LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Name; Blood Sacrifices (BS!)
Host: The land of Peruvian Llamas (aka Llamaserver)
Age: LA
Map: Riverlands
How Often on Turns: 36 hours quickhost to start, additional turn extensions upon request.
Number of Players: 14
Mods: CBM 1.92
Non-Standard Settings: Special Site freq. 45%; Hall of Fame entries 15; rename on; No graphs (this is removable by popular demand);
Victory Conditions: Last one standing (or whoever is willing to go on with the late game grind)
Diplomacy Policy: All trades are expected to be completed. It's just good sportsmanship. Everything else? Go nuts. Just keep in mind that breaking treaties may or may not earn you a reputation, both in game and out. You can also choose whether or not to keep treaties secret or announce them publically in the thread (or via message system). Doesn't do anything, of course, except makes betrayals known (and thus attaches a cost to breaking treaties). Coalitions against one nation are also allowed (and tbh, encouraged when necessary [again, sharing of intel]).

Also, you are allowed to pick LA Ermor or LA R'lyeh, just remember that doing so will likely make you an automatic diplomatic pariah. No one likes bordering those pop-killing dominions and all. And do be aware that you will also likely die from the micromanagement, so don't take these up if you're the faint of heart.

Also, the more thematic and IC you are for in-game and diplomatic messagings, the more awesome points you win (redeemable for absolutely nothing).

Also, what are considered exploits and really blatant cheese (free Ettins from the Atlantean City, sending 50 items to a nation who just put up Forge of the Ancients, etc.) is very much frowned upon.


Also, I personally prefer to remove score graphs from a game, because it actively rewards scouting and diplomacy versus a game where it doesn't. It being late age and scouts being abundant, it should be quite easy for everyone to maintain large scout networks. It also incentivizes the use of patrollers like Watchers to keep your army size, etc, under wraps, and of remote scouting spells like Astral Windows. It just in my opinion adds a new dynamic to the game (though I can be easily overruled if the supermajority [66%] prefer score graphs on).

Nations (14/14)
Me - LA Ulm
Anaconda - LA R'lyeh
Angry_Hominid - LA Caelum
mattyburn7 - LA Abysia
Strabo - LA Atlantis
skymoon - LA Utgard
himselfbh - LA Jomon
Immaculate - LA Patala
Keithz - LA Man
lunaje - LA Midgard
Balaskar - LA Gath
Russian_Comrade - LA T'ien C'hi
Vishniac - LA C'tis
Kungfoo - LA Marignon

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruiting]
 

Give me R'lyeh

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruiting]
 

Marignion for me please!

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruiting]
 

I'm busy and shouldn't play but don't think I can resist.

I'm all for score graphs being off. I love looking at them, but I agree. It really adds to the game to have them off.

I'll wait and see who everyone else picks and then scarf off the bottom.

ok...that's all vague. LOL. So yes I'm in. Nation unknown!

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruiting]
 

Sign me in as Atlantis, please.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruiting]
 

I'm in. LA utgard.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruiting]
 

I choose LA Jomon. Thanks~

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruiting]
 

Define Newbie? I've played about 8-10 MP games. If you'll still have me, i would join as Patala.

Also, i require first turn sets to start at 30h or even 28h instead of 24. This is because i often work 12-16h shifts and cannot submit until 11 or 12pm after submitting at like 8 the night before (27-28h differences). I can still submit every day in the early game- i just can't submit on exactly a 24h schedule.


MAPS: I don't like the start coding on Land of Legends even though the map itself is pretty cool. I find that i often start with only two neighboring provinces, neither of which provinces good resources. And if you are resource constrained for your starting troops, this can be very bad indeed.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruiting]
 

Chelms ,please

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruiting]
 

I define newbie as ~10 games or less.

That's fine.

There are a couple revised "fix" starts for Land of Legends which help fix that problem, but we can take that into account.

Any preference on the maps listed? The final map will likely determine the number of players we use. I don't want more than 12 players if we're going to use Shadowshore, but Riverlands I'd prefer to hit 14 players. I'm honestly leaning towards Riverlands this game, but Oriana is another good map (when the glaringly OP sites are removed, of course).

I'm naturally going to assume R'lyeh would prefer Oriana (due to concentration of water provinces), and Atlantis and Marignon would prefer Riverlands (due to sailing). :p

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruiting]
 

Claiming Midgard.
No graphs seems a good choice.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruiting]
 

I'm in as Abysia before all my choices get taken!

