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As some of you might know I have gained a new system at home.

intel 2 gig with an asus v8200 64meg delux.

All the bells and wistles etc.../

Only problem is that I have nothing really to test it out with.

Last games I purchased was SEIV , homeworld and BG2.

So I was looking for some ideas on some games to purchase to test this system.

So far I have come up with Shogun Total war. Any other suggestions? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

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Myth I, Myth II are really good games. I have not played myth III yet.

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shogun is fun, but a bit out of date technology wise. if you are interested in good games instead of zippy 3d graphics, Trade Empires is one of the best. also, i hear good things about europa universalis. Project Eden looks sweet, and with sharp graphics as well. There is a new crop of tactical shooters out if thats your bag, basically you can take your pick from the latest in the rainbow-six / IGI / etc breed of things. i know that those are not all true 'tactical games' but most of them try pretty hard.

black and white is fun for about a month if you have not played it.. graphics are still competative with the new stuff thats rolling out. there is a new starwars game, which is a Age of Empires clone, which is a command and conquer clone, which is a warcraft clone, which is a Dune2 clone, so i dont really give a **** about that, but some people like those things. I think there is some new 3D space RTS game that came out after homeworld 2, but i forget what its called. I also think there is some sweet 3d Space based capital ship combat sim, but i forget what that one is called too.

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Puke could the battleship game you are thinking of be battlecruiser: Millenium. If so I would suggest not buying it. While the game looks good the company that makes it has a history of faulty software. I bought Battlecruiser 3000AD and it was so faulty it crashed while trying to run the intro movie. The company finally released a patch, I downloaded it and found the game then crashed when I attempted to start a new game. Many people have complained about the game series.

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Puke probably is refering to Independance War 2. Which is supposed to be a KICK ___ game. However, it is also supposed to have a rather steep learning curve. Oh well. I wish I had a system that would play it.....

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If you really want to test out your machine, I hear Max Payne is the way to go. Sure, it is a first person shooter, but you don't buy a machine like you have to play strategy games.

If you are getting Shogun Total War (good game, but crashed on my machine unless I did the full instilation) you should get the Mongal Horde add on. I think they lifted the graphics up a step or two, as well as adding lots of units. However, it isn't going to push your machine, my old 450 handled it with ease.

I am jealous of your machine, but I made my choice. Instead of getting one great new machine, I bought two older ones for about the same price and now have a three machine network in the house. Living in Kenya places any form of network play besides LAN out of reach, so I chose to do it at home.

Have fun!

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"return to castle woflenstein" is one of the newest 3d shooter, that's probably a good game to test your computer with.
or starfleet command 2, wasn't that 3d also?

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Shogun Warlord Eddition, this is the upgraded Version, excellent game system, tactical is fun and it can be played on line, also Universalis I & II, also excellent. I have both, but II is my xmas present and wife won't let me touch it. If you get them be sure to download patches (as with all games out there) Civ III is supposed to be good to, don't have it yet but some on the forums stated Universalis is better, but that's up to each indiviual's tastes. I plan on getting it,

just some ideas mac

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>If you really want to test out your machine, I hear Max Payne is the way to go. Sure, it is a first person shooter, but you don't buy a machine like you have to play strategy games.<hr></blockquote>Nitpick: Max Payne is third person, not first person. There was an opinion column about it in the December 2001 issue of PC Gamer.

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thanks dumbluck, independance war 2 is what i was thinking of. my that game looks nice.

guess i should go get it..

while battlecruiser milenium sounds good in principal, i too had the misfortune of playing Derek Smart's first game, and was somewhat underwhelmed. it does not look like he has learned any lessons for the second one, so i will stay clear of it. besides, Interplay's Anestus Rising looks to be the better carrier-command remake.

(anybody remember carrier command?)

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A 5000-point assault in _Combat Mission_, with hi-res mods and all graphical features maxxed (resolution, smoke, weather, et al) might be visually impressive. At least if you forget that the beautifully camoed Panthers (I use a lot of Fernando's and GEM mods, for instance) and so forth are killing machines... Good gameplay, too.

EU I was decent, but a) it's not for nothing that people joke that it's *real-time* strategy gaming over 300 years, and b) it has a variety of AI cheats (most notably, AI fleets suffer zero attrition -- a huge advantage for AI colonial powers, which can explore the world much faster that way; especially Portugal, as all their ships can explore) and AI weirdness (highly asymmetrical diplomacy in which bribes are expected to be a one-way street, for instance). The manual is also more of a short history book than, say, a game manual (e.g. there are screenshots, sure... but not a single one is actually labelled with respect to parts of the game interface.) There are other quirks as well, such as outrageously unrealistic missions (for instance, getting something like "Make sure there is no Spanish presence in the Caribbean"... as Russia... in 1500...) EU II may or may not have resolved these; I wouldn't know, since I don't own it.

