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Groundworm August 31st, 2010 02:38 PM

Waspworld (NEWBIE GAME), running
 
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I've played in 3 multiplayer Dominions games, so I still classify myself as pretty new. Trying to find people with similar amounts of experience. First-time players are welcome, as are people with a little more experience- say at most 10 MP games.

Era: late age
newbs only
8 players
mods: CBM 1.6
map: Shahrivar (no special sites)
disallowed nations: R'lyeh, Atlantis
site frequency: 45
score graphs off
hall of fame: 15 entries
renaming on
diplomacy is binding

Turns will initially be on a 24-hour timer, and will be increased as requested. Extensions will also be granted as needed (though hopefully not frequently).

1) Bogarus- Groundworm
2) Mictlan- mockingbird
3) Ermor- puntocom
4) C'tis- Allium
5) Pythium- Ragnars Wolves
6) Agartha- Fantomen
7) Caelum- Marmaduke
8) Man- camobeercan

mockingbird August 31st, 2010 02:40 PM

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I'd like to play as Mictlan, please.

puntocom August 31st, 2010 02:48 PM

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Hello!

I will play with Ermor.

Allium August 31st, 2010 02:52 PM

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Please sign me up as Atlantis.

Ragnars Wolves August 31st, 2010 03:10 PM

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Let me try Pythium:eek:

Ragnars Wolves August 31st, 2010 03:15 PM

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Just a thought...if you only have 1 underwater nation, they have for the most part unrestricted expansion and the security of water. From what I understand, whenever this map is played (and it iS a GREAT map) there usually are no water nations allowed.

Just an opinion, your game.

Also, Thank you for having a game with CBM 1.6 and not 10 other new mods I know nothing about.

mockingbird August 31st, 2010 03:21 PM

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If it's not too much trouble, would you mind putting in a link to the map on the first post? Thanks.

I presume this will be on llamaserver?

Allium August 31st, 2010 03:28 PM

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I'm willing to change to C'tis if the water thing is a problem.

Groundworm August 31st, 2010 03:34 PM

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Welcome, everybody! I've updated the first post to include you all.

Ragnars Wolves- you raise a good point, and I appreciate you speaking your mind on it. I don't know if a water nation would be overpowered or not, but there is that possibility. And since Allium is considerate and agreeable enough to change to C'tis, this problem is solved. Thanks to you both.

mockingbird: I have linked the map in the first post as requested. And yes, I'm using llamaserver as the host.

I'm quite pleased at the people we've got involved in this game so far, and look forward to playing with you. :)

Fantomen August 31st, 2010 04:42 PM

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I'm not a newbie I guess, but I have played in less than 10 MP games. If you'd have me I'll play Agartha.

Allium August 31st, 2010 04:48 PM

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Uh, I don't think that's the right map file. The original is here: http://forum.shrapnelgames.com//atta...6&d=1214247273

I think this is the map file that's up on llamaserver as shahrivar_nosites, but as you have the original I don't think we actually need that since only the server looks at it:

mockingbird August 31st, 2010 05:08 PM

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That map crashes out Dominions for me. Any ideas what might be wrong?

Allium August 31st, 2010 05:13 PM

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(Pokes around in file). Ah, the image file name didn't match. I fixed it.

Ragnars Wolves August 31st, 2010 06:10 PM

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We all have to have the same version.....the one he is talking about is Shawriver...The Sombre Version.

You may have fixed it but it may have unbalanced stats etc. If you go to maps it should be listed there.

Groundworm August 31st, 2010 06:17 PM

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Thanks for uploading that map file, Allium. I don't know why it crashed on mockingbird's machine when it worked on mine, but hopefully this solves the problem.

Ragnar- I think the version that Allium posted is the Sombre version that was edited by Squirreloid to remove the unbalanced sited.

Fantomen, welcome aboard. Happy to have someone with a little more experience- maybe I'll learn a thing or two by watching how you play. At the very least- you get to deal with Ermor. :)

puntocom August 31st, 2010 06:22 PM

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You can be calm Groundworm, this will be my first time with Ermor xD

Marmaduke August 31st, 2010 06:24 PM

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Hello, I would like to try Caelum.

