Shades_of_Green, ended, earcaraxe won
 

hi! im back to dominions after 3 month of absence, and looking for five nice players for this nice game. Players with any experience level are welcomed.

map: Six Lands
era: Middle
win condition: occupation of 4 capitals or consensus
mods: CBM 1.83
hosting: 24 hrs, quickhost, tolerance
special rule: the spell "burden of time" is forbidden

earcaraxe: Abysia
nrasch: Bandar Log
kianduatha: Machaka
Saeter: Pythium
Ossa: Ulm
Numahr: Shinuyama

to those who are thinking about joining this game but got uncertain because of calahan's malignant outrage:

i encourage you to check out the links he provided and two things will be obvious:

-in none of those games did I and calahan play together (and in any other game too btw)
-none of those games were "ruined" by my leaving.

From the reflexions of other players here i consider myself a cooperative, friendly person. If you prefer your own eyes instead of some strangers statements (including mine), come join (there is no risk).

Re: Shades_of_Green, recruiting
 

I'd love to play Machaka.

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welcome!

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I'd like to join as Pythium. Thanks.

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Just so you all know, I highly recommend NEVER playing in a game with earcaraxe. He is one of the least reliable players, and one of the biggest bailers that I know to have ever (unfortunately) been part of the Dominions community.

So a warning to everyone who thinks about playing in this game. earcaraxe is a known bailer, and the examples I will give below are just those I know about. As I will be amazed if there are not other examples as well. Something I can tell you all for certain is that earcaraxe will either win this game or abandon it at some stage once he realises he can't win. And he won't care in the slightest about the rest of you at that time, as he doesn't care about any other player or person he plays games with other than himself. As all he wants to do is have "his fun", which meanings "winning" in his books. You can also get some clues to this by his choice of nation and banned spells (yes, why don't we all create games where you have banned the best and most powerful spell to stop your nation. As that will greatly increase your chance to win, and minimise the chances of having your "fun" spoilt. Why not try this for an easier game... "New game. I'm playing LA Ermor, and I'm banning the recruitment of priests").

During his brief time here last year earcaraxe.....

- Tried joining a newbie game after having won 2-3 MP games already.
http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/...post&p=1087291

- Dropped out of Pyrite as a leading mid-nation for no apparent reason (truth being he had no chance to catch the leader, therefore no interest in playing anymore)
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showp...&postcount=123

- Dropped out of Gluttony for no reason. (check the OP for nation-player info)
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showp...&postcount=167

- Simply dropped out of the team game Preponderance 2 leaving his nation to stale, revealing his identity (which was against the rules as it was anonymous game), abandoning his team-mate, and going directly against the wishes of the admin. (I was in the game, and he dropped out as he had no chance to win, and had just lost a huge army for nothing against a vet. So instead of staying to learn from good players, he simply bailed, as all he wants is to win, and fight newb players he knows he can beat).
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=46526

- Simply walked out of Crucible
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showp...2&postcount=85

- Simply walked out of "Great Forum" (he was admin and organiser at the time)
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showp...&postcount=383


You are all of course still free to play in this game if you wish, but do not think lightening won't strike twice (or the umpteenth time in earcaraxe's case). But ask yourself if it's worth the hassle of having your game potentially ruined at a later stage.

But if any of you who have signed up here want to play in a new MP game (or anyone who signs up afterwards) then please PM me or find me on IRC. As I will happily organise a new game for anyone who wants one, with whatever settings they want. And I do this here because I certainly do not want to see any more good members of the Dominions community have their game negatively affected by known bailers like earcaraxe "the douche bag king". As he highly disrupted several games in the past I have been part of in some way, and done likewise to others as well. Remember, a leopard never changes it's spots, and once a bailer douche-bag, always a bailer douche-bag.

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wow, something really got u moving calahan. I'm not totally surprised of this act of yours nor the style of it, since u acted very arrogantly and hostile from the first time we had some contact, and as i see it on these forums u have a tendency to act this hostile and rude with others too. U no doubt have a gift of finding enemies and "douche bag kings" u can fight against.