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruiting]
 

Tien Chi.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruiting]
 

I'll take Gath if there is still room

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruiting]
 

The strongest nation in the universe is still available!

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruiting]
 

Oh, you mean post-nerf Mictlan?

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruiting]
 

As a reminder to all, please enable your forum PMs for the shrapnel forums (as it makes diplomacy a heckuva lot easier and quicker to conduct; and which is essential to score graph off games [diplomacy is how you help gauge world events, and both real and perceived power levels]). The default setting for forum PMs is disabled (not sure why).

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruiting]
 

I'll take a random nation. Time to learn, I guess.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruiting]
 

Alright, decided on Riverlands as the map for this game. There's a number of lakes connected by rivers (so a water nation has great strategic mobility), which also help strategic mobility for sailing nation. There's a moderate deal of medium population plains coupled with strategic forests and mountains, and numerous strategic chokepoints.

Just an overview for those of you who haven't used the map before (neither have I).

Re: MP LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruiting] [13/14]
 

Alright, a couple questions. First, would everyone want to wait for another player, or do you guys want to lock it in here?

Second, how do you do these start point fixings? Riverlands is a pretty fun map, but I would like to make sure the starts are evenly spaced (or someone can help me do it! :p)

Since the original Riverlands map has a number of phantom provinces and false connections, the base map will be utilizing this revised version.

Re: MP LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruiting] [13/14]
 

I have two versions of the Riverlands map that I did for a game last year. They have fixed starts for either 13L+1W or 12L+1W (I think the former fits this game). I also modded the map to change the 2 province island to water provinces, otherwise the water nation is really struggling.

But I won't post the map yet until you decide if you are either having VP marked capitals, or revealing the capital locations before the game starts. As if no to both, I will just post the image file that you will need to play the game, and upload the .map file to the llamaserver for you to use (as you do not need the .map file to play games on the llamaserver). As if I do this then nobody will know where other players capitals are until you find them in game (which some players prefer). If you are revealing caps or having them marked with VP's though, then I'll just attach the map and image file to a post, as it won't make much difference if players know the cap locations pre-game in that case.

Re: MP LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruiting] [13/14]
 

I think at present, leaving out the VPs is advisable, since the goal is to promote intelligence gathering, and the sharing of intelligence. I'd like to hear everyone else's thoughts on this, however.

Re: MP LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruiting] [13/14]
 

either is fine for me.

Re: MP LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruiting] [13/14]
 

Hello!

First time here. Only 2 MP games played.

I'll be your 14th player with C'tis, please! :cool:

Re: MP LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruiting] [13/14]
 

I'd prefer to leave out VP's. Fog of War.

Re: MP LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruiting] [13/14]
 

Hey Gents,
I havent been active lately but If you would like another Id play LA C'tis. I recently got Coe3 and its been getting me thinking about playing Dom3 mp again. I have played maybe 10ish games over a 2 years ago...so Im rusty.

Re: MP LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruiting] [13/14]
 

Sorry Cerlin, you were just beaten by Vishniac. :( Some other time, eh?


As for the splitting of the map/img files and the fog of war, I'd like to hear back from more people, but thus far no one seems to have objections (and I personally favor it). Giving it another 24 hours.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruitment closed] [14/14]
 

I agree on no VP.
Less information -> More paranoia -> All senses alert -> Try to play better
(Though I might get stuck in the paranoia part :p)

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruitment closed] [14/14]
 

I would like to c a bit higher turn interval. With QH enabled, its still pretty fast, but allows a little bit more space for a player to manage his/her personal time and strips some early extension hassles. Can we consider having 36H in the beginning, and 48H no later than from turn 20?

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruitment closed] [14/14]
 

Can I request that I change to Caelum please?

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruitment closed] [14/14]
 

Does that have anything to do with "Stumble To Victory". If so join the club. Caelum put a hurting on me in my first MP game and I thought. What a fun nation to play! Just be forewarned. THey are not without their weaknesses.

Cheers and Good Luck!

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruitment closed] [14/14]
 

@ Anaconda: Absolutely!

@ Angry_Hominid: Again, absolutely! The raiding is quite good, yes, but their troops are, pound for pound, hideously terrible (size 3, high encum, fragile). However, all flying is really annoying.

