The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs // Team BAD (Bbz - Bullock) WIN !!
 

After several "classic" games i'd like to give a try to a team fight. Since we are lucky enough to get a lot of newcomers i think this type of game could allow some people to play together while they couldn't in any other type of game due to difference of level/xp between them.

I think also it's a best way for noobies to learn the game watching the good player (and maybe intermediate ^^)while still in a fun and fair game.

So they would be 3 teams as the title suggest:

1 good player
2 Intermediates
4 noobs

Which means at this point it is a 7 players games. However if the idea is meeting some success we can increase the number of players. (or make 2 teams of intermediate/noob/pro)

Concerning the mods i'm planning to set CBM & prolly nothing more since it's a noob player friendly game.

I'm also considering any suggestion about the rules that must be applied. I think it could be fair to forbid any Diplo between the intermediates & the good for example.

Before giving some more accurate settings for the game (maps, ressources income...) i want to see how popular the idea is, so join first ! :)

Any suggestion to improve the theme is appreciated.


Gamelink: http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo....=Good_bad_ugly

Map: Aran
Mod: CBM 1.92 / Streamers and standards / Multi Era mod.
http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...?Number=611021
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=39989

Indi 7
Gems income 60
HoF 15
Others at default.

Turn length: 30h then 48h later on.
Diplo: Everything is allowed.
Victory condition : Last team standing or a consensus on who is the winner.

Players:

Da Good:
-Nosantee / MA Arcoscephale

Da Good 2:
-Excist / EA Hinnom

Intermediates:
-Bullock / LA Abysia
-bbz / EA Fomoria

Noobs:
-Samoht / EA Niefelheim
-Legendary League / LA Ulm
-Vangard / EA Caelum

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

I would be interested to join!
Despite my postcount and join date I am still a noob. Got wiped soon in every game. About 3 played. Never came to forging or sweet magic. :)

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

I'd be interested, but I'd love to play as EA Fomoria.Since I got some free time on my hands and I'd love to give those giants a try (And the newest CBM which you plan to use anyways:))
I also love team play so I really like the idea of a team game. I'd rate myself as a mixture of intermediate and noob, Ive had 4 games so far so you decide which one I am.:)

Although i think it will be a bit unfair to have a game 2v1 or 4v1 even if the one is an expert vs 4 noobs the sheer numbers are overwhelming I think. What would be nice though is 8 players set in teams of 2. This way you can communicate and plan on strategies together and if we can get 4 intermediate players each to team up with a noob that would be nice and good learning experience. Also there can be interesting intra-team strategies.

Thats the think if you team up 4 noobs together they wouldnt learn that much from eachother, while if you team up 1 noob and 1 intermediate/expert you can get a good play. or something like 1 noob + 1 expert vs 1 intermediate+ 1 intermediate player. That kindoff assignment would be good I think.(although I think that might change your theme quite a bit so I guess I am happy with the whole 1 v 2 v 4 thingy aswell if you want to go on with it:))

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

Well i'm listening every proposition concerning teams it may be a could idea Bbz depending on who's joining.

I will prolly make a poll to see which idea is the most popular between the propositions.


Concerning the 1V4 i think it's doable for a good player. Prolly not in the early stage of the game that why i think i would set high Indies.
Also the locations are random so the good is unlikely to face the 4 noobs at the same time.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

yea he's most likely going to be facing 1or two noob players but since there is not Diplo between intermediate and good player then he might still be attacked from every border he has. (say 2 intermediate bordering him and 2 noobs:) which is sort of worst case scenario)

The problem that I see in my suggestion is that we might have to forbid diplomacy at all if it is 2v2v2v2 game, coz then some people might get raped by 2 teams joining up on them. Also I dont think that the starting positions should be random, coz like that you can easily get 2 players from the same team starting at the nice corner together and 2 players from another team starting on the opposite sides of the map. I was more like looking at it as if you could place the teams together and they so they could arrange some attacks together or have an expansion plan together or something like that. But I dont know probably I'm getting into too much detail.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

Yeah i'm fine for any idea, it depends mostly of the people who join. And atm it doesn't seem so popular.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

I'd be interested in playing (as a n00b) with one of the Niefelheim/Jotunheim (sp?) depending on whatever era it is. But I've never played with CBM before. From all accounts it is superior to Vanilla, but is there some log that lists all of the changes made between the two?

