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-Luc- June 21st, 2011 03:13 PM

CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Hi,

I started a long campaign (1948-1991/200 battles) as commander of Soviet forces against NATO (USA/UK/France).

Here is my TO&E (1948/06):

HQ :
HQ,
1X GAZ-66;

RECCE platoon :
5X scout team,
5X White scout car;

Tank platoon:
4X T-34/85;

Motorized infantry compagy:
10X riffle section,
3X RPG-6 team,
3X 7.62 SMG MMG,
11X GAZ-66;

Support platoon:
3X 82mm mortar,
1X GAZ-66,
3X 57mm Anti-Tank gun,
3X GAZ-66;

Mortar platoon:
1X Riffle section,
1X GAZ-66,
1X Art observer,
1X GAZ OP JEEP,
3X 82mm mortar,
1X GAZ-66,
3X 120mm Mortar,
3X GAZ-66;

Artillery platoon:
1X Riffle section,
1X GAZ-66,
1X Art observer,
1X GAZ OP JEEP,
3X 76mm gun,
3X GAZ-66

Anti-Air platoon:
5X ZSU M-16

The battlefield (100x50) is automatically generated.

I will soon start this confrontation and inform you of its progress.

English is not my mother tongue, so be indulgent with me please. :)

Thank you!

-Luc-

-Luc- June 22nd, 2011 02:12 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
The third world war has begun!

Location: Fulda Gap;
Date: 1948/06;
Enemy: USA;
Mission: Meeting;
Visibility: 15;
Turns: 90;

1- Most of the Soviet forces will follow the east-west axis formed by the paved road;

2- A RECCE unit will take place on the central hills to monitoring sector activity.

3- The front will be guarded by an infantry platoon, AT of the support platoon and a few AA units;

4- Bombardment of the hill (with paved road) is scheduled to begin in the third round.

Here is a map of the initial situation:

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/.../WinSPMBTD.jpg

Thank you,

-Luc-

Roman June 22nd, 2011 10:31 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
His soldiers will stand 43 years of struggle? More than one will suffer from arthritis.:D

-Luc- June 23rd, 2011 12:17 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roman (Post 779314)
His soldiers will stand 43 years of struggle? More than one will suffer from arthritis.:D

Knowing this game, I doubt that a soldier survive that long! but we'll see...

***

Turn 1,2,3,4:

Good! Soviet forces advancing...

4 RECCE units on White scout car, due to their greater mobility, move foward the column. They are followed by the T-34/85s who are ready to help if necessary. The 3 infantry platoons, aboard their GAZ-66, following behind along the road.

No enemy, no activity...

But, At the end of turn 4, the U.S. 81mm mortar bomb at the end of the column. The section of St. Leit. Golubev is touched and lost four men. 5 M24 Chaffee appear running down the hillside, one of them fires a round without reaching its target.

CCCP: -4 soldiers

Turn 5:

A shootout began between the Leiten. Kalinichenko T-34/85, which led the way and the M24 Chaffee; the third attempt of Kalinichenko to destroy the M24 Chaffee, under intense response, is sucessfull. Others T-34/85 are deploying while the infantry get out and takes cover. The GAZ-66 are scattered on both sides of the road.

USA: -1 M24 Chaffee

The M24 Chaffee continue their offensive. Kalinichenko, which remained immobile while the other T-34/85 took position, destroyed 2 more. 4 M4A3E8 are emerging north of the road! The Ml. Serzh. Babkin, who was there destroy 1 tank. 100m separates belligerents ... The United States intensify their shelling of mortars. Strangely, artillery observers are destroyed when they were well away from the bombing.

CCCP: -2 soldiers
USA: -2 M24 Chaffee, -1 M4A3E8

Turn 6:

Babkin, destroyed again a M4A3E8 at the first attemp before retreating behind the a home. Kalinichenko moves slightly to the north under the cover of some trees to ambush the tanks that could attack Babkin. The Ml. Serzh. Morozov remains on the roadh between the buildings while the Kapitan Nikonov continues its advance cautiously to the south of the road. The infantry slowly approaching from the east to take a position in the buildings along the route.

USA: -1 M4A3E8

Morozov destroyed an M24 Chaffee up on the road. The U.S. does not bomb more ...

USA: -1 M24 Chaffee

Here the situation at the beginning of turn 7:

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...WinSPMBTT7.jpg

Thank you,

-Luc-

-Luc- June 28th, 2011 10:48 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Hi,

The struggle continues!

Turn 7:

The M4A3E8 who were north of the road disappeared. Morozov hunting crew of the M24 Chaffee that he destroyed a few moments earlier and defends its position between the buildings. Babkin and Kalinichenko, covering each other, began a cautious move towards the top of the hill. Nikonov continues to advance slowly Artillery, Zis-3 76mm and 120mm mortars, fearing an anti-battery bombrdement, move north across the fields.

USA: -2 crewman

The U.S. bombard briefly with 60mm mortar the road east of the buildings; no soviet casualties. The advance of the infantry is slowed down. A M24 Chaffee appears in front of Nikonov. He shoot but miss his target. A M4A3E8, heading south is also saw. Again, Nikonov fired without reaching its target. Another M4A3E8 but this time in front of Morozov who destroyed it immediately. Another M4A3E8 appears but this time north of the buildings. Kalinichenko draws followed by Babkin. Both miss. However, the fear encourage the enemy to use his smoke and the exchange of fire is stopped. Unfortunately, the reconnaissance unit of Serzh Popov is nearby and is targeted. He lost a man before retreating.