My main beef w/ Shogun:TW is that the old publisher basically broke repeated promises and bailed on supporting it, leaving behind a number of known issues such as units routing far more easily than they should; a complete lack of configurability (no way to disable the wildly ahistorical T-1000 Geisha/Terminators); and a rather blatant AI cheat (it's a "simultaneous" move game, but the AI tends to take into account your moves when choosing its). Activision may be better than EA when it comes to support, but that remains to be seen.

Do not underestimate the processing power required by Shogun:TW when doing Civil War battles (8 sides, 16 squads ea., 120 musketeers per =&gt; 15,360 musketeeres =&gt; LOTS of smoke and hideous frame rate on many systems). Of course, that's not exactly a normal battle...

Illwinter's _Dominions_ is good, but it won't come even close to stressing your system. Priorities are similar to SE:IV (scope, depth, micromanagement, and most of all, gameplay).

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Well, mind you this isn't war, but I'd be curious to see how a game like SimLife would play on a really crankin' machine. I could never get a stable 3-level ecosystem going because my machine at the time couldn't handle huge worlds with enormous pops, which of course you need if you are going to have predators eating herbivores eating plants. But probably too much like school for most people. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>EU I['s] manual is also more of a short history book than, say, a game manual (e.g. there are screenshots, sure... but not a single one is actually labelled with respect to parts of the game interface.) There are other quirks as well, such as outrageously unrealistic missions (for instance, getting something like "Make sure there is no Spanish presence in the Caribbean"... as Russia... in 1500...) EU II may or may not have resolved these; I wouldn't know, since I don't own it.<hr></blockquote>I bought Europa Universalis II as a Christmas gift to myself, based on friends' recommendations of EU I. The manual is pretty much the same as you've described it, but there is a very good string of tutorials that walk you through the entire interface. Weird missions are still somewhat of a problem; I'm playing Ukraine and as of 1529 have seen three easy ones (hold Jedisan and Crimea, both north of the Black Sea; discover Smyrna in Asia Minor), one medium one (keep the the Marmelukes [IIRC] out of someplace I think was also near or in Asia Minor), and one absurd one (discover someplace in South America).

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Some of the MMPORGs are pretty impressive. They've just released a new Everqust patch which apparently is quite impressive, graphically.

There's new one out, called Camelot, which is proving very popular apparently, and is taking a lot of players away from EQ.

Anyone got any news on that Star Wars MMPORG?

Not that I play these myself, but the guy who sits next to me at work talks about them all the time=-)

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Wizardry 8?

Everyone says it's what other traditional CRPG, starting with Daggerfall, Might and Magic, etc. etc. should have been. Very non-linear, and almost bug-free.

I myself am three hours into the game so I cannot say much (like it so far tho). But it is all 3-D and sure can test your hardware if you turn all graphics options on and go for a high res http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Dark Age of Camelot will tax your system, but it's not worth much else. The graphics aren't even that good for how much CPU power it takes..and the graphics/server lag makes the main point of the game (capturing forts/relics) impossible http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Of course, the main point of the game is still only half finished, too; there was an overwhelming attack on a relic a few days ago. They would have captured it, but a bug prevented them from picking it up. This after the company actually encouraged people to go take relics.

Not a game I would recommend.

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by dumbluck:
Puke probably is refering to Independance War 2. Which is supposed to be a KICK ___ game. However, it is also supposed to have a rather steep learning curve. Oh well. I wish I had a system that would play it.....<hr></blockquote>

A-hem. You rang? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Yes, I-War 2 is a very, very sweet game (as was the original Independence War, which sadly is hard to find these days). As for the learning curve, it is rather steep, but it's more getting used to the Newtonian Flight model than anything else, in my opinion. Once you're there, it's a wonderful thing. It's like playing a game of SEIV without ministers for the first time. Well, sort of. Hard to compare actually, shouldn't have bothered.

The I-War community is also quite excellent, and the modding community is rapidly growing since the game is extremely easy to mod (well, in some aspects). Also, the game developers take special interest in their product. Already one of the fellows on the dev team has churned out several player-requested unofficial mods (unofficial merely in that they are not supported by Particle Systems, not that it really matters much, since they work).