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

Not really.
There is a PDF with the CBM crafting however.
It should be in your CBM folder.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

Cool. Either way I'm interested in this game.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

should we jsut make it 2v2v2v2 intermediate + noob game, you can count me as intermediate(lets say) and host is one aswell and we have two new people wanting to play so thats 2 teams set up. we need 4 more 2 intermediate and 2 newish and then we can start thinking about positions and team splitting.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

Regarding cbm there are some item tweaks some nation specific changes, as well as no gem generators and added late game summons. So I'd suggest you start a single player game just so that you can familiarise yourself with the changes to the nations you choose.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

Yeah i don't mind doing 2V2V2V....
Like i said it's depending on who's joining.

Come on people join our marvelous team fight :)

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

Sign me up please!

I will have to be considered a noob. I've never played in a multiplayer game before. I don't know what nation I will be, though. I think I'll pick once I know what sort of team I'm on.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

I would like to play an MP. Suppose I'd be considered a noob, given just how long it's last been since I played Dom3.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

actually we have something like 2 intermediates & 4 noobs if i'm right.

do you want to try a 2int v 4 noobs or a 3v3 ?

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

what about 2 int + 1 noob vs 4 noobs? I am somewhere semi-noob/intermediate, so It feels appropriate.:) So 1 team can be 1 intermediate(host), one semi(me), and one more new player. this should offset the early game advantage that the 4 player team has.(and it feels a bit tematic with the name Our team can be team "Good, Bad and Ugly in one" vs team "just Ugly")

Also I am happy with a 3v3 game.

Let me know what you guys think.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

3v3 sounds the most appealing to me right now, because it seems to be the one we could arrange quickest, but I'm open to anything.

But my vote is 3v3.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

I vote for 4v2 I guess. Want to see if it actually doable:)

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

that sounds good, too!

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

Could be fun :)
I'm waiting to hear from the others and maybe for some more players.

Edit: Just noticed it was my starting idea in fact ;) only the good is missing.

So don't be shy and come to apply to the role.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

OK guys so we go like this :
Intermediates:
-Bullock
-bbz

Noobs:
-Yskonyn
-Samoht
-recon124
-Legendary League

I think a 5th noob could be a good thing, but i m maybe overconfident.

I propose to let the noobs choose first their nations while intermediates pick the era.

Now for settings i'm thinking about:

Map: Aran
Indi 7
Gems income default era +10/15
HoF 15
Others at default.

Does everybody like those settings ?

There is still room for a godlike player or a noob.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

That all sounds fair, but I have never played a team game before. I was trying to think of nations that would synergize with each other well. Like you would not want two nations that each favored either cold or heat scales on the same team, but I don't even know if dominion spreads into team mates provinces. So, how does dominion spread work among team mates.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

Heat or Cold team might be a good Idea, Although It might leave you a little bit one sided(depends on the nations of course) But yea having heat/cold synnergy wont be a bad thing.Although it more depends on the dominion power you have because you can be perfectly allright with abyssia and Nifelheim next to eachother as a team as long as you build temples and preach on the borders to keep the cold/heat dominion contained in your own borders.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

Well bbz only want to play Fomoria EA, so let it be.
So era is EA, pick your nations in this pool.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

Sounds good to me. I'll be Niefelheim.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

Hmm well I'm an Intermediate player getting better by the day. Though I'm sure I can be beat by either of the Intermediates I'd be fine going it solo as the 'advanced' player (Though I'm really not that advanced hah!)

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

Thanks guys for letting me play as the big grass eating Goats:) I really wanted to try them in MP Otherwise Im not really fussed about any other settings so Im good to go:)

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

Welcome in Nosantee !
I think we are ready to go if all noobs are still there.

