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Thierry August 3rd, 2011 03:38 PM

Fire bless useability (and death bless ?)
 
Hi !

Is there a way to know for which weapons and attacks the bless operates ?

For instance :
- Monster attacke (suppose I put a holy shroud on a summoned monster for instance) ?
- Magical bow on a blessed commander (I'd like to try the bow that fires 13 arrows...)
- Special troops like LA Tien Chin ancestor bows.

I tried the later and it doesn't seem the fire bless did something for LA Tien Chin.


The same question arises for death bless. Are the conditions the same ? I seem to remember that some (all ?) spells that dealt damage could be enhanced by death bless.

Thanks for your insights and sorry for my (bad) english !

Thierry August 3rd, 2011 04:05 PM

Re: Fire bless useability (and death bless ?)
 
Same question for the spell that turns your arrows in fire...

llamabeast August 4th, 2011 05:48 AM

Re: Fire bless useability (and death bless ?)
 
Fire arrows is relatively easy - there is a list of weapons which are affected, and no others are. I don't know the list offhand, but it includes most things you would want it to - short bows, long bows, composite bows, slingstones (I think), I think even thrown boulders. Notably it does not include poison bows, nor any magical bows.

Fire bless doesn't affect missile weapons. I *think* that Death bless also doesn't give the 2 AN damage on missile weapons, but it certainly does give the affliction bonus (in fact the affliction bonus applies even to spells cast by sacred mages!). Consequently a hail of arrows from death-blessed LA T'ien Chi sacreds will absolutely mess up elite enemies, giving them huge amounts of afflictions. I'm familiar with this from the sacred Asp Archers in my Tomb Kings mod nation - they are also sacred, and giving them a death bless is an effective strategy. Particularly good against e.g. giants, where there are small numbers of troops and afflictions are very bad news.

Deathblob August 4th, 2011 08:49 AM

Re: Fire bless useability (and death bless ?)
 
Flaming Arrows does work with the Bow of War:

Fire Arbalest
Fire Boulder
Fire Bow of War
Fire Chakram
Fire Composite Bow
Fire Crossbow
Fire Javelin
Fire Long Bow
Fire Short Bow
Fire Shuriken
Fire Sling
Fire Small Bow

llamabeast August 4th, 2011 12:09 PM

Re: Fire bless useability (and death bless ?)
 
Awesome. In recent versions of CBM the Bow of War has an increased number of arrows as well - probably pretty effective with a fire bless! :)

Raiel August 4th, 2011 01:18 PM

Re: Fire bless useability (and death bless ?)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by llamabeast (Post 781504)
Awesome. In recent versions of CBM the Bow of War has an increased number of arrows as well - probably pretty effective with a fire bless! :)

Are you sure Fire bless applies to ranged weapons? I thought it was just the D bless that did...

Korwin August 4th, 2011 04:04 PM

Re: Fire bless useability (and death bless ?)
 
He is Talking about Flaming Arrows, not the bless.

llamabeast August 4th, 2011 06:28 PM

Re: Fire bless useability (and death bless ?)
 
Yes I am. D'oh!

Soyweiser August 5th, 2011 08:38 AM

Re: Fire bless useability (and death bless ?)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Deathblob (Post 781488)
Flaming Arrows does work with the Bow of War:

Fire Arbalest
Fire Boulder
Fire Bow of War
Fire Chakram
Fire Composite Bow
Fire Crossbow
Fire Javelin
Fire Long Bow
Fire Short Bow
Fire Shuriken
Fire Sling
Fire Small Bow

wow thanks.

Could you tell me how you got this information?

llamabeast August 5th, 2011 10:52 AM

Re: Fire bless useability (and death bless ?)
 
Searching for "Fire" in Edi's database would be one way of doing it.

Deathblob August 5th, 2011 06:49 PM

Re: Fire bless useability (and death bless ?)
 
That's exactly right, thank you.

His database can be found in his signature.

rdonj August 5th, 2011 08:01 PM

Re: Fire bless useability (and death bless ?)
 
It's times like this I feel like the entire first page of this forum could be stickies, there's so many special case rules for this game and it seems one of them is asked every other week.

Soyweiser August 6th, 2011 11:31 AM

Re: Fire bless useability (and death bless ?)
 
Keep posting stuff, and I'll put it up on the wiki.

I found this on the SA forums, if you escape from being lost in time and space, and you have S magic, you have a chance of getting one more.

I assume this works the same as escaping from kokytus etc.


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