CCCP : -1 soldat
USA : -1 M4A3E8

Turn 8:

Nikonov target and shoots 2 times the M4A3E8 and every time without destroying it. The enemy tank fire too. Nikonov withdrew under cover of trees between the buildings. The M24 Chaffee was ineffective after the firing of the 12.7mm of the White scout car of Serzh Lazov, just behind Nikonov, who was ambushed. Morozov and Babkin remain immobile while Kalinichenko moving slowly in an attempt to circle the M4A3E8 behind the cloud of smoke. The infantry took place in buildings and artillery are being restructured.

The M24 Chaffee targets the reconnaissance unit of Ml. Serzh. Galeev losing a man. The U.S. bombed again mortar 81mm but do victim.

CCCP: -1 soldier

Here the situation at the begining of turn 9:

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...WinSPMBTT9.jpg

Thank you,

-Luc-

-Luc- June 30th, 2011 02:43 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Hi,

The battle continues!

Turn 10:

2 U.S. 81mm mortars are found northwest of the intersection. A countur battery fire is planned (3 82mm mortars)in 2 turns. The Serzh Ostovskiy, trying to attract the attention of the immobilized M4A3E8 and M24 Chaffee fire use his 12.7mm against them. The M24 Chaffee and M4A3E8 response without reaching their target. Their focus on Ostovskiy, Morozov can approach the M24 Chaffee and destroy it with 1 shot. After, Nikonov can engage the M4A3E8 without fear of side attack. The tank was hit on the second attempt and his crew out. Ostovskiy attempts to destroy them without success. By redeploying between buildings, Babkin falls into an ambush; a rifle section fire at him. He fire and kill 2 soldiers before the unit drawback under cover of a wood. Kalinichenko, who reached the top of the hill is consolidating its position as the soviet infantry continued to move foward.

USA: -2 soldiers, -1 M24 Chaffee, -1 M4A3E8

The American infantry, consisting of three rifle sections, are pursuing the advance. However, it suffered the fire of T-34/85 and the White scout car of Ml. Serzh. Igoshin. Two more M4A3E8 appear northwest of the road. Kalinichenko fire and draws. The USA continued their bombardment of 81mm mortar without damage.

USA: -2 soldiers

Turn 12:

Kalinichenko, immobilised, attempting to destroy a M4A3E8 without success. During the second exchange of fire, the ennemy touched him and the crew bailed out. Under pressure, the T-34/85s, position themselves defensively. The battlefield is obscured by smoke ... Some exchanges of fire eliminate an American soldier.

USA: -1 soldier

The offensive of the U.S. infantry is broken. However, the M4A3E8 are approching to buildings from the north. Morozov shoots and misses. A second tank appears. This time, the tank is destroyed by Morozov . The USA continued their bombardment of 60mm mortar while the soviet counter battery fire begins and do a victim on USA side.

USA: -1 soldier, -1 M4A3E8

Turn 13:

3 more M4A3E8 are now present near the buildings on the north and are facing Morozov and Nikonov. A shootout begins. Nikonov destroyed a tank before his tank is destroyed by the enemy. Morozov took advantage of the concentration of enemy fire to destroy the two remaining M4A3E8. During the firefight, some crewman are killed.

CCCP: -1 T-34/85
USA: -1 soldiers, - 2 M4A3E8

New infantry units appear in the south of the buildings. Some try to take a position in them; 11 U.S. soldiers die. The 81mm mortar bombs again no casualties Soviet.

USA: -11 soldiers

Turn 14:

The remaining M4A3E8 (south) now threatens the Soviet infantry. Morozov moves south-east to the ambush while Bakin is rather north-east to cover that flank. The soviet infantry, is waiting...

U.S. infantry units are now 10 and put a lot of pressure on the Soviet Union. The unity of the Ml. Serzh. lost two men in the crossfire. The U.S. bombs still 81mm mortar without damage. The soviet counter battery fire do another victim.

CCCP: -2 soldiers
USA: -1 soldier

Here the situation now:

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...inSPMBTT15.jpg

Thank you!

-Luc-

-Luc- August 29th, 2011 01:00 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Hi, I'm back after a ''short'' break... :)

Turn 15:

The Soviet infantry, supressed by American bombing, waiting patiently prominent enemy assault. Babkin and Morozov are ready and Ostovskiy, in his White scout car, go to the east in the hills.

The American infantry, in large number and determined, try to expel the Soviet infantry of the buildings. The attempt fails and ends with the loss of several U.S. soldiers and few Soviet casualties. The 60 mm mortar U.S. still firing while the soviet guns respond killing 2 enemy gunners.

CCCP : -3 soldiers
USA : -8 soldiers

Turn 16:

The Soviet infantry resisted the U.S. offensive but now, the ennemies are very close. The Ml. Serzh Voroshilov trying to free themselves from the adverse pressure but, by eliminating an soldiers, he lose two men in the crossfire. The Ml. Serzh Trofimov was lucky and managed to eliminate two American soldiers with no victim. The Kapitaine Lermontov eliminates a U.S. soldier. Finally, Morozov courageously destroyed M4A3E8 and three American soldiers.