Also, it means I become the biggest blood nation on the block, and I can't argue with that (better blood than Abysia and Midgard, anyways). :p

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruitment closed] [14/14]
 

Alright, since there seems to be no objections, I think we'll go with Calahan's proposal. Can we get the .image file (or is it the same as what the other Riverlands maps are)?

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruitment closed] [14/14]
 

Attached is the Image File you will need to play the game, and a Map File (random starts) that allows you to play test the map. Please please note that the .map file in the attachment has completely random starts (ie. you can literally start anywhere), and is only included for simple play testing. The .map file you are using for the actual game (which you don't need) is not this one, as the one for the game has fixed starts for 13+1.

Also please note that for those familiar with the map, I have removed the province connection between 44-28 to allow equal distance between starting locations. There should also be no nations starting on a Forest, which means your capital will not (or at least should not) get hit by the Ancient Presence event (for those who take the required scales for this to trigger).


@ LL - I will be uploading the map now to the llamaserver, and it should then be available at the bottom of the list for you to select/use. (Edit - Map is uploaded. it's at the bottom called "Riverlands - Fixed Starts for 13L + 1W")


Edit - @ All - If you find any problems with the attached map, such as missing connections or terrain errors, then please let me know (although you obviously can't report start location problems). I've tested the map this morning, and put it through considerable testing last year for the game it was originally created for. So all bugs should have been ironed out by now. But if I missed one then please let me know (although I won't really be around this weekend, so any bugs might have to wait until Monday for me to sort out. Or just live with them if they're minor)

Best of Luck with the game.


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Finally, a future note for those finding this post from the llamaserver link, and who likely want to use this map for a MP game. All that is contained here is the Image File for the map, but that is all you need to play the game on the llamaserver. So all you need to do to use the map for a llamaserver game is to select the map, and then download the Image File. That's it. No .map file is needed.

If you do want the original .map file then please PM me, and I will send it to you. But I have intentionally not included the .map file that has the 13L+1W fixed start info in the attachment, as the players in this game want to keep the starting locations hidden. (as such I obviously can't attach the actual .map file that contains that info)

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruitment closed] [14/14]
 

wait, wut?

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruitment closed] [14/14]
 

Basically just download and use the files he's given us for the map. The difference is that the map file he's given us has random starts (as opposed to the balanced, fix start we're going to be using).

I've set up the game here, so upload your pretenders!

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruitment closed] [14/14]
 

Haha yeah its exactly why I want to play them :) They look cool! One of their weaknesses in this game will be that im playing them Im sure... :p

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [upload pretenders] [14/14]
 

We are missing pretenders from Jomon and Pythium, still.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [upload pretenders] [14/14]
 

Sorry for the delay~ Jomon is ready.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [upload pretenders] [14/14]
 

Still missing a pretender from Pythium.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [upload pretenders] [14/14]
 

Yeah, this is taking an inordinately long time. Games usually get pretenders uploaded inside of 1 or 2 days. i wonder at player reliability; not to say anything about anyone but if there was another player that wanted to join but was too late- maybe we should go with him or her.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [upload pretenders] [14/14]
 

Yes, theres a point. Maybe we wanna check on him also, when last time online and stuff...

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [upload pretenders] [14/14]
 

According to his profile, he was online just 30 minutes ago.

Sent him a private message and will give him 24hrs to respond. If I don't hear anything back from him, I'll open up the last slot for another person interested in the game.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [upload pretenders] [14/14]
 

Alright, PMed him and he apparently is dropping. Opening the last slot for anyone else who wants to jump in.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [upload pretenders] [13/14, 1 more slot le
 

Oh sweet! I missed initial signups while waiting for my account to be authorized.

In on LA Marignon.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [upload pretenders] [13/14, 1 more slot le
 

Sorry for wasting your time guys, my fiance's sister's wedding was this weekend (thankfully I was there and saved the day!) and I'm in for another one just as crazy with term projects etc, so I withdrew.

Happy murdering!

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [upload pretenders] [13/14, 1 more slot le
 

Awesome! Submit pretender and lets get this train-wreck rolling.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [upload pretenders] [13/14, 1 more slot le
 

Soon as I get home :D

Pity there's no iPhone port for dom3... could kill what little productivity remains in my day.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [upload pretenders] [14/14]
 

Damn, here I was thinking I was gonna get a monopoly on blood summons.

:mad::o:p:D

Submit your pretender, and I'll get the game rolling.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [upload pretenders] [14/14]
 

It's a race to Belphegor!

Pretender's up.