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Atrocities December 7th, 2001 12:01 PM

Opinions Sought and Needed (New Ship Set)
 
I wanted to make my own unique ship set basically from scratch. It is difficult, but fun. Here are some of the ships I am nearing completion on.

They still need some work, so your opinions do matter. Tell me which style you would prefer? The open wing or the battleship.

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Shyrka December 7th, 2001 12:39 PM

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Hello Atrocities :-) Here are my comments (Starting with the first ship)[list][*]Very good for a medium craft. But i thik the wings seem too fragile to support these big cannons.[*]The best ship. Really good. Seems though and technologist. I like it vey much.[*]Very original, but i think that the hexagonal shape makes the ship vulnerable to side attacks. Better design for transports IMO[*]Same as above[*]I don't like this design. Rare proportion size/cannons. The shape of the ship seems appropiate for a huge one, with much smaller weapons.

In general, i think it some kind of symbol painted in the ships will make them seem better. But i like this first ships. I think you can do an excellent new shipset. What about the race?

Shyrka December 7th, 2001 12:40 PM

Re: Opinions Sought and Needed (New Ship Set)
 
Hello Atrocities :-) Here are my comments (Starting with the first ship)
  • Very good for a medium craft. But i thik the wings seem too fragile to support these big cannons.
  • The best ship. Really good. Seems though and technologist. I like it vey much.
  • Very original, but i think that the hexagonal shape makes the ship vulnerable to side attacks. Better design for transports IMO
  • Same as above
  • I don't like this design. Rare proportion size/cannons. The shape of the ship seems appropiate for a huge one, with much smaller weapons.

In general, i think it some kind of symbol painted in the ships will make them seem better. But i like this first ships. I think you can do an excellent new shipset. What about the race?

Torkle December 7th, 2001 03:30 PM

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Very nice work! I like all of them except the Last (which looks too much like a sea-going battleship instead of a space vehicle). The 1st, 3rd, and 4th are especially nice and are very distinct in the smaller, overhead view.

ZeroAdunn December 7th, 2001 04:07 PM

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I really like them. Doga right? They all look nice, especially the Last one. I kinda like the fell of boats in space.

chewy027 December 7th, 2001 04:52 PM

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uh oh looks like we got another doga user http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ships look great. Only thing I would say is that if they are all part of one fleet then make the transition between ships look better. I realize this isn't all the ships and there probably not in any order, but jusy keep that in mind when you render up the next batch http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Val December 7th, 2001 06:18 PM

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The set looks really good. I particularly liked ship #2.

It looks like the images of 4 & 5 should be swapped to better match the overhead views though.

6 Looks like a carrier of some sort and kind of reminds me of the old 'Starblazers' cartoon.

Puke December 7th, 2001 06:57 PM

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very good. since 4 is a larger 3, it should probably fill up more of the window. i like them all though, the red stripe at the base of 5 is what contributes most to that 'naval boat' sort of look.

Tampa_Gamer December 7th, 2001 08:04 PM

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Nice Atrocities, very nice. Try and get them done by December 15th so that we can include them on the Gold CD. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ 07 December 2001: Message edited by: Tampa_Gamer ]</p>

Atrocities December 8th, 2001 02:25 AM

Re: Opinions Sought and Needed (New Ship Set)
 
Thank you all very much for your insights.

I must say that the DOGA program is very helpful, and I enjoy using it very much.

I will try to have the set done by Dec 15th so it too, if possible, can be included in the new burn.

Thank you all very much.

Val & Puke, thanks for the tip on size placement. Shyrka thank you for the indepth feed back. This helps me focus my attention on a more direct design type.

More to come soon.

[ 08 December 2001: Message edited by: Atrocities ]</p>

Atrocities December 8th, 2001 11:38 AM

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I have named this set, a non trek set, The United Freespace Alliance. It will either be a Human or Human based alien Race. I have not decided yet.

(New Images) Click HERE

Well, the ships are done. I finished up all the re-masking tonight. I am very pleased with how the fighters turned out. They look mean as hell. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

The ships are sized, and classed according to design. I have a nice diversity of ships, but they all resememble one in another in basic look.

The satellite and mine images are also completed. I am really pleased with how the Satellite image came out.

I have also created the Race Embelm. I like it a lot as well. I am uploading the fighters, satellite, and race embelm images to my site now.

I am still working on finding a Race Portrait.

[ 08 December 2001: Message edited by: Atrocities ]</p>

Atrocities December 8th, 2001 01:48 PM

Re: Opinions Sought and Needed (New Ship Set)
 
Well, what can I say, I got board. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif I made this set from start to finish in a little over 12 hours. That included the learning curve for DoGa, and the time to convert to BMP.

The DoGa L2 program is a lot of fun to use. I gave the Developers of DoGa credit in my read-me file with hope that people will buy their product.

If your interested in seeing what I have done you can view the entire race by clicking HERE

For a close up of the fighters and Race emblem, just click the link in my Last post.

All that remains is to generate the AI for the Race. I have the history files done, so the hard part is over. All I have to do now is set up the AI, and zip it all together.

God I love building ship sets. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif (J/K kinda http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )

Your opinions are always welcome. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

ZeroAdunn December 8th, 2001 03:30 PM

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I really like the shipset. If I could make one suggestion it would be this: The satelite looks as though it needs a change of direction. As it stands it looks to much like a ship. It is still a really nice design though.

chewy027 December 8th, 2001 06:25 PM

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i would say if your gonna keep that race portrait then change the color so it matches with the rest of the ships. Not necessarily the same color but something closer to blue.Also if you get doga3 you won't have tp worry about masking because you can render to a black background or if you want you can make the image and then open the motion desgner and put it in there. Just position the camera accordingly and you can set a black background. Thats what i did till i got D3. Should save you a lot of time. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Atrocities December 9th, 2001 01:59 AM

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Thanks Chewy. That is how I currently do it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I found that using the Motion feature makes it a lot easier than trying to filter out the blue background. Also, once you learn the camera, positioning is easy. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

As for the color, it matches the emblem, and the emblem is also the color of the ships. I thought about changing the ships to that color, but opted for the bluegray look instead. If the Race Portrait is that color, it looks a bland. This way, it looks more unique. I will include differant color Race Portraits with the set though. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Thanks guys. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

chewy027 December 9th, 2001 02:06 AM

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well if you want to take the time you can add some small parts that are the color of the race portrait to spice up the pics a little and bring more continuity. I've found that some small parts can add cool detail to ships that are pretty much all one color.

Atrocities December 9th, 2001 02:19 AM

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I thought about it, and your right, the race portrait should be the same color. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Take a look now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

chewy027 December 9th, 2001 03:36 AM

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very nice. I'm glad my input could help. Makes everything flow very well IMHO. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Atrocities December 9th, 2001 04:11 AM

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I just changed the orintation of the satellite image. Thanks for that tip Zero. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif


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