CCCP : -3 soldiers
USA : -7 soldiers, - M4A3E8

The U.S. offensive is temporarily stopped. However, the bombing of the U.S. 60mm mortar continues without casualties.

Turn 17:

The soviet task force try to consolidate his defensive position while eliminating potential enemies it faces. Thus, Morozov eliminates two additional U.S. troops. However, the ongoing American bombing prompted the St. Leit Puhov to leave his position and he lose three men.

CCCP : -3 soldiers
USA : -2 soldiers

Again, the U.S. does not advance. However, they get a relative success with their bombing of 81mm mortars. The Ml. Serzh lost two mens and Voroshilov 1.

CCCP : -3 soldiers

For now thats all!
That game is very good! :)

Thank you,

-Luc-

-Luc- November 3rd, 2011 09:51 AM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Hi,

I must inform you that due to formatting my computer, I unfortunately lost my campaign. :(

I will certainly begin a new one and I will apply what I learned from my battles against other players. :)

I will also change the format of my combat reports...

Thank,

-Luc-

-Luc- November 9th, 2011 01:25 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Hi,

I restarted my long campaign (1948-1991/200 battles) as commander of Soviet forces against NATO (USA/UK/France).

Here is my new and better (I think) TO&E (1948/06):

HQ :
HQ - 1X GAZ JEEP,
1X Riffle section - 1X GAZ-66;

RECCE platoon :
5X Scout team - 5X White scout car;

Engineer platoon:
1X PT-34,
1X T-34 BTU,
1X Engineer - 1X GAZ-66;

Motorized infantry company:
10X Riffle section - 3X RPG-6 team - 10X GAZ-66,
3X 7.62 SMG MMG - 1X GAZ-66;

Tank platoon:
4X T-34/85;

Support platoon:
3X 82mm mortar - 1X GAZ-66,
3X 76mm Anti-tank gun - 3X GAZ-66;

Mortar platoon:
1X Riffle section - 1X GAZ-66,
1X Art observer - 1X GAZ JEEP,
3X 82mm mortar - 1X GAZ-66,
3X 120mm Mortar - 3X GAZ-66;

Artillery platoon:
1X Riffle section - 1X GAZ-66,
1X Art observer - 1X GAZ OP JEEP,
3X 76mm gun - 3X GAZ-66;

Ammo section:
2X Ammo container - 2X GAZ-66;

Anti-Air platoon:
5X ZSU M-16;

Regimental artillery platoon:
3X OFF-MAP 152mm D-1 FG.

The battlefield (100x50) will be again automatically generated by the game.

However, I'll change the location of objectives for more realism.

Thank you,

-Luc-

-Luc- November 9th, 2011 05:04 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Hi,

Location: Bad Homburg;
Date: 1948/06;
Enemy: USA;
Mission: Meeting;
Visibility: 10;
Turns: 90;

Map of battlefield:
http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...CPC06-1948.jpg

Soviet task force:
http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...CPD06-1948.jpg

The terrain is difficult.

There is only one east-west axis.

Soviet forces will have no choice to use it. Bridges are our goal.

6X82mm mortars will create a smoke screen east of the 1st bridge.

3X76mm FG + 3X120mm mortars will bombard the hill next to the 1st bridge.

2/3 of the RECCE platoon will open the way followed by T-34/85s and 2 MOT INF platoons and 3 AA units.

FOs will take positions on hills in the north and south.

Here we go!

Thank you,

-Luc-

-Luc- November 10th, 2011 10:36 AM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Hi,

FIRST CONTACT! Turn 6.

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...PT606-1948.jpg

The Americans crossed the second bridge.

2 M-46 appear on the road. The PT-34 shoot but miss. An M-46 create a smoke screen.

The PT-34 go back and other T-34 take defensive position.

M-46 is superior to the T-34/85, I'm little bit nervous...

Our 82mm mortars started firing around the bridge.

Our 76mm FG and 120mm mortars still firing.

Thank you,

-Luc-

-Luc- November 10th, 2011 09:35 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Hi,

Turn 6-7:

Many american tanks (M46 and M24) appear in front of our T-34/85; they are easily destroyed...

Some american 81mm motars start firing the rear of our columm.

We spot the smoke and put our 152mm D-1 on them.

Turn 8:

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...PT806-1948.jpg

Surprise! More tanks (M4A3E8) from the south. Our FO must retreat.

Turn 8-14:

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...T1406-1948.jpg

Few tanks (mostly M26) try to force the way again from west without success.

Soviet forces push foward: unfortunatly a dammaged M26 hit a T-34/85!

The tank of Ml. Serzh. Bezugliy explode... no survivor.

Our infantry reach our tanks and take defensive position; some american soldiers are coming.

American mortars fire less. Our CB work well.

Thank you!

-Luc-

runequester November 11th, 2011 12:27 AM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Keep it up. Im 4 battles into a similar campaign, though I started in 46.

Oche November 11th, 2011 03:05 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
I like to read this too, good job.

-Luc- November 23rd, 2011 01:19 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Hi,

Thank you Runequester and Oche! :)

Turn 15-20:

We find 2 more M26 during our advance.