Groundworm August 31st, 2010 06:27 PM

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Fair enough, puntocom. Marmaduke, welcome.

One more spot!

Allium August 31st, 2010 06:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Groundworm (Post 756088)
Thanks for uploading that map file, Allium. I don't know why it crashed on mockingbird's machine when it worked on mine, but hopefully this solves the problem.

Ragnar- I think the version that Allium posted is the Sombre version that was edited by Squirreloid to remove the unbalanced sited.

Yeah, I just changed it to look for a graphic file named Shahrivar Som.tga instead of Shahrivar_Som.tga

Ragnars Wolves August 31st, 2010 06:43 PM

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Even better...thanks Allium, tht is one of my favorite SP maps and if it is better now, Yippeeee

Fantomen August 31st, 2010 07:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Groundworm (Post 756088)
Fantomen, welcome aboard. Happy to have someone with a little more experience- maybe I'll learn a thing or two by watching how you play. At the very least- you get to deal with Ermor. :)

Great, happy to be in!

It was actually me who uploaded the sharival_nosites.map to llamaserver. If that's the one we're using, everyone needs a tga file named Shahrivar_Som.tga. You can just make a copy of the other sharivar tga and rename it.

Changing the path in the .map file on your own computer will only solve the problem for SP tests but not for the actual mp game, since it is the .map file on llamaserver that is used in that case.

Groundworm August 31st, 2010 07:41 PM

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So... I'm confused. I've got a working file of Shahrivar with no sites locally on my computer (actually, I have 2). But when I'm putting the game up on llamaserver, which map file do I need to use? I don't think the ones currently on llamaserver have the no-site version of Shahrivar.

Should I upload one of my copies that works to llamaserver?

Edit: never mind, I just noticed the Shahrivar: nosites map on llamaserver. Will that work?

Fantomen August 31st, 2010 08:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Groundworm (Post 756101)
Edit: never mind, I just noticed the Shahrivar: nosites map on llamaserver. Will that work?

It will as long as all players have the Shahrivar_Som.tga

camobeercan August 31st, 2010 09:19 PM

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Hey, if the last spot is still open I'm in as Man. I'm playing Troubling Times right now and it's the first MP game I've been involved in.

Groundworm August 31st, 2010 11:44 PM

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The last spot is closed, I'm afraid. camobeercan took it! Welcome to the game! :)

I'll put up the game now, start uploading your pretenders!

Ragnars Wolves September 1st, 2010 08:03 PM

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I see a Nation called Chelms in the list of Nations with the pretenders sent in....What is Chelms? Are we playing modded nations that no one knows about?

Allium September 1st, 2010 08:53 PM

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Chelms = LA Man

Ragnars Wolves September 1st, 2010 10:17 PM

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Ohhhhhhhhhhhh:doh:

Ragnars Wolves September 2nd, 2010 03:06 PM

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Have we lost Mockingbird somewhere (Mictlan), or maybe he is out of town etc?

Groundworm September 3rd, 2010 06:04 AM

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I will check with mockingbird and see what's going on. Will post with more information.

Fantomen September 3rd, 2010 07:01 PM

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Holy cockslapping mother of disneyfied christ, this is taking forever!

let's just find another player instead if mockingbird doesn't answer.

Groundworm September 4th, 2010 09:55 AM

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The fault was mine, not mockingbird's. He responded promptly to my message, but I had to work last night and did not have time to post.

mockingbird is out of town for the weekend. He will upload his pretender and we can start the game when he returns.

I realize that we all want to get the game started (I am no exception!), but I don't think this is an unreasonable delay, given the holiday.

Ragnars Wolves September 5th, 2010 08:28 AM

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Would you please wait until Monday to start the game....After some lengthy playing as Pythium in LA,,,,I just don't see ANY way to get by Ermor with that nation (now I know why it is banned in LA sometimes).

I think I will chage to Abysia (another weak nation but it can hold its own agianst them I rhink. I just need to figure out the pretender.