I would like to articulate my opinion in a nutshell:
-"having fun in a game" for me doesnt equal winning. I have never quit a dominions MP game because i thought i had no chance of winning.
-i believe the games i subbed out didnt got „ruined” (mostly because of finding replacements quickly).
-i didnt try to„sneak into” a noob game as i consider myself a newbie at the time.

As i am sure if i tried to disproof your examples here point by point, u sure would be compelled to continue ur mysteriously motivated fighting here, so i wont do that, and i wont answer any more of your posts here. If anyone interested in my point of view in the particular cases, i gladly tell him in PM, then it will up to him to decide to take the „risk” of joining a game where some players (possibly me) might sub out for unforeseeable reasons.

Re: Shades_of_Green, recruiting (6/4)
 

Well he does have a point that banning BoT as you yourself are planning to play Abysia is just the kind of a move a player, who could be compared to a feminine hygiene product, would do.

It is also a move a Scrub would do.
http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playi...in-part-1.html

Re: Shades_of_Green, recruiting (6/4)
 

the 5 most common banned spells - as in the banned spells mod - are BoT, utterdark, astral corruption, arcane nexus and forge of the ancients.

I was thinking about adding the whole mod, then i gave a thought to it:

-FotA is like ulm's national afaik, so i dont want to ban it.

-arcane nexus is - from what i read - is not too strong in small games like this. i find this plausible, but i would like to have firsthand experience of it to see it for myself, so i didnt want that banned.

-astral corruption - from what i read - is not primarily banned for overpoweredness, but because of the huge micro it requires to avoid its effect. in a small game like this, this shouldn be a problem. im not sure of it, it might be true, might be false, but i would like a firsthand experience of it too to judge it for myself, just like arcane nexus.

-that leaves utterdark and BoT. i have experience with BoT, and i believe it would improve game experience banning it. I havent seen utterdark in MP yet, but the great difference between them, that it can be dispelled next turn and pretend it never happened, and that cant be said about BoT: it cannot be dispelled quickly enough to not kill the old mages.

banning BoT helps a lot a nations (although i think only marginaly). I wasnt doing this with the aim of improvign my chances of winning.

If you would like to join the game (which i would be glad to hear), im open to discussing it, and I very much welcome constructive arguments. But i would like to point out that so far only outsiders had problem with the banning of BoT, the players who will actually play this game are seemingly fine with it.

Re: Shades_of_Green, recruiting (4/6)
 

This thread is quite rapidly going into territory that sees it locked away to oblivion. We don't do "List of bad players" threads because of the acrimony they cause and this is starting to go very much in that direction. If you want to argue about each other, take it to PMs.

Re: Shades_of_Green, recruiting (4/6)
 

guys, what would u say about a game in silent seas instead? we could start right away. just an idea.

Re: Shades_of_Green, recruiting (4/6)
 

Sure, I'll join a 4 player silent seas game also.

Re: Shades_of_Green, recruiting (4/6)
 

kianduatha? nrasch?

Re: Shades_of_Green, recruiting (4/6)
 

I'm fine w/ Silent Seas, and I'd like to change my nation to R'lyeh. :)

Nathan

Re: Shades_of_Green, recruiting (4/6)
 

I'd like to join with MA Ulm

Re: Shades_of_Green, recruiting (5/6)
 

I'd like to join as Shinumaya

Re: Shades_of_Green, recruiting (5/6)
 

Welcome Ossa, im glad tohear from u!

And welcome Numahr!

We are six now, so let the fun begin, i have set the game up.

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About the map:
- is it the wrap around version? More fun in my opinion.
- does it have starting locations pre-defined? May be important for balance.

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do u mean the six lands map? yes, it is wraparound, and has predefined starting locations. it is the most balanced (homogenous) map i know.

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Following thread discussion, I thought we were playing Silent Seas...

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I had the idea of SS, but in the meantime we become six people, so six lands seems the more popular choice for me, it would be very crowded in silent seas i think.