Hopefully, because they are on harsh terrain, they cant fire and soon, they are destroyed.

Our 82mm mortar start firing US infantry along the river

Their 60mm mortar start firing too.

Soviet infantry take few casulties.

Soviet forces keep their position and reinforcement from the back (1 mot inf platoon) are arriving.

American lost a lot of men and equipent, I'm confident...

Soon the front will broke, I'm sure... :)

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...T2006-1948.jpg

Thank you,

-Luc-

-Luc- November 25th, 2011 10:14 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Hi,

Turn 21-35:

OH!? ... bad surprise... but they seem stuck...

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...T2306-1948.jpg

The fight is hard, american soldiers show determination.

We lost 3 T-34/85:

Major Baturin; hopfully 3 crewman survived.

Ml. Serzh. Zaborniy, Leiten. Lisin and their crews, unfortunatly died.

AT weapons of US soldiers did a better work than tanks...

Finally, after a lot of american, and soviet casulties, we crossed the bridge.

Soviet are regrouping and preparing for the next operation step.

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...T3506-1948.jpg

Thank you,

-Luc-

-Luc- November 27th, 2011 11:20 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Hi,

Turn 36-44:

US tanks are stuck and, we decide to let them their...

Few US soldiers still fighting along the road, but nothing serious.

US HQ is found on the road! The T-34/85 take care of them.

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...T3606-1948.jpg

Soviet forces reach the second bridge.

Few US mortar can be targeted and that's what we do.

Unfortunatly, a lone Bazooka shoot and destroy a ZSU-16.

Soon, all flags are ours and we win the fight! :)

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...CPF06-1948.jpg

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...PSC06-1948.jpg

Thank you,

-Luc-

-Luc- November 28th, 2011 03:49 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Hi,

My analysis of the battle:

Despite their superior quality and quantity, Americans misused their potential. Their frontal assault was a complete failure.

Their tanks (M26 and M46) were better than ours and could have been a serious problem for us. We believe that a lack of synergy explains the failure.Their infantry were also better. Often, their results were higher than ours, and despite that ours positions (top of hill) was better. Thus, they were able to approach and destroyed many of our tanks.Our infantry also tends to run away often and stuck under mortar fire. Their artillery, even fewer than ours, has been well used.

Our biggest problem is the transport of infantry. The trucks cant follow the tanks. Our tanks are becoming vulnerable.

During the next battle, we need to use better both, even lossing a tank quality, the movement.

Overall, we will maintain our strategy seems to be effective. Bombing, recognize, concentrate forces, bombing and attack.

Is it the Blitzkrieg?

Thank you,

-Luc-

Suhiir November 28th, 2011 05:10 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by -Luc- (Post 789568)
Is it the Blitzkrieg?

In essence Blitzkrieg involves poking a hole in your opponents front line then spreading out behind his front line and destroying support and supply units to make the rest of his units/positions vulnerable. The second (behind the opponents lines) part is the real "destruction" caused by the Blitzkrieg type attack.

Given that WinSPMBT deals primarily with front line type units rather then support types you're performing the "hole poking" part of a Blitzkrieg but not the "rampage behind the lines" part.

-Luc- December 3rd, 2011 12:54 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Hi,

Location: Starsbourg?;
Date: 1948/08;
Enemy: France;
Mission: Assault;
Visibility: 20;
Turns: 90;

No big change in my TO&E:

HQ support infantry is now an SMG section,

In support I have:

1X RECCE plane
3X IL-10 with 100kg bombs.

Map of battlefield:
http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...CPC08-1948.jpg

Soviet task force:
http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...CPD08-1948.jpg

4 RECCE section will follow the dirt road.

PT-34 and T-34/85 follow them 250m behind and will be ready to begin the fight.

Infantries will stay 250m behind tanks in their trucks.

***

At the first crossroad, the force will turn to the south and after, to the west in direction of the hill.

T-34/85 BTU and a platoon of infantries will secure the crossroad.

The hill is our first objective; this is highest point and from there, we will dominate the situation...

Our mortars and guns will prepare the battlefield for tanks and infantries.

Thank you,

-Luc-

-Luc- December 5th, 2011 11:28 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Hi,

TURN 5: The RECCE plane see some troops...

We regroup and plan our attack.

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...PT506-1948.jpg

RECCE troops open the way followed by tanks and infantries.

The fight begin!

French infantries are tought because:

A lot of mens (13) in each sections;
A lot of bazookas units and in infantries sections;
Their trenchs give them a good protection.

More infantries are there than expected; the plane didnt saw everything...

We push hard, move foward, but we loose many mens and waste a lot of munitions.

Mines are discovered... Their 81mm mortars start firing...

The fight is hard and we losed a first tank.

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...T1506-1948.jpg

Thank you,

-Luc-

Suhiir December 7th, 2011 12:21 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Dug in infantry can be very difficult to dislodge in WinSPMBT; nearly impossible to suppress and they seem to hit at least twice as often/hard as the attackers. I frequently find it necessary to resupply ammo after using everything a platoon (often two) has suppressing just one dug-in position enough I can get an infantry unit to it and assault ... seems to be the only reliable way to dislodge them. On rare occasions one will break and leave it's position or be destroyed by fire prior to an assault but it's not something to count on.

-Luc- December 7th, 2011 01:50 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Hi,

Youre right Suhiir...

Turn 5-37:

The Soviet forces put lot of pressure on the French.

The fight is difficult but we can advance a little bit each turn.

French mortars are deadly; an infantry section reinforcement and a AA unit are destroyed.

We spot smoke and call for air support: the sky is clear!? Few turn later, Il-10s drop 2 100kg bombs on each mortar.

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...T2208-1948.jpg

On the ground, things are difficult: we loose another tank and many mens.

Soviet engineer open a way in mines field under heavy fire from the enemy on their flank.

Troops are exhausted and artillery will soon run out of ammunitions.

Carefully, we reach the small town who was almost empty; we take positions and will wait for reinforcement...

Unfortunately, the tank of Major Baturin run in mines and being imobilized.

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...T3708-1948.jpg

Thank you,

-Luc-

-Luc- December 8th, 2011 02:07 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Hi,

Turn 38-END

Small town secured and soviet reinforcement arrived: we can move to our next objective: crossroad to the west.

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...T4708-1948.jpg

After we sized the crossroad, french start attacking!

They put a lot of presure everywhere we are, espacially on the small town we captured.

We lost 2 infantry sections, 2 White scout cars, 2 MGs and a GAZ-69 during that very hard fight.

Major Baturin, 1 infantry section, the FO team and the crew of ammo crate resist; they are warheroes...

At the crossroad, this is the same thing... but the fresh troops, with tank support, still in position.

After that, everything become quiet and we sized every objectives points...

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...CPF08-1948.jpg

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...PSC08-1948.jpg

That one was hard...

Thank you,

-Luc-

Wdll December 8th, 2011 11:02 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Well done. Interesting.

When I have to go through such defenses I usually place smoke in two parallel lines crossing the defenses and bomb (arti) the **** out of the units in that "corridor". With a couple of turns of heavy bombing and a couple of fast but good against infantry, vehicles/apcs, I approach the "corridor" and try to make the enemy troops use any will to fight. Then I bring in the heavy equipment and just break through with ease. Just make sure when you approach your units to shift the artillery to up and down of the "corridor" so that it suppresses any enemy units thinking of moving towards it, but not close enough to be a risk to your own units crossing it. If you have any infantry available (scouts or engineers) with those first vehicles you approach, they can help to hold the now empty trenches even after your tanks have crossed. But that's just me.

-Luc- December 15th, 2011 02:34 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Hi,

Thank you Wdll, I'll try that next time!

My analysis of the battle:

My biggest surprise was the resistance offered by the French infantry. The large number of soldiers and anti-tank weapons was beyond expectations. Removing these troops from their trenches was more difficult tahn expected and required a lot of effort and ammunition...

The absence of anti-aircraft weapons was also a surprise. This allowed me to use the airspace without danger. Destruction by IL-10 of the enemy artillery was very helpful. The spotter plane helped a lot too.

After two battles, I realize that the opponent neglect some elements for a large number of troops... strange ...

Still, the battle has been hard.

Thank you,

-Luc-

-Luc- December 20th, 2011 11:12 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Hi,

Location: Stadthagen;
Date: 1948/11;
Enemy: Great Britain;
Mission: Meeting;
Visibility: 15;
Turns: 90;

No big change in my TO&E:

After some reading on this site, I chose an SMG section for every infantry platoon... :)

Unfortunately, no air support available. :(

Map of battlefield:

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...CPC11-1948.jpg

Soviet forces:

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...CPD11-1948.jpg

Main forces will follow the east-west road to te first village.

A second group, smaller, will capture and defend the village in the south.

The departure city will be strengthened and artillery will stay there.

Our objectif: Capture the first village and the central hills.

After that, we will see...

Thank you,

-Luc-

-Luc- December 28th, 2011 11:12 AM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Hi,

FIRST CONTACT! Turn 5:

UK scout cars (Lynx) are discovered in the first town.

Our T-34/85 destroy them quickly... and wait for infantry support.

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...506-1948-1.jpg

Turn 6-9:

Our tanks and infantry move foward.

Few gunned scout cars (Staghound) are destoyed and ennemy infantry are discovered.

Soviet soldiers take defensive position along the road.

The 76mm and 82mm shells begin to fall on the enemy.

BAD SURPRISE! A Centurion MK2!

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...PT906-1948.jpg

Our best tankcrew ( Major Baturin) move to the south, taking advantage of the topography, to ambush the tank.

The enemy tank is far superior than ours but... from the side, we still have a chance.

I'm a little bit nervous...

Thank you,

-Luc-

-Luc- December 29th, 2011 11:51 AM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Hi,

Turn 10-15:

The ambush works well, it allows the destruction of two Centurions MK2.

However, many others appear on the front line at close range; we are quickly overwhelmed.

***

Soviet second group sized the small village in the south of the map.

UK 3 inchs motars start firing and we put our 152mm D-1 on them.

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...T1208-1948.jpg

UK tanks are superior: their frontal armor resist to the regular AP round of ours T-34/85s.

With only 6 special round in our tanks, the situation become quickly critical...

We have to retreat in the city and ambush these tanks with RPGs!

Unfortunately, things will be different.