Thanks....Ragnar

GrudgeBringer September 5th, 2010 02:18 PM

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sigh...nevermind, I will just take my whoopin. The Abysia I know is EA.

Allium September 5th, 2010 02:27 PM

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You might not even start out near Ermor, there are 6 other players after all.

Uh, why are you posting as Grudgebringer?

Ragnars Wolves September 5th, 2010 04:36 PM

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GrudgeBringer is my Stepdad, my wife and I live on his property in the guest house. We where over there and I was talking to him about changing my pick in my first MP game and he informed me that Abysia didn't have a LA nation.

Soooo, in case Morningstar got back in town and got his pretender in I just jumped on his computer and posted without thinking So I wouldn't hold up the game. And for the next question.....NO, he will not be helping me. In fact we have a $20dollar bet on how long I last in this game.

However, that does bring up a point and I guess I should have made it clear up front. The powers that be at Dom3 have approved it and if you ask anyone that knows GrudgeBringer, he is like a Palidin in a rpg game. NEVER breaks his word and plays the Lawful good to the max. ( I find it amusing, but he is well respected on here...check his friends list).

I have a different E-mail address but play off his computer by wireless. It is a strange situation, I can post on his comp but it comes up as GrudgeBringer. HOWEVER, because the turns are sent to MY comp on MY Gmail account, he can't see the turns and I can't do the turns from his comp. In other words we are seperate enities except for the fact that we are both logged in to Dom on the same account (so to speak) but have different E-mail address.

Hope that puts everyone at ease. It will be a Loooooog while before I try and take on the Old Man in the same game, I assure you.

If anyone has a problem or question you can PM me or for that matter PM him, like I said he ALWAYS takes the high road.:o

Fantomen September 5th, 2010 05:29 PM

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Nice try Grudge.

:lol

Ragnars Wolves September 5th, 2010 06:08 PM

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This is exactly why my stepdad didn't want me playing on his account by wireless.

First, I take offense that you don't believe me. Why would I lie? To play in a game with all new guys (except you who has 10 games by your own admission under your belt).

Second, I also take offense that you would think Grudgebringer would do that in the first place. You must not have played with him before to say that. And if you REALLY think this is some kind of evil plot so that he could play and win a game agianst new guys.....take it up with him (and then I'm SURE I will hear about it in no uncertain terms). Besides, if you know him you know he ALWAYS plays Arco.

If this brings a cloud over your game Groundworm, I apologize and will bow out. But your welcome to check with the people who run Dom as we had to clear it with them before we could do this (Annette I think was her name).

Let me know what you want me to do Groundworm.

Groundworm September 5th, 2010 06:25 PM

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Easy, Ragnar... sounds to me like Fantomen was just giving you some good-natured ribbing.

Abysia does have a late age nation, Blood of Humans. But my advice is to pick one nation, and try to develop a strategy for it. Since you've chosen Pythium and it sounds like you've got some field testing done with them in single player, work with it and see what you can do.

You probably won't win the game, but you'll almost definitely learn something.

Ragnars Wolves September 5th, 2010 07:02 PM

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Sorry, I may be a might touchy as I had a rather 'long' conversation about playing this game with my stepdad and the ramifacations it could have on him before I joined this. He mentioned he knew of 2 sets of brothers playing but not on the same type hook up.

Only because Dom gave thier permission did he allow it and my stupidity of using his computer to leave a message never occured to me that it would show his name. NOW, I have to hear it from him also.

Sorry Fantoman if you where just messin with me or my dad and you guys are friends.

All I want to do is play the game, take my lumps and come back for more (but better prepared)/ Pythium is a neat nation for SP as I have found out. But I am not skilled enough yet to counter the counters (if that makes sense).

When your ready...let er rip

Marmaduke September 6th, 2010 03:33 AM

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I don't know about the GrudgeBringer/Ragnar thing (on the Internet nobody knows I'm a dog), but why is Pythium especially bad vs Ermor? Out of the box, they have level 2 priests with nature (no need for supplies) and solid melee troops to shield the priests while mass banishments take place.
I have yet to play my first MP game on this forum, but I was under the impression that in Dom3 the metagame replaces gameplay balance, i.e. everybody knows Ermor cannot be allowed to grow and gangs on him asap with armies of priests.

