immortal gods
 

when they die withing dominion and come back, do they lose magic paths?

when they die outside dominion and are summoned(call god) do they then lost magic paths?

how long does in take for immortals to get rid of afflictions?

anybody have any luck with the "immortal pretender" strat?

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Units that come back with immortality don't lose magic paths. Immortal pretenders that die for real and are called back lose paths like a non immortal god would. Not sure how long it takes for immortals to recover afllictions, but I think there's a greater chnace of it happening when they come back to life.

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Master lich is OK as almost-rainbow with high domscore. Phoenix is pure fun with his built-in Phoenix pyre.

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It's not really a question of "how long" for affliction recovery since it's not a static number.

If I recall properly there is a priority order for afflictions, and each has a certain percentage chance of being healed when you have a successful healing attempt. If the first affliction on your list doesn't heal the next one on the list will get a check, and so on down the list until you run out of afflictions to check or you have something heal successfully.

I believe immortals have a 100% heal chance each turn, but stuff like arco priestesses and fairy queens have a lesser shot at it, which then only gets you a CHANCE to try to heal your affliction. IIRC Never-healing wound only has a 10% chance to be healed by a successful healing attempt (It's the lowest chance wound), so if you have a 20-skill healer you only really have a 2% chance each turn for it to be healed successfully if it's your last affliction.

Hope that helps.

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I was under the impression that my Arco healers (and others) had never healed any "never healing wounds", and that "never healing" implied "never healable" too --- but perhaps your percentages explain.

Also, as I understand it, if an affliction arises as a result of Old Age, it is unhealable (possibly Chalice aside).

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Chalice and gift of health get around old-age and undead status.

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Sort of back on topic, I know that empowered magic paths on immortal non-pretender commanders are lost when they die. I strongly suspect the same is true of immortal commanders. But, I don't recall ever being in that situation.

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thanks guys. i do know(from very little testing) that immortals do NOT automatically heal afflictions. if i get some time to mess around with it and find anything out, i'll let you know.

thanks again for all the help!

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Parone, immortality gets you a "free" check each turn to heal afflictions, but the actually affliction must pass its heal check to be removed iirc.

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all this is good to know. i wish i had known it BEFORE i designed my dude! perhaps i should be spending more than 4 minutes on pretender design?

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http://dom3.servegame.com/wiki/Affliction for more on afflictions. If somebody also wants to write a more in depth page about immortals (it is currently only on the abilities page, and it is a bit short). Go ahead!

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This just sparked a thought that I don't have time to test at the moment:
Immortality works like healing.
Afflictions on units with old age don't heal normally.

Do old immortals heal?

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iirc yeah they do. Not sure.

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you could test it with bogarus's deathless hero, he's the only immortal I can think of that has old age.

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in an odd statistical twist, my immortal got killed 3 times in one battle, and racked up 5 afflictions. he healed none for two turns, then 4 on the third turn.

not that this means anything.

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So does immortality. :)
EA Tien Chi has Master with the iron crutch - old-aged immortal who spreads disease in combat. :)