Anyway, I highly recommend I-War 2: EoC. And if you get the chance, stop by the Infogrames North America Independence War Boards.

A few helpful websites:
www.i-war2.com Fansite: lots of links and mods
www.independencewar.com Official site, official stuff
INA Forums

Hope to see those who are interested! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

-Hotfoot
"Almost, but not yet."

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Picked up return to castle woflenstein.

It took two days for the pain in my left hand to go away. Not use to the shoot them up games.

But I think I have the hang of it now. The AI is really good in it. I think I will finish the game and give it to my 8 year old nephew as a gift.

I have completed 10 missions now. Sounds are good and the picture is quite nice. But it is a game I could not play all the time. I think it would get boring.

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Matrix games has several new games coming out, one Napoleon at Australitz looks similiar to Shogun looks like it might be good, game comes out supposedly Dec 19th. They also have space game coming out, again don't know how good, you might want to look at their site www.matrixgames.com

just some ideas mac

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Mac I go there all the time. Steel Panthers is a fantastic game.

You should check out

http://www.navalwarfare.net/

FSP is free for download.

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Just finished Wolf.

Over all the game was ok.

Good AI

Sounds fantastic.

I am now packing it up and adding it to the christmas presents I am giving to my nephew. (I already told him that I would give it to him when I was finished.)

Good game for an eight year old.

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Tesco, I'll ck out that site, I have read a number of reviews on Steel Panters and they all recomend the game, I'll be on vacation over holidays so mabye I'll get a chance to look it over, been playing mostly SE4 and Shogun WE and waiting for SE4-Gold to come out. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif tks

just some ideas mac

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Mac I have all 4 Steel Panther games. I purchase the first 3 over the years. ( I think I have 2 copies of the first two games ) and the 4th game is free from Matrix. I am a collector of computer war games. I like the manuals and maps.

You should check it out. I highly recommend reading the manual. The game can be quite difficult. If you ever start playing it and enjoy it. Perhaps we can play a game or two.

I just downloaded Pacific war.

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/me wants more money to buy games!

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Tesco, Great, I always enjoy a good game, also I have the original PacWar by Grigsby with the old patch, haven't downloaded the newer Version from the site yet, I did enjoy it even tho the campaing could be long, one of the only complaints I had was the surface combat between warships, it didn't happen very often, I did have one where the battle Lasted over 15min of real time tho, what a battle. That and lack of combat in the China Theater, you could only go so far and then no farther. excellent game tho, one of the few out there on the Pacific Theater. Looking foreward to his new one coming out. The newer Version of PacWar is supposedly better then the old one,I always enjoyed PacWar, Have you played it before? good game, can be quite involved until you learn the ins and outs... good luck
I have been Wargame collector since 8th grade both board and computer, have quite a collection.

just some ideas mac http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

ps, I agree Vegard, never enough money or time for all the games...need to win a lottery http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by dmm:
Well, mind you this isn't war, but I'd be curious to see how a game like SimLife would play on a really crankin' machine. I could never get a stable 3-level ecosystem going because my machine at the time couldn't handle huge worlds with enormous pops, which of course you need if you are going to have predators eating herbivores eating plants. But probably too much like school for most people. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif <hr></blockquote>

I loved SimLIfe. I think we were the only two people in the world who did.

I couldn't wait to load it up on my new machine when I upgraded about a year ago. Unfortunately one of the floppies (yes, it's that old) had gotten corrupted and it wouldn't load. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

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Just received my first present for christmas. Shogun Total War Warlord edition. 20 dollars from EB. From 'Santa' to me.

Cannot wait to open it up and play it on Dec 25th.

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Tesco, great game, watch out for the "Geishas",
make plenty of alliances, tacitcal combat is fun,
enjoy the game. Do the full install not the custom otherwise you won't get the full imput of the Throne Room.

just some ideas mac

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Tesco, Shogun is a fantastic game - I won't ruin it for you by giving you loads of gameplay tips but on the options screen, for your first couple of games, I would disable the army fatigue and the limited ammo options - you will have enough problems with coordinating and controlling your first battles without worrying about your troops getting knackered or running out of arrows

the only thing I will say is WATCH OUT FOR THE WARRIOR MONKS!!

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A friend of mine lent me Alien vs Predator 2.
with the request that I play it in the dark with headphones on and as a marine.

25 minutes later I almost crapped my pants. I think I jumped about 10 feet in the air.

That game has ambience. I recommend it just for the scare factor. It really sets the mood early.

P.S. Do not worry. First person shooter games will never replace grand epic 8 years to master/finish stag. games.