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rabelais January 15th, 2011 02:35 AM

New MP game-Metal on Metal (discussion+recruiting)
 
None of my new games seem to be actually materializing, and my main game seems to be stuck in permaslow, so I thought I would float an idea for a new game.

Presumably it wont start until the new patch hits so we have time.

Everything except graphs off is subject to debate.

The idea: insanely huge armies of guys so well armored they can barely move.

Mods- SingleAgeMod (+some CBM/EDM at least for pretenders, 1.8 if it comes out in time?)

Magic Sites-LOW (whatever will give 5% for grassland so weenies can still search if they want?)

resources: 300 percent!

money/supplies probably higher than normal, but not by much, I dont want people buying extra mages without having a serious tradeoff. (Money 150%, Supplies 175-200%)

very difficult research.

The problem is I need a good map. I think 8-12 people max.

That way if someone finds an overwhelming strat for the extra production it wont drag on for years.

Any interest or map suggestions?

Suggested nation list for discussion:

EA:
Pangaea
Machaka
Arcoscephale
Abysia
Ermor
T'ien Ch'i
Vanheim
Yomi
Oceania

MA:
Pangaea
Arco
Pythium
Man
Ulm
Marignon
TC
Agartha
Abysia
Shinuyama
Oceana
Ctis?

LA:
Arco
Man
Ulm
Marignon
TC
Jomon
Abysia
Pangaea
Atlantis
Pythium
Bogarus

further suggestions or objections welcomed.

Anyone who wishes to play PM or post your top 3 nation choices. thanks.

Admiral_Aorta January 15th, 2011 06:07 AM

Re: New MP game-Metal on Metal (discussion+recruiting)
 
That sounds like a cool idea for a game. I assume it would be restricted to nations like Ulm, Abysia or Marignon, with lots of heavy troops. I'm not that sure what a good map would be though.

Hylobius January 15th, 2011 11:23 AM

Re: New MP game-Metal on Metal (discussion+recruiting)
 
I need another game and would be interested in this. This sounds like Scourge of Nations that I'm currently playing in, although you are taking the minimal magic/lots of troops even further. I would be in favor of the participants picking an allowed list of nations that fit the parameters and then having them randomly assigned.

Ossa January 15th, 2011 02:08 PM

Re: New MP game-Metal on Metal (discussion+recruiting)
 
I'm interested.

Admiral_Aorta January 15th, 2011 05:47 PM

Re: New MP game-Metal on Metal (discussion+recruiting)
 
I dunno about having nations randomly assigned. I'd prefer to pick from allowed nations.

Baalz January 15th, 2011 06:46 PM

Re: New MP game-Metal on Metal (discussion+recruiting)
 
I'll play.

Mauxe January 15th, 2011 10:04 PM

Re: New MP game-Metal on Metal (discussion+recruiting)
 
I'll play as well.
I like the idea of an agreed upon list of nations followed by random assignment.
The premise sounds interesting :)

Baalz January 16th, 2011 07:26 PM

Re: New MP game-Metal on Metal (discussion+recruiting)
 
Suggested nation list for discussion:

EA:
Arcoscephale
Abysia
Ermor
T'ien Ch'i
Vanheim
Yomi
Oceana

MA:
Arco
Pythium
Man
Ulm
Marignon
TC
Agartha
Abysia
Shinuyama
Oceana

LA:
Arco
Man
Ulm
Marignon
TC
Jomon
Abysia
Pangaea
Atlantis
Pythium
Bogarus

Baalz January 17th, 2011 10:07 AM

Re: New MP game-Metal on Metal (discussion+recruiting)
 
Sorry, I'm gonna have to bow out of this one. Have fun!

lwarmonger January 17th, 2011 03:25 PM

Re: New MP game-Metal on Metal (discussion+recruiting)
 
I would love to play, although I would prefer to also pick from allowed nations rather than just getting one randomly assigned.

lwarmonger January 17th, 2011 08:04 PM

Re: New MP game-Metal on Metal (discussion+recruiting)
 
Also, might I suggest adding Niefelheim to the list of nations Baalz was good enough to suggested above? They have a reasonable amount of armor on most of their troops.

CthulhuDreams January 17th, 2011 11:07 PM

Re: New MP game-Metal on Metal (discussion+recruiting)
 
Don't add all the power nations - I mean MA ermor benefits hugely from having cranked up resources, but it's still not a good idea to add them to the game.

