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Stagger Lee May 20th, 2012 10:44 PM

Bogus nabbing
 
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I didn't want to hijack a game thread with this. The game was Deadhouse Gates, map was World of Warhammer. The file is not a zip, simply rename it .trn

You will need the map and mod from the game to view the turn. I misremembered how the mages died, but I got 3 of 'em to join me. Anybody ever get all 5?

Bwaha May 21st, 2012 12:11 AM

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Yeah, and the script fire mages is a fine one...

:up:

llamabeast May 21st, 2012 08:26 AM

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Note to new players who may be reading this: Copying the orders of Bogus and his companions and giving them to other units is almost universally regarded as an unacceptable exploit in multiplayer games.

Gandalf Parker May 21st, 2012 08:38 AM

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It is easy to create a map you can load which would give you all 5 members of the Bogus Adventurers Group if you are interested.

There is a long and interesting history attached to Bogus and his group which goes back farther than Illwinter itself.

Stagger Lee May 21st, 2012 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by llamabeast (Post 804924)
Note to new players who may be reading this: Copying the orders of Bogus and his companions and giving them to other units is almost universally regarded as an unacceptable exploit in multiplayer games.

Which I did not do, but I did leave the orders intact on the Dark Knight (attack commanders), and the Troll Archer (fire mages). I believe that is accepted, unless I'm mistaken.

Bwaha May 21st, 2012 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by llamabeast (Post 804924)
Note to new players who may be reading this: Copying the orders of Bogus and his companions and giving them to other units is almost universally regarded as an unacceptable exploit in multiplayer games.

Yeah, but where people agree that it's okay...

Jeeze, you can hellbind heart or charm those commanders that have the commands...

All's fair in love or war... :D

Gandalf Parker May 21st, 2012 08:03 PM

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reference the Official Exploits List
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=44768

Stagger Lee May 21st, 2012 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker (Post 804979)
reference the Official Exploits List
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=44768

Wow! Reading that thread I realized ... a lot of people have been banned from here. :mad:

Bwaha May 21st, 2012 10:38 PM

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Yeah some people take it way too seriously...

It's a game. Have fun... :D

llamabeast May 22nd, 2012 05:50 AM

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Yes, many of the most productive members of the community were banned in a bit of a Shrapnel PR debacle a couple of years ago. It was extremely frustrating. That's the reason for the existence of the excellent dom3mods forum: http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?act=idx

Admiral_Aorta May 22nd, 2012 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bwaha (Post 804984)
Yeah some people take it way too seriously...

It's a game. Have fun... :D

Sadly it was the malevolent overlords of this very forum who took things too seriously.

Bwaha May 23rd, 2012 03:28 PM

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Trollman is a friggen monster and should be killed at the birth...

Don't let him grow...

EVER...

Admiral_Aorta May 23rd, 2012 05:57 PM

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what does that even mean

Bwaha May 23rd, 2012 06:35 PM

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Banned user, still around...
Hangs with doc. P, Also K.

Stagger Lee May 23rd, 2012 07:07 PM

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I don't think Frank was ever banned. He just took his toys and went home.

Gandalf Parker May 23rd, 2012 07:19 PM

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Seems that most of them did. Most of the bans were fairly voluntary.
But it created two perfectly happy forums out of it.

Stagger Lee May 23rd, 2012 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker (Post 805125)
Seems that most of them did. Most of the bans were fairly voluntary.
But it created two perfectly happy forums out of it.

Now this B.S. can't go unchallenged.

Seems most of them did what?

Assuming you're referring to the night of the long knives, bans were voluntary only if by that you mean they spoke their minds about something they felt strongly about knowing that the mods would probably overreact. And I was talking about the link you posted, Gandalf. Tollund and Ink were not connected to that, so what are you talking about?

And happy? This place is just sad, and the mood over there is very Sombre.

Gandalf Parker May 23rd, 2012 08:46 PM

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I guess its a definition thing.
If you are in a conversation with the people who own the forum, and asked to comply, and your reaction is no... then in my mind thats volunteering. :) But there were a few who were banned with no conversation.