Ragnars Wolves September 6th, 2010 07:53 AM

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Don't worry about it I was just whining as I have never played agianst Ermor as this is my first MP and not even in SP. I'll figure something out.

Fantomen September 6th, 2010 08:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragnars Wolves (Post 756843)
This is exactly why my stepdad didn't want me playing on his account by wireless.

First, I take offense that you don't believe me. Why would I lie? To play in a game with all new guys (except you who has 10 games by your own admission under your belt).

Second, I also take offense that you would think Grudgebringer would do that in the first place. You must not have played with him before to say that. And if you REALLY think this is some kind of evil plot so that he could play and win a game agianst new guys.....take it up with him (and then I'm SURE I will hear about it in no uncertain terms). Besides, if you know him you know he ALWAYS plays Arco.

If this brings a cloud over your game Groundworm, I apologize and will bow out. But your welcome to check with the people who run Dom as we had to clear it with them before we could do this (Annette I think was her name).

Let me know what you want me to do Groundworm.

Excuse me, I was in IRC thug mode ;)

I do believe you and I don't want to hurt anyones feelings or imply that Grudgebringer is anything but honest and ever so polite and humble.

It just looked soo damn funny, you have to admit that. :D

puntocom September 6th, 2010 11:09 AM

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Hey,

if there is a problem with Ermor, i will change it. I only want to play now xD.

Groundworm September 6th, 2010 11:40 AM

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mockingbird should have his pretender in tomorrow, at which point I'll start the game.

puntocom, no problem with Ermor. If there was, I would have disallowed them along with R'lyeh!

So, Ragnar, is that you who's in as Arcoscephale? Are you playing them instead of Pythium? (I ask out of curiosity, and so I know whether to remove the Pythium pretender submitted)

Ragnars Wolves September 6th, 2010 12:55 PM

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NO, I am going to stay Pythium (I stayed up toooooo late screwing around with it last night to change now), thanks for checking though.

And Fantoman, yes, you are right, it DID look and sound funny as I look back at it. I guess I was sensitive to the discussion I had with GB about this very thing and after screwing up and using his computer....

It was like this whole damn thing was scripted JUST the way he said he didn't want it to happen, and I was waiting for the other shoe to drop (or worse, he cut me off of his internet connection as I am in Grad school and money is REAL hard to come by right now). We discussed this last night and he said if you where serious you would have gone to him (as Sept somebody did on the Traitors game (which is the game he wanted me to start with) as this guy knew the IP address right off since GB has been on 2 winning teams in Noobs vs Vets).

He also said that from all he has heard, you were a good guy and told me to just be up front and things will work out and that I wouldn't be around long enough for them to even notice me (grrrrrrrrrrr).

Thanks for responding, we BOTH appreciate it.

Rags

Groundworm September 6th, 2010 05:54 PM

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So... if Ragnar didn't upload an Arcoscephale pretender, who did?

Ragnars Wolves September 6th, 2010 06:21 PM

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It wasn't me as I stayed with Pythium.

My folks are over for dinner and my dad is standing right over my shoulder. He said that in a game that he had played in a year or so ago, some new guy kept sending in a pretender (hijacking the game) thinking that all you had to do to play was send in the pretender without being accepted. He says that it happened 3 times before the right guy could get his in and the game started.

I don't have any idea if this is the case, but I have been on some gamesites where you just log into the game when they start one to play without saying anything, the first 5 or 8 (or whatever) that log in play. If it isn't Morningstar can you just kick it out and have him load?

mockingbird September 6th, 2010 07:26 PM

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I just tried to upload my pretender and the upload failed due to the game being full.

Did the moderator decide to boot me after all due to my late submission?

Fantomen September 6th, 2010 08:25 PM

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It happens sometimes that some clueless nutjob joins games without asking. The admin can just remove it.


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