Considering the situation i think we will go to the classic first to pick first served.

I'll come back with a nation soon :)

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

i think i ll give another try to Ctis.
I might change my mind later on =p

Game is up :
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo....=Good_bad_ugly

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

Welp, since I'm alone I should go with one I know best.

MA Arco! But since this is EA, I guess EA Arco it is then.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

MMh it's maybe the good occasion to test the Multi age mod then :)
I don't think it will be confusing for newcomers and it could be fun.

So i register MA Arco for you.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

That would be absolutely wonderful and gives the new players many more options to try out me feels!

I don't know if there are any other newer version of single age mod though so if you're able I'd love for all of us to be given a link to the particular one you're using (if there are even more than one)

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Send pretenders in ! )
 

i'll prolly take MA Abysia in that case.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Recruiting)
 

In fact it will be my first try of this mod !
I'll have a look on the forum and bring a link.
If you have already a version of this mod in mind send it here.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Send pretenders in ! )
 

Ok i have also added streamers and standards.
There is a link for both mods in the main post.

@Legendary league & Recon124: can you allow private message plz ?

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Send pretenders in ! )
 

Yea those are the three mods ive been using to play against the AI. And I find Single age mod to be quite fun!!:) so thats great and it gives a chance to people to pick their favourite nations.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Send pretenders in ! )
 

I have a pretender ready for MA Man. I could not think of any good dominion strategy for the noob team except try not to pick any nations that favors any scales like death or heat or something that is generally bad.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Send pretenders in ! )
 

Now i'm not sure to understand your thought.

Now concerning the game we have 1 noob slot free, Yskonyn withdrawed.

and i have no news from legend league.

@recon124: concerning the PM i wasn't expecting a PM from you. But you have to go in the option and allow the reception of PM.
For some odd reason they are forbidden when you create an account.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (RECRUITING a couple of noobs)
 

recon124, the thing is, you dont need to think of it as a scales synergy between your nations. More like an overall nation synnergy. So for example if one of you has really good armies(say MA Man) the other one has really strong SCs and thugs(to teleport and raid around) then the other one has stealthy thugs so that you invade a person in 1-2 turns alltogether. And lets say the last person has good mages so he helps with forging of itmes and other stuff. That is a good synnergy.:) Do not striclty think of it as Scales synnergy since scales are most likely going to be valid only for your own dominion, and the opponents are going to preach it out.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (RECRUITING a couple of noobs)
 

We have lost 2 noobs players and other noobs seem to be drained by other noob games.

So i'm proposing those options if nobody shows up before tomorrow night:

3V2 => Nosantee goes with the 2noobs (or something like that)
or
I'm canceling this game & will create something else.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (RECRUITING a couple of noobs)
 

yea I guess Im fine with that aswell if we dont get any new players.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (RECRUITING a couple of noobs)
 

That works out I guess. Though I would like it if we could get 2 more I'll certainly work with that.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (RECRUITING a couple of noobs)
 

even getting one more should work we can form 2 teams 2 noobs+advanced and 2 interm + a noob

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (RECRUITING a couple of noobs)
 

I'm still down for whatever.

And I'll submit my pretender, Dane Cook, god of the Niefel giants, when I get home from work.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (RECRUITING a couple of noobs)
 

Bump I guess? is anything happening to this game?:)

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (RECRUITING a couple of noobs)
 

I hope so. I'd be interested in playing even if it was just the four of us. On a smaller map.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (RECRUITING a couple of noobs)
 

I'd still be interested in playing as a newbie, if theres still room.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (RECRUITING a couple of noobs)
 

Great that means that we have 3 out of the 4 noobs,
so if one more joins we are ready to go as the host wanted 1v2v4 !

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (RECRUITING a couple of noobs)
 

Great lets give a couple more days to see if we can get a last noob.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (RECRUITING a last noob)
 

If this game has not started yet, I can be your last noob.