in but the new turn is not being generated.

WraithLord June 18th, 2010 05:44 AM

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Both Sharivar1 and YARG2 should have hosted but haven't yet.

anonymity June 18th, 2010 09:13 AM

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It isn't sending out turn reminders either, mmight2 is just past its timer but I never received a notice 6 hrs ago like I normally do.

llamabeast June 18th, 2010 09:41 AM

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GRAAAH!

So this was an unrelated problem to the other one, but has ended up being more annoying.

Some game was taking an infinite amount of time to host. That's a dom3 bug, not a llamaserver bug. While waiting for the game to finish hosting the server can't do anything else, which is why it appeared to have stopped working.

Well unfortunately, that meant I had to log in and prod it again. The llamaserver really doesn't do well with me prodding it, because it does things and I do things in parallel and bad things happen. The bad thing that happened this time was that somehow all the maps got deleted. That's pretty bad - that set of maps aren't stored together anywhere else. And I didn't back them up. :o STUPID LLAMA. For some reason I backed up the mods, and the code, but not the maps.

Anyway, this has no effect at all on games currently running, but will mean that any new game that attempts to start will disappear. I've therefore put up a notice on the front page of the llamaserver to say that people should avoid starting games until I've restored the maps. I can restore any individual map on demand quite quickly though, so it shouldn't really cause problems.

I think what I will do is make a new page "Old Map and Mod browser" showing all the old maps which existed, and then start again with the llamaserver map list, with just a small set of maps. If you want to use any map from the old list which isn't on the new list, you'll just need to upload it again.

Man, how annoying.

Meglobob June 18th, 2010 09:54 AM

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Sharivar1 has completely disappeared off the llamaserver after trying to host.

It apparently got the Ngt etc...message, saying someone had sent in a faulty 2h file but I reckon this is not the case at all, just llamaserver having a mad fit.

WingedDog June 18th, 2010 09:54 AM

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Thank you llama for fast reaction and all your efforts!

Viajero June 18th, 2010 10:00 AM

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Games are still not being hosted, i.e. :
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Harkonnen

I presume llama is still working on it?

llamabeast June 18th, 2010 10:04 AM

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Meglobob - that's hopefully fixed, I've just sent an e-mail to all affected players.

Viajero - I think it just has a massive backlog to get through.

Kadelake June 18th, 2010 10:44 AM

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The game Apotheosis have disappeared. It hadn't started yet so I'll just re-created it. Just thought I should let you know.

TwoBits June 18th, 2010 10:50 AM

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Countdown has disappeared as well. When I last checked before I left for work, it was still there, and all the turns had been submitted, but it hadn't hosted yet.

Meglobob June 18th, 2010 01:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by llamabeast (Post 749305)
Meglobob - that's hopefully fixed, I've just sent an e-mail to all affected players.

Viajero - I think it just has a massive backlog to get through.

Thanks Llama:)

Sharivar1 hosted correctly with no problems.:)

Zeldor June 18th, 2010 01:29 PM

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Make Preponderance_2 appear again too :)

Kadelake June 18th, 2010 02:14 PM

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Can you restore Cradle of Dominions? I would be appreciate it :)

rdonj June 18th, 2010 02:52 PM

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YARG2 is broken in new and more interesting ways. Oh great llamabeast, we implore you to save this rather battered game. More details in PM.

llamabeast June 18th, 2010 04:30 PM

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Preponderance2 was a game waiting for pretenders?

By Cradle you mean the map?

I'm afraid Sunday's going to be the day. Tomorrow will be a busy day and it's my last day with my girlfriend before she goes away for a while for work experience in London.

Incidentally a number of games (inc YARG2) had got their turn numbers out of sync. I've just fixed them all.

Zeldor June 18th, 2010 04:33 PM

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Preponderance_2, with _ in it :) And yes, it had 9 pretenders already! :)

legolasjrt June 18th, 2010 11:15 PM

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My pass in vendetta game it does not work... for what??

llamabeast June 19th, 2010 04:56 AM

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Well come on, I emailed everyone in every game which had it's admin password wiped, does no-one read their e-mail? As I explained there, the admins in the affected games need to contact me for new PMs. legolasjrt, I'll PM you.

Similarly the front page of the llamaserver (and I think my post above) explains that any game attempting to start at the moment will disappear, unless the admin contacts me first telling me which map he needs (and I've replied saying I've sorted it, which will happen on Sunday).

Zeldor June 19th, 2010 05:27 AM

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So disappeared games will return by Sunday and we should just wait?

Kadelake June 19th, 2010 09:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by llamabeast (Post 749373)
By Cradle you mean the map?

Yes, I was starting a new game (Apotheosis) which disappeared. I tried to re-create it as Apotheosis2 but it didn't show up on the games list. I guess it's because the map was deleted?

Have fun today, we can wait until tomorrow no problem :)

llamabeast June 19th, 2010 12:45 PM

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Yep, Sunday is the day. You'll need to tell me which games though, I have no way of seeing which ones disappeared as opposed to just being old.

Zeldor June 19th, 2010 01:57 PM

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Preponderance_2 ! :)

llamabeast June 20th, 2010 05:32 PM

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Well, I'm afraid I didn't have much time today after all. Looks like tomorrow's the day instead - sorry.

Re cradle, llamaserver now has cradle.map and cradle_tigerstripes.map. If you go to the map and mod browser, the list of maps there is now the list of maps I've been able to restore from my own copy of dominions. Tomorrow I am going to try to make it easy to see what maps have been lost and to help me restore them.

Kadelake June 21st, 2010 03:23 AM

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Thanks Llama! Creating the game worked fine now :)

Finalgenesis June 21st, 2010 08:42 AM

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Let us pay homage to the great one :bow:

Ironhawk June 21st, 2010 01:13 PM

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:bow:

All hail Llamabeast, Lord of Servers, Master of Near and Far, the Sword of Judgement, King of Sparrows.

rdonj June 21st, 2010 03:46 PM

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Nostalgia 2 has disappeared... have sent some PMs on the issue.

WraithLord June 21st, 2010 04:02 PM

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:bow:

Yes, I'm a believer too, of the llamas that be.

llamabeast June 21st, 2010 06:36 PM

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WELL, two things:

1) More currently running games had the disappeary bug, which I am fairly certain I've now tracked down and understood, and which I believe is fixed (although I did think that before). I've emailed all players in those games and will restore them tomorrow.

2) It seems I lied about having time to fix the starting games on Monday as well. I've only just got to my computer this evening at 11.30pm, so it would be very silly to work on it now because I will just be a mess tomorrow. Well Tuesday is *almost certainly* the day. I will do my best, for certain.

I'm sure I was meant to be doing something or other for Zeldor, but I can't think what... if only he reminded me sometimes...

Zeldor June 21st, 2010 06:55 PM

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Preponderance_2 is still missing, just that :)

Hadrian_II June 23rd, 2010 12:57 PM

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any updates?

militarist June 23rd, 2010 06:46 PM

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Llama, should we expect new version of lategame summons for prep2?

llamabeast June 23rd, 2010 07:05 PM

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OKAY, I believe I've fixed everything. Fingers crossed! Let me know if you have any outstanding problems.

llamabeast June 23rd, 2010 07:12 PM

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militarist: Just releasing it now.

llamabeast June 24th, 2010 06:29 AM

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Oh by the way, I also fixed the llamaserver clock, which was running about 15 minutes fast. Hmm, perhaps I should schedule it to sync with the NIST server once a day, since obviously the computer clock is a little bit poor (15 minutes over a few months is quite bad). I will do that if I remember.


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