Is it ok for u?

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6 Lands is perfectly OK for me :)
Re. mods, I think we will use CBM 1.83, not 1.82, right?

Re: Shades_of_Green, running
 

glad to hear that.

thanks for the suggestion! i have changed the game to CBM 1.83

Re: Shades_of_Green, running
 

I've sent my pretender file for Pythium 2 times but get no responce from Llamaserver. Anyone else having problems?

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Saeter,
I just uploaded my pretender through the usual procedure and it went OK.

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i dont see ur pretender there. are u sure u sent it to "pretenders@llamaserver.net" with "Shades_of_Green" as subject?

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Yes, tried a third time and still no luck. And I actually have recently joined 2 other games at llamaserver that worked well. Is there a limit on number of games that can be played at once? Or could it be that the map is for some reason not accepting Pythium?

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Now I tried sending from my webmail and it worked. Sorry to have kept you waiting. Might have been something strange with the format of emails from my email client. But it usually works with Llamaserver and the problem has not occurred before.

Looking forward to the game.

Re: Shades_of_Green, running
 

i saw nathan (nrasch) nearly staled, so i postponed the hosting by 12 hrs. what happened?

Re: Shades_of_Green, running
 

Doh! I have no clue; I thought I was current on my turns. :(

I just saw a hosting warning message in my email, but I don't see where Llama server sent me the new turn. I've requested a resend, and as soon as I get it I'll get my turn in.

Sorry about the hold up everyone.

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VICTORY BULLETIN AND CALL FOR ACTION

The brave Bakemonos, violently rushed by blood-thirsty Spiders, after two months of forced strategic withdrawal, have fought and won their first important battle: 10 Blessed Black Hunters (worth 1,000 gold) were annihilated, 3 more survived but had to flee.

Machaka has decided to impose its dominion on this plane. But Machaka can be resisted. Don't be afraid of his Stinking Spiders, they will die to steel and arrows just like any goblin. With his spiders committed to our front, and succesfully resisted by courageous Bakemonos, we suggest all wise nations to contribute to putting an end to N'goo's foolish ambitions.

Iwarebiko, the First and the Last Emperor

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@Numahr: We too have felt the spider's kiss in our lands, and our people cheer at your victory. Count on the Bandar as friends in your struggle.

Re: Shades_of_Green, running
 

Sweetie, you need to do your research better. Black Hunters are only 80 gold, and most of the ones you killed were riderless summons. I'm quite embarrassed though, Dai Bakemono are quite effective against the riderless ones.

Nrasch, I feel no need to conduct hostilities against you--I was merely expanding where you had not, when you had not made any diplomatic overtures otherwise. If you want to send along some elephant snacks though, feel free.

Re: Shades_of_Green, running
 

Checking in to see how this game is going.... Anyone in the lead yet? :)

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I will be on vacation until sunday, so postponed the hosting by 60 hrs.

Re: Shades_of_Green, running
 

In these political circumstances the NAPs Abysia had signed are too constraining on my strategic options and severely hinder my reaction-time to significant events, so I hereby cancel all of them. Buffer times will be honored as no hostilities are planned.

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RUH ROH!!! ;)

Re: Shades_of_Green, running
 

have all of u received the message from the host about pythiums wealth increase? what could have caused it?

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I think it was due to a bugged summoning spell. The summoned creature did not appear (and no spell message either). Just a few hundred extra gold, in exchange for the lost gems I suppose.

Heard of the same problem in another game.

Re: Shades_of_Green, running
 

do u know if it was an earth of fire spell and the gems got converted with the alchemy ratio?

Re: Shades_of_Green, running
 

Hui - this game has actually just kinda ended. Congrats Earcaraxe - your turteling proved successful ;)

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You may be right Ossa, I am prepared to play a little longer though.

Sorry all for not preparing better against Abysia. I have only myself to blame, did not see his cancellation of NAPs until yesterday, and then had already sent my turn with no time to change it.

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I think it was an air summoning spell.