During an harsh fight, we lose successively our PT-34 and 2 T-34/85s.

Some Crowells appears on the hill! Hopefully, one of our last 2 tanks take care of them.

Major Baturin try to destroy some Centurion but its dificult...

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...T1508-1948.jpg

Thank you,

-Luc-

-Luc- December 30th, 2011 02:55 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Hi,

Turn 16-28:

After fierce fighting, UK tanks are burning and infantry is routed.

Our infantry, espacially our engineers with flamethrower and satchels, were very brave and efficient.

Unfortunately, we lost 2 SMG sections and the hero of the Soviet Union, Major Baturin.

After that, we can regroup move forward.

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...T2311-1948.jpg

Some units are met and destroyed easily.

SURPRISE! UK HQ on the road again! It's not the first time...

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...T2811-1948.jpg

We toke care of them...

Thank you,

-Luc-

-Luc- January 3rd, 2012 01:27 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Hi,

Turn 29-END

In our progress towards the 3 village, a Churchill tank threat Soviet forces that have almost no AT munitions.

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...T3011-1948.jpg

Fortunately, the infantry succeeded in eliminating the tank.

Another Churchill appear to our southern flank but falls into an ambush prepared by ours engineers.

This is a bad surprise for the soviets who are exhausted.

****

Meanwhile, a few infantry units attacked the village to the southeast. They are easily destroyed.

The decision to bring the T-34/85 BTU as reinforcements on the main front is taken.

It will be a good decision...

***

THE CENTRAL HILL IS UNDER ATTACK!!!

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...T3111-1948.jpg

The situation is critical... 2 Centurion MKII.

A White scout car is lost and soviet forces retreat.

This is a big threat, we have to reorganise ourself fast!

We plot an ambush with what we have...

***

After fierce fighting, and some losses, the enemy is destroyed and the victory is ours.

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...CPF11-1948.jpg

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...PSC11-1948.jpg

That was a good fight!

Thank you,

-Luc-

-Luc- January 4th, 2012 12:07 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Hi,

ANALYSIS:

UK forces were better organized than others.

They had:
- RECCE elements;
- Good and mordern armored force (Centurion MK2);
- Infantry support;
- Artillery support (3 inches mortars, 40mm AA guns);

Their strategy was not bad et well executed.

The combination tank-infantry-mortars caused most of my losses early in the game.

Their reserve forces (Churchills) was an unpleasant surprise ...

Their Centurion are better than our T-34/85. They are practically invulnerable from the front while our tanks cant resist to their main gun. This is a real problem... I want to change them, but by what... IS-3? I have important choices to do for the next battle.

Their infantry was not bad but inferior to our. 1 SMG section per platoon was a good idea. Unfortunatly they all died. We can say that our infantry saved us by destroying many tanks with RPG-6 AT genades, satchel charges and flamethrower. The addition of the RPG-2 in 1949 will be much appreciated. Our enginneers were very brave and effective. The problem of coordination between tanks and infantry remains. I think I should carry some units on the tanks to be have them on the front at the right time. Is it a good idea? Until we get BTRs, I see no better choice.

Our Regimental 152mm D-1 worked very well; they eliminated 2 of 3 mortars in CB fire. I realised that our 76mm Zis-3 FG are not enought powerfull. I'll probably change them for the 122mm M-30. Untill now, I am satisfied with my mortars.

I think adding a reserve platoon to liberate my regular forces...

Despite my modest losses, the battle was difficult.

Thank you,

-Luc

Suhiir January 4th, 2012 03:34 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by -Luc- (Post 791929)
Their infantry was not bad but inferior to our. 1 SMG section per platoon was a good idea. Unfortunatly they all died. We can say that our infantry saved us by destroying many tanks with RPG-6 AT genades, satchel charges and flamethrower. The addition of the RPG-2 in 1949 will be much appreciated. Our enginneers were very brave and effective. The problem of coordination between tanks and infantry remains. I think I should carry some units on the tanks to be have them on the front at the right time. Is it a good idea? Until we get BTRs, I see no better choice.

Infantry riding tanks works fine till the tanks receive fire, then the infantry gets hit hard as they have no cover at all. Don't place infantry on the lead tank, when it's fired on the rest know it is time to unload their infantry.

-Luc- January 4th, 2012 04:01 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suhiir (Post 791945)
Infantry riding tanks works fine till the tanks receive fire, then the infantry gets hit hard as they have no cover at all. Don't place infantry on the lead tank, when it's fired on the rest know it is time to unload their infantry.

And... on which tank do you think they should ride? ;)

T-44 was a transition tank built in very small number.

T-54-1 was full of technical problems and was never fielded.

IS-3 is the last option but I dont really like heavy tanks for many reasons...

Maybe they have a good protection, but they are slow and dont have a lot of ammos.

I'll do some experiments tonigt.

Thank you,

-Luc-

Aeraaa January 4th, 2012 04:34 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
I played only 1 game with a Soviet force in 1946 and my views on heavy tanks is exactly the opposite. Soviet heavies are BEASTS, they can survive close range hits from 90mm guns! If you ever play an assault scenario, I'd recommend them...

gila January 4th, 2012 06:42 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Suhiir (Post 791945)
Quote:

Originally Posted by -Luc- (Post 791929)
Their infantry was not bad but inferior to our. 1 SMG section per platoon was a good idea. Unfortunatly they all died. We can say that our infantry saved us by destroying many tanks with RPG-6 AT genades, satchel charges and flamethrower. The addition of the RPG-2 in 1949 will be much appreciated. Our enginneers were very brave and effective. The problem of coordination between tanks and infantry remains. I think I should carry some units on the tanks to be have them on the front at the right time. Is it a good idea? Until we get BTRs, I see no better choice.

Infantry riding tanks works fine till the tanks receive fire, then the infantry gets hit hard as they have no cover at all. Don't place infantry on the lead tank, when it's fired on the rest know it is time to unload their infantry.

Little wonder,on why desant infrantry was deemed not a good idea anymore when the guns got to 90-120mm.:)

gila January 4th, 2012 06:53 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Seriously,

I would suggest never using tank riders at all,except the first .
turn or two,maybe.

Very vunerable to small arms fire.

The AI "will" target them and in pbem also they make a juicy target.

Thats why there is APC's,albiet, they are choice targets also;)

Suhiir January 4th, 2012 07:26 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Really just a matter of getting off before you get fired on.
IFVs/APCs/trucks all have their uses, as do tank-riders. It's merely a matter of weighing the advantages vs the disadvantages of each.

gila January 4th, 2012 08:07 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
I find it is almost always true,the time to dis-embark,was the last turn:p

Suhiir January 4th, 2012 10:36 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gila (Post 791970)
I find it is almost always true,the time to dis-embark,was the last turn:p

Truer words have seldom been spoken.

gila January 4th, 2012 11:00 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by -Luc- (Post 79192)
I think I should carry some units on the tanks to be have them on the front at the right time. Is it a good idea? Until we get BTRs, I see no better choice.

Why not just walk your infrantry units,that way get the nasties (AT units) before they do in your AFV's?
It's the best way unless you are in a rush,in this game you should never hurry:)

-Luc- January 5th, 2012 11:46 AM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Hi,

I always believed that tanks were made for breaking the front.

They, as weapon system, have to be well protected, armed and fast... and, as objective, the domination of the battlefield.

They have to work with infantry, not to be protected by them!? If this is the case, SU-76/122/152 have been better choices.

I'm not a WW1 fan... ;)

***

Speed ​​is a key factor in the success of a military operation.

That's why it is essential that all weapon systems are at the right time at right place.

If one of them does not follow, the rhythm is broken.

The first to reach/occupy objectives is favored.

***

I did some tests yesterday and I think I'm gonna remplace my T-34/85s by IS-3s.

The protection is good and, with their AT ammos, they can destroy any NATO tanks.

I have to plan a good logistic to reammo them...

Thank you,

-Luc-

Suhiir January 5th, 2012 12:15 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by -Luc- (Post 792016)
Hi,

I always believed that tanks were made for breaking the front.

They, as weapon system, have to be well protected, armed and fast... and, as objective, the domination of the battlefield.

They have to work with infantry, not to be protected by them!? If this is the case, SU-76/122/152 have been better choices.

I'm not a WW1 fan... ;)

***

Speed ​​is a key factor in the success of a military operation.

That's why it is essential that all weapon systems are at the right time at right place.

If one of them does not follow, the rhythm is broken.

The first to reach/occupy objectives is favored.

***

I did some tests yesterday and I think I'm gonna remplace my T-34/85s by IS-3s.

The protection is good and, with their AT ammos, they can destroy any NATO tanks.

I have to plan a good logistic to reammo them...

Thank you,

-Luc-

Come the 70's when ATGMs start to show up on the battlefield I think you'll find out that while speed and tanks have their uses the classic armored steamroller becomes more suicidal then successful. But since you're in the 40's enjoy it while you can.

Aeraaa January 5th, 2012 12:36 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Although in the 80ies tanks become quite resistant to most ATGM again (with the exception of TOWs...)

Roman January 6th, 2012 01:40 AM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by -Luc- (Post 788272)
Hi,

I restarted my long campaign (1948-1991/200 battles) as commander of Soviet forces against NATO (USA/UK/France).

Here is my new and better (I think) TO&E (1948/06):

HQ :
HQ - 1X GAZ JEEP,
1X Riffle section - 1X GAZ-66;

RECCE platoon :
5X Scout team - 5X White scout car;

Engineer platoon:
1X PT-34,
1X T-34 BTU,
1X Engineer - 1X GAZ-66;

Motorized infantry company:
10X Riffle section - 3X RPG-6 team - 10X GAZ-66,
3X 7.62 SMG MMG - 1X GAZ-66;

Tank platoon:
4X T-34/85;

Support platoon:
3X 82mm mortar - 1X GAZ-66,
3X 76mm Anti-tank gun - 3X GAZ-66;

Mortar platoon:
1X Riffle section - 1X GAZ-66,
1X Art observer - 1X GAZ JEEP,
3X 82mm mortar - 1X GAZ-66,
3X 120mm Mortar - 3X GAZ-66;

Artillery platoon:
1X Riffle section - 1X GAZ-66,
1X Art observer - 1X GAZ OP JEEP,
3X 76mm gun - 3X GAZ-66;

Ammo section:
2X Ammo container - 2X GAZ-66;

Anti-Air platoon:
5X ZSU M-16;

Regimental artillery platoon:
3X OFF-MAP 152mm D-1 FG.

The battlefield (100x50) will be again automatically generated by the game.

However, I'll change the location of objectives for more realism.

Thank you,

-Luc-

I'm trying to create or the same campaign you but I have a question.
Did you create this force of an oob own? Why not find the rifle sections that support the mortar platoon. Nor is a section of engineers. I have only to choose options platoons as smaller units. Do you understand?
Regards

-Luc- January 6th, 2012 04:15 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roman (Post 792079)
I'm trying to create or the same campaign you but I have a question.
Did you create this force of an oob own? Why not find the rifle sections that support the mortar platoon. Nor is a section of engineers. I have only to choose options platoons as smaller units. Do you understand?
Regards

This is a modified TO&E I have created from real data...

It represents, in my opinion, a fraction of a soviet battalion in 1948.

The riffle section you see (Mortar/Artillery platoon) represent their HQ and... defence.

With these forces, the battle lasts about 50 turns of 90; can you imagine with more!

The organizational structure will change a little bitin 1954...

***

So... here is my new TO&E (1949/01):

HQ :
HQ - 1X GAZ JEEP,
1X Riffle section - 1X GAZ-66;

RECCE platoon :
5X Scout team (RPG-2) - 5X White scout car;

Engineer platoon:
1X PT-34,
1X T-34 BTU,
1X Engineer - 1X GAZ-66;

Motorized infantry company:
4X SMG section - 6X Riffle section (4X RPG-2/2X Sniper) - 3X RPG-2 team - 10X GAZ-66,
3X 7.62 SMG MMG - 1X GAZ-66;

Tank platoon:
4X IS-3;

Support platoon:
3X 82mm mortar - 1X GAZ-66,
3X 85mm D-44 AT gun - 3X GAZ-66;

Mortar platoon:
1X Riffle section - 1X GAZ-66,
1X Art observer - 1X GAZ JEEP,
3X 82mm mortar - 1X GAZ-66,
3X 120mm Mortar - 3X GAZ-66;

Artillery platoon:
1X Riffle section - 1X GAZ-66,
1X Art observer - 1X GAZ OP JEEP,
3X 122mm M-30 FH - 3X GAZ-66;

Ammo section:
2X Ammo container - 2X GAZ-66;

Anti-Air platoon:
5X ZSU M-16;

Regimental artillery platoon:
3X OFF-MAP 152mm D-1 FG

I'm setting next battle!

Thank you!

-Luc-

Roman January 7th, 2012 02:44 AM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Ok. thanks for responding. I will investigate to change the TO&E. Regards

Roman January 8th, 2012 12:53 AM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by -Luc- (Post 792113)
Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roman (Post 792079)
I'm trying to create or the same campaign you but I have a question.
Did you create this force of an oob own? Why not find the rifle sections that support the mortar platoon. Nor is a section of engineers. I have only to choose options platoons as smaller units. Do you understand?
Regards

This is a modified TO&E I have created from real data...

It represents, in my opinion, a fraction of a soviet battalion in 1948.

The riffle section you see (Mortar/Artillery platoon) represent their HQ and... defence.

With these forces, the battle lasts about 50 turns of 90; can you imagine with more!

The organizational structure will change a little bitin 1954...

***

So... here is my new TO&E (1949/01):

HQ :
HQ - 1X GAZ JEEP,
1X Riffle section - 1X GAZ-66;

RECCE platoon :
5X Scout team (RPG-2) - 5X White scout car;

Engineer platoon:
1X PT-34,
1X T-34 BTU,
1X Engineer - 1X GAZ-66;

Motorized infantry company:
4X SMG section - 6X Riffle section (4X RPG-2/2X Sniper) - 3X RPG-2 team - 10X GAZ-66,
3X 7.62 SMG MMG - 1X GAZ-66;

Tank platoon:
4X IS-3;

Support platoon:
3X 82mm mortar - 1X GAZ-66,
3X 85mm D-44 AT gun - 3X GAZ-66;

Mortar platoon:
1X Riffle section - 1X GAZ-66,
1X Art observer - 1X GAZ JEEP,
3X 82mm mortar - 1X GAZ-66,
3X 120mm Mortar - 3X GAZ-66;

Artillery platoon:
1X Riffle section - 1X GAZ-66,
1X Art observer - 1X GAZ OP JEEP,
3X 122mm M-30 FH - 3X GAZ-66;

Ammo section:
2X Ammo container - 2X GAZ-66;

Anti-Air platoon:
5X ZSU M-16;

Regimental artillery platoon:
3X OFF-MAP 152mm D-1 FG

I'm setting next battle!

Thank you!

-Luc-

Could you send me the file that changed oob? Is to study and made ​​the change. Thanks and regards

Paderborn January 11th, 2012 04:51 PM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
I'm enjoying your campaign though I'm surprised with the easy destruction of the M-46 tanks by the T-34/85 tanks. I look forward to following the rest of the campaign. Thanks!

Paderborn January 13th, 2012 10:09 AM

Re: CCCP vs NATO long campaign (1948-1991)
 
Hi Luc

I'm really enjoying your campaign and especially appreciate the inclusion of screenshots! :D Paderborn


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