Equip against Mandeha
 

Hi.

I need equipment to my Rudra, she must fight against 1 or 2 Mandehas, i have constr 8.

Thnks

Re: Equip against Mandeha
 

I wonder what the effects of Solar Brilliance (from that piece of the sun artifact) would do to their darkness aura.
What are your paths?

Re: Equip against Mandeha
 

It is literally impossible to answer your question without more info. are the mandeha alone, what gear do they have, what kind of scripts have you seen, are your rudra going in alone?

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She its not alone. Have 40-50 Kala-Mukha Warriors+ 25 Soulles, and some light Archers.

I script my Rudras with Soul Vortes+Phoenix Pyre+Attack flyers, but the Mandehas have some aura (chill?), and the Rudra always die.
I put equip in my Rudras: Shield of Gleaming Gold, Frost Band, Flambeu, Hydra Skin Armor, Boots of Messenger and Antimagic Amulet.

My Rudras its not alone too. But i only have Bandar Warriors and Light Archer, and with the Darkness they die faster.

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Solar brilliance cancels the darkness aura (This also cancels their dark power stat boosts, I don't know if they get a malus if solar brilliance is active, but I doubt it). The Mandeha have a sleep aura. iirc you cannot cancel this, so get as much reinvig as you can. It only does fatigue damage.

Get some demon bells and cleansing water spammers to get rid of the support troops.

General, how to beat SC X advice:
- Try to go for the resistance they are missing. (In this case, the -100% fr means they almost always miss some sort of defence).
- They are large, so they are usually priority targets. Blood has a lot of good anti SC spells. Else, freeze, blind, or incinerate them.
- If they have all resistances, they usually lack combat skills, get a flying anti-sc sc of your own to beat them up.
- If they are demons, get weapons that do more damage vs demons.

Personally I would beat him this way (if the mandeha is kitted and used like I think it is):
- Get a caster to cancel the darkness, by casting solar brilliance.
- Get some demon bells, some cleansing water spammers and cast stuff like heat from hell and other fire spells. (lankan demons have a fire malus).
- Have one
- Ignore the Mandeha. He will rout as soon as the support troops are dead.
- Teleport rudra on his possible retreat provinces.

Of course, this needs one thing, you need to be able to predict which province he is going to attack next, or you need his army to stay still.

Or, if it is a combat mandeha.
- Gear some rudra to be able to defeat the support troops.
- Gear some Yaksha earth randoms to cast petrify.
- Beat the troops to a pulp, walk over to the immobilized mandeha, beat the immobilized mandeha to a pulp.

Even better, combine the two methods above. And always add one s2 caster to horror mark the Mandeha. Eventually the horrors will take care of your problems.

As you probably play bandar log you should have little problems, you have all the magical paths except blood. :D

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Charm.

Get a eye and a rune smasher...

o.O

Re: Equip against Mandeha
 

this thread sounds familiar to game I am involved in.

For me the best way to combat any demons,being Mandehas or other, has been to use demon cleansing plus rigor mortis. It seems the fatigue effect of rigor mortis is doubled, and in a very short time all demon creatures become unconcious.

I have been able to destroy an army of 4 Mandehas this way with not that amusing mages. Just have to cast undeade constantly until they become exhausted, and then the battle is pretty much over.

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Mandehas are H3. They can deal with undead pretty easily. Assuming they're wearing some sort of reinvigorating device (which shouldn't be hard, as nature magic is one of Lanka's paths), four of them would be able to mop up those undead and then take a bite out of the mages summoning them.

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brxbrx, it al depends on how your enemy has scripted them. Attack closest mandeha die vs undead spam as described above.

Demon cleansing is a great tip btw. I always forget that spell...

Assuming equal resources, the player who is able to react on the scripts of the other will always win.

Re: Equip against Mandeha
 

The thing is that with demon cleasing+rigor mortis the Mandeha gets an average of 10 fatigue points per round, plus the fatigue he might get from fighting.

The Mandehas I was fighting had reinvigoration, but only about 4. They started throwing spells to power themselves (mistform,mirror image, etc), and when they got to fight they were already over 50 fatigue (with the spell casting plus the rigor mortis+demon cleansing).

They fought for about 10 turns before they passed out. Just fighting a small dead army.

Either you use most of its slots to reinvigorate (boots, items) etc, or they will get tired very fast.

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1) Your script. Soul vortex adds a crapload of fatique; after phoenix pyre you end up even more fatiqued and go down second time as well.
On paper sould vortex + phoenix pyre sounds like an ultimate combo, but it just doesnt work most of the time.
So, just script mirror image, mistform and fire shield. The two air buffs add to their durability immensely, while fire shield deals some damage when mirror image goes down eventually.

2) Your items. Mandehas are very vulnerable to fire, so fire brand is a must against them. Flamebeaus are also great, of course, but they dont deal AOE damage to undead chaff.
For armor slot, take rainbow armor. Mandehas have that sleep aura, it adds fatique if you fail a MR check; rainbow armor helps with both fatique and MR. I'd even go as far as to empower somebody if you cant forge rainbow armors already. Or maybe trade with your neighbours.

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Isn't there a crossbow that deals triple fire damage to the undead? Just Man's Cross?