Sorry if you are unhappy here. I obviously havent been around much either. But then, we arent the ones to make that judgement.

Oh and I love the reference to the other forum being very Sombre. It is very Sombre, altho not at all sombre of course

Stagger Lee May 24th, 2012 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker (Post 805130)
I guess its a definition thing.
If you are in a conversation with the people who own the forum, and asked to comply, and your reaction is no... then in my mind thats volunteering. :) But there were a few who were banned with no conversation.

Sorry if you are unhappy here. I obviously havent been around much either. But then, we arent the ones to make that judgement.

Oh and I love the reference to the other forum being very Sombre. It is very Sombre, altho not at all sombre of course

This. You spread falsehoods and stick smiley faces next to them. A definition thing? No.

Now - this thread was started to show someone that I did recruit three of the Bogus group, and that the three were Bogus, the Troll Archer, and the Dark Knight. Your first post was on topic and almost informative (a link would have been actually informative). If you wish to push your version of history, please open your own thread and stop trolling mine.

Admiral_Aorta May 24th, 2012 01:20 AM

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If you are in a conversation with the people who own the forum, and asked to comply, and your reaction is no... then in my mind thats volunteering.
shrapnel is very similar to an authoritarian regime, where any dissent from the party line is violently suppressed.

Gandalf Parker May 24th, 2012 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Admiral_Aorta (Post 805142)
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If you are in a conversation with the people who own the forum, and asked to comply, and your reaction is no... then in my mind thats volunteering.
shrapnel is very similar to an authoritarian regime, where any dissent from the party line is violently suppressed.

Or its very similar to a corporation that creates a forum on the Internet for a specific purpose. I have never doubted the similarity between the two. Any effort to do one without the other is just an exercise in stress. On the other hand, at least we get that subject covered in the "Forum Rules" a link which appears at the top of this and every page on the forum.

@Stagger_Lee:
I apologize for any posts I made which took your thread. Please any "moderator" delete my posts which took this thread off of its topic. I can see that my posts were blatantly biased worded, highly inflammatory, and well outside of the community expectations of the forum owners.

Gandalf Parker May 24th, 2012 08:01 AM

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But yes, back on track... a link to which? A map to own and play with all of the adventurer group?
(I will work on a quicky)

Or the history of Bogus which I do find kindof interesting.
There are some public links about it.

http://www.illwinter.com/oldnews.html
5th May 2001 - The Illwinter is here
Bogus Game Design is no longer bogus and has changed name to Illwinter Game Design.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illwinter_Game_Design
Illwinter Game Design (formerly Bogus) is the name of a small software company in Sweden composed of Johan Karlsson and Kristoffer Osterman. Registered officially as a company in Sweden since September 27, 2001, Illwinter's products include three fantasy strategy games and an installer creation program for Linux.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Dominions
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Earth Dawn actually. And JK's character. Earth Dawn is a nice and fun game. You might find several references to ED in Dominions if you are observant, horrors being the most obvious one.

Powers and Perils is another old and good game that has inspired me through the development of dominions. I'm rather fond of the religious touch to magic in that game.

llamabeast May 24th, 2012 08:26 AM

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Or its very similar to a corporation that creates a forum on the Internet for a specific purpose.
Unfortunately the bannings represented a massive shoot-self-in-foot act by Shrapnel. However since I was party to the conversations I know they kind of meant well, just showed very poor judgement.

Soyweiser May 24th, 2012 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Admiral_Aorta (Post 805142)
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If you are in a conversation with the people who own the forum, and asked to comply, and your reaction is no... then in my mind thats volunteering.
shrapnel is very similar to an authoritarian regime, where any dissent from the party line is violently suppressed.

Well, you know this isn't totally true. After this incident the forums has been mostly free of any heavy handed mod involvement. (And usually, strider posting is enough, most people get the hint ;) ).


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