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the cowardly leader of ulm has broken his given word, breaking the NAP.

thanks for the nice gifts tho, maybe ur soldiers conscience was louder then urs.

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That's all for me. Congratulations Earcaraxe to a nice buildup that proved very powerful at the end.

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Thanks Saeter for joining us!

Btw, im planning to launch a new game, for 6-8 players, no diplomacy, EA, and i would like to have u all there. are u interested?

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And thanks to kianduatha too, u were dogpiled and still held out for marvelously long, and congrats to numahr for being alive despite losing the war so early. And thanks to Numahr, Nrasch and Ossa too!

Numahr, as the last remaing player besides me, do u agree that i have won it?

To any of u who is interested in my aspect of the game:

My strategy was this: using a dormant vampire queen for forging soul contracts as soon as she awakens, then using her as an phoenix pyring, soul vortexing immortal SC if need arises. In the beginning i was aiming at an average expansion, using only my army and not taking any sloth scales (i do take sloth quite frequently with abysia). with successful diplomacy i think i even orevachieved that a bit. And i just turtled from that point, waiting for my 15 contracts to build up a nice devil force. With me being the only nation in peace, i ran away with research, grabbed most of the artifacts.

I planned the assault on pythium for more than 12 hours, keeping notes on most goals and army movements, hiding the vampires, it was much fun, now i have an image how it feels to be a general in a war.

I thought it'd be better to attack soon, before Ulm finshes off machaka, and it becomes a 2 vs 1 (the one probably being me), and Pythium seemed the most fitting target for me (after deep consideration): lots of common border, having two capitals, and the political factors: not much into the war with machaka, etc.

With the help of luck (and lying to pythium a lot) the blitzkrieg proved very successful, in two month Pythium was no more, its southern big army slaughtered to the last man, just 5 forts held against the infernal forces and the hordes of vamires and a half-dozen Zmeys. Then Ulm went offensive - seeing correctly the "now or never" chance to stop me - but his main army ran into one of mine most anti-SC battlegroup on the first day of the invasion, and suffered an immedite defeat at the still pythian fortress of Minz. Three month later the zmeys grabbed quite a few ulmian lands, so I actually managed to gain provinces from ulm and still defend mine, so seeing the futility of our war Ulm went AI. At that point i was fairly sure i had won already, and it was easy to domkill off pythium and machaka.

I could have stormed those pythian forts instead of waiting for the domkill, but i was sure pythium had a lot of storm staffs waiting there for the occasion, since ulm had one, and i was sure ulm couldnt have made it since neither its mages nor its pretender had high enough air, so i guessed ulm's staff came from pythium. but i havent encountered any, even in pythium's grand attempt of a counterattack to break the siege of his capitol and give some hope of its oppressed people. It was in ill fated, yet heroic battle, where even the last members of the capitols garrison sacrificed their lifes in an attempt to die in honor and glory. It proved to be mostly only honor :)



if any of u wants to write his aspect of the game, im very curious of it.

So guys, thanks all for the great game, i hope we meet soon again.

Re: Shades_of_Green, running
 

Hum... will Abysia be able to defeat the might of Shinumaya, where Machaka failed?

:D

OK I think I will rather concede than be burnt to cinders. But at least let me try to negociate something. Maybe, as the new Pantakrator, you can designate my Pretender as the semi-deity of a small bakemono tribe lost in the mountains?

My perspective on the game was rather, hum, limited. My very early war against Machaka went wrong for me because of distant spells on my capital. Dai Bakemonos were doing an OK job against the spiders, but a blight spam stopped me from recruiting anything and basically I lost the economic war. Very efficient rushing strategy. After that I just played basically a castle defense game. A bit of luck helped me to win two storm attempts by Machaka, and then I think every one kind of forgot/ignored me...

For a new game, I'll maybe have to stay reasonable and refuse, as I am about to start an exciting new job and I don't know how requiring it will be...

Re: Shades_of_Green, running
 

Thanks for taking care of the bakemonos, its a deal!:shake: