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Val December 13th, 2001 04:40 PM

Opinions on My First ShipSet
 
I just finished my first shipset and wanted to see what y'all thought about it.

Shadri.zip

(December 26th, 2001 - This file now includes all fixes and AI and fixes mentioned up to that date)


I also tried to meet the NeoStandard shipset, so there are about 50 Ships, the 4 Groups (Fighter, Fleet, Mine, Satellite), 3 Population/Race, Shield and Main pics.

Suggestions and comments are most welcome.

Thanks! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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chewy027 December 13th, 2001 05:23 PM

Re: Opinions on My First ShipSet
 
pretty cool, Doga is becoming very popular for shipset makers.

Zarix December 13th, 2001 06:05 PM

Re: Opinions on My First ShipSet
 
Really nice work for a first shipset.

There is small typo. Shadri_Portrait_FighterHeavy should be named Shadri_Portrait_FighterLarge.

Val December 13th, 2001 06:58 PM

Re: Opinions on My First ShipSet
 
Thank you for the compliments and for noticing the typo. I fixed it and reposted the corrected shipset below.

Yeah, DoGA was surprisingly easy to use, and between the tips Chewy & Zircher had and the SS Tutorial posted in other threads I was able to rip through it pretty quickly and start playing with a final product rather quickly. I would like to add some of the lighting effects I have seen to give some models lit hanger bays and such. Also, can you add textures? I haven't really figured either of those out yet.

Also, anyone know where I can get any part downloads for extra premade weapons and such? It isn't too hard to add additional catalog pages to the program and import stuff, I'm just hoping to save a little time http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

zen. December 13th, 2001 07:04 PM

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That's a really cool shipset. So what's all this buzz lately about DOGA? What Version are you guys using? Does the program make it easy to create ships in particular? Most 3D programs I've come across take some doing.

Val, were you a total 3D novice or have you had some experience?

Keep up the great work!

Val December 13th, 2001 07:26 PM

Re: Opinions on My First ShipSet
 
Check out the following thread on making Shipsets:

Ship Sets:How do you do them?

I'm probably a pretty much average user, but have no previous rendering experience. DoGA was about the easiest program to use and it didn't take much time to get something to look how I imagined it. In my opinion it is a lot easier to use than Photoshop or PaintShop Pro. Plus, once you save a ship in a 'class' you can use that as the basis for the ships around it in the same class and just manipulate the pieces. Making the Racial pic was the most difficult thing and is something I'm still trying to make look more 'real'.

ZeroAdunn December 13th, 2001 07:53 PM

Re: Opinions on My First ShipSet
 
Doga is a pretty easy program. Very nice and easy to use. I think pretty much anyone can jump right in and start using it without any background in 3D modeling.

A very nice ship set. It seems almost hard to believe this is your first shipset.

chewy027 December 13th, 2001 09:48 PM

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yeah doga is extremely easy to use. If you take a half an hour of time you can pretty much figure it out. Doga is specifically geared toward making stuff like ships so thats why it has become so popular recently.

As for the textures you really can't in doga other then what they have in the material editor. However, you can import textures from outside.

Atrocities December 14th, 2001 01:53 AM

Re: Opinions on My First ShipSet
 
Very nice Val. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif What Version of Doga are you using, L2 or L3?

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Val December 14th, 2001 04:26 PM

Re: Opinions on My First ShipSet
 
Thanks again http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I started them in L2 and then brought them into L3 after hearing (er.. reading) how much easier it was to create the black background in L3. I wound up remaking the Troops and Weapon Platforms once I brought them into L3 as well.

dogscoff December 14th, 2001 04:49 PM

Re: Opinions on My First ShipSet
 
It's a great set. I like the colours and the race portrait in particular.

I have to say your worldship looks more "ship" than "world." It does look very very cool though. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Val December 14th, 2001 09:13 PM

Re: Opinions on My First ShipSet
 
Thanks!

Yeah, I wasn't sure about the "WorldShip" either, but in our Bab5 mod we are using the Worldship catagory as a WorldKiller sized ship (like a Vorlon Planet Killer or Shadow Death Cloud), so I decided to go for more of a 'ship' look. I might change it over to more of a giant starbase though.

geoschmo December 14th, 2001 09:31 PM

Re: Opinions on My First ShipSet
 
Val, your worldship is fine. That is a loose categorization based on size for the Neo-Standard. You don't have to make it look like a planetoid if you don't want to. There is only some many things you can do with a sphere anyway. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I like the way you put the smaller ship in view on the Worldships pic. Gives it a sense of scale. What ship is that though? I couldn't find it in any of the other images.

Geoschmo

Val December 14th, 2001 11:24 PM

Re: Opinions on My First ShipSet
 
The other ship is actually a Heavy Carrier. I used the same ship for scale in a few of the other pics as well.

Val December 15th, 2001 02:19 AM

Re: Opinions on My First ShipSet
 
I have a basic AI setup now as well. Not sure how spectacular it is, but I will continue to work on it. I would like to add more designs after I get a better handle on that. I also added design names in a file called Shadri.txt (amazingly enough).

Shadri.zip

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Hotfoot December 15th, 2001 09:47 AM

Re: Opinions on My First ShipSet
 
Wow, I just had a look at DoGA, and I'm amazed. I've been playing with it since Last night. I can't wait to make a shipset with it. I'm already chomping at the bit for L3, and I haven't even bought L2 yet (much less mastered it). http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Life in space just got a whole lot more crowded. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Very nice shipset by the way. I look forward to using it in SEIV Gold.

-Hotfoot
"Weapon of choice"

Val December 18th, 2001 03:32 PM

Re: Opinions on My First ShipSet
 
Made minor changes to Shadri_AI_General and added EMP files. This is just an update - no pic files http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Posted above.

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Val December 20th, 2001 08:01 PM

Re: Opinions on My First ShipSet
 
12-26-01: Updated and fixed AI errors.

Shadri for SEIV_Gold

Shadri_Gold.zip

I also fixed the update file and added:
Speech File
Construction Facility File (based off of Mephisto's)
Construction Vehicle File (Used Mephisto's for now)
Design Creation File
Planet Types File

Shadri1.49_Update.zip

Feedback is most welcome http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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