Niefel are about blessed supermen, not heavy armor.

rabelais January 17th, 2011 11:53 PM

Re: New MP game-Metal on Metal (discussion+recruiting)
 
Shortly after I started the thread, I made a very long post about which nations probably should be disallowed, but it seems never to have made it in. Dammit!

Here's a short version:

I think giant nations should be allowed only if they would fit well with the human nations and their sacreds are not intended to be production limited. Ashdod is clearly out. Hinnom likewise. Formoria out. I think Jotunheim could be in. If people want them. Niefelheim I think is too much, but I suppose it is arguable. I don't know enough about Gath or Utgard to have an opinion.

Sauromatia I think should be out since armor doesnt help against the androphag archers. Which is a shame cause they have some lovely cav.

Baalz list looks good to me mostly. EA TC would get stomped imho, but if someone wishes to play them they may.

I think if we allow water nations we need to allow more than just Oceania. Doesn't atlantis have insanely heavy troops?

My list included MA and LA Pan, and Machaka, if anyone wants them. MA Ctis should nominally qualify, but the miasma makes it up for debate.

Bogarus makes me nervous, but if no one else objects, I have little experience with their cbm selves and will not disallow them. LA Ulm I though was just undead and blood, but I have no problem with them if no one else does.

EA abysia also makes me nervious, since their sacreds are clearly meant to be resource limited, but unless someone objects I guess they can be included.

Objections to any nation or nominations for ones left out may be made by PM to preserve privacy, if you wish.

While I personally think random assignment would be cool, I wanted a small enough game where it isnt feasible, given the number of nations we have.

Everyone send me your top 3 choices (by PM or post here) and I will work out the assignments. I really have no idea for a map but I guess we should wait and see how many people we have here. I think I would like to limit it to 10 or 12.

Thanks!

Admiral_Aorta January 18th, 2011 12:13 AM

Re: New MP game-Metal on Metal (discussion+recruiting)
 
My picks:
1. EA Abysia
2. MA Abysia
3. MA Marignon

I like burning things.:) Oh, and I think Niefleheim should be banned as it doesn't really match the spirit of the game, that is,lots and lots of heavily armoured soldiers.

rabelais January 18th, 2011 12:18 AM

Re: New MP game-Metal on Metal (discussion+recruiting)
 
Some crude testing suggests the economic settings should be something like 150% income 300% resources and 175% supplies. Any objections/ suggestions?

lwarmonger January 18th, 2011 03:36 AM

Re: New MP game-Metal on Metal (discussion+recruiting)
 
My picks:

1. MA Ulm
2. LA Ulm
3. LA Man

Personally, I think that MA C'tis should be allowed to play if someone wants them, simply because the Miasma is made up for them having, arguably, some of the worst troops of the nations listed.

And those settings sound good rabelais.

Numahr January 18th, 2011 05:53 AM

Re: New MP game-Metal on Metal (discussion+recruiting)
 
Very interesting setting, which could contribute to give this nice mid-game feeling a long time.

I would like to play, here are my picks:
1. MA Shinumaya
2. MA Agartha
3. LA Atlantis

Ossa January 18th, 2011 03:36 PM

Re: New MP game-Metal on Metal (discussion+recruiting)
 
1. LA TC
2. LA Jomon
3. LA Ulm

Admiral_Aorta January 21st, 2011 02:52 AM

Re: New MP game-Metal on Metal (discussion+recruiting)
 
Is this game still going to go ahead?

rabelais January 21st, 2011 04:39 AM

Re: New MP game-Metal on Metal (discussion+recruiting)
 
Sure. I was hoping for more people. So who has a map they like for 5?

Numahr January 21st, 2011 06:27 AM

Re: New MP game-Metal on Metal (discussion+recruiting)
 
It would be nide to have more participants... Seriously guys, no one else wants to join this innovative game?

Rabelais, have you advertized on the other forum?

Hylobius January 21st, 2011 10:02 PM

Re: New MP game-Metal on Metal (discussion+recruiting)
 
Picks:
1. LA Bogarus
2. LA Pan
3. MA Pan

Mauxe January 21st, 2011 10:39 PM

Re: New MP game-Metal on Metal (discussion+recruiting)
 
I'm still in.. just not sure what the best nation choices would be for this set-up. I'll do some research this evening and post my choices later tonight.


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