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Tiavals July 2nd, 2012 04:33 AM

Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 10/10 - Ongoing
 
A savage battle for supremacy! Only one can remain atop the Tower of the Elephant. Do you dare to test your mettle?

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Hello everyone. Having been away from Dom3 for quite a long time, I decided to host another multiplayer game(we'll be using Llamaserver) for newbies and intermediate players. I'm not sure where my skill level is, but I would guess it's in the intermediate area. I will probably play to the best of my skill, but use a somewhat thematic use of units and such, so this may be a somewhat ruthless game in a sense, especially with Machiavellian diplomacy.


Technically anyone is free to join, but I would prefer that people who join are fairly committed to it, not disappearing suddenly, and aren't some sort of super-players that will sweep the floor with everyone else.


Game name: Tower of the Elephant
Hosting: llamaserver.net
Era: Early
Map: The Hyborian Age
Turns: Slow(48h) - Also using Quickhost(turns will be hosted earlier if everyone has sent their turns already)
Number of Players: 8
Mods: Conceptual Balance Mod 1.92 - Ettin Fix
Diplomacy: Machiavelli

Special rules:
Score graphs off.
Everything else is default.

Players:
Tiavals - Fomoria
Jolly Roger - Tir Na Nog
mattyburn7 - Caelum
Ragnarok-X - Marverni
dark7element - Oceania
schoelle - Niefelheim
Austen - Abysia
Lumix19 - Yomi
HoleyDooley - Tien Chi
Sigil Runestone - Lanka

NOTE:
Please send your pretender gods to pretenders@llamaserver.net
Make sure the CBM 1.92 - wild ettin fix mod is active when you design your pretender god.

The email subject file must be like this: TowerOfElephant

Any and all rules can be modified if people so want. Post and explain why you want something to be different and we'll discuss about it.

If you have questions, I'll try to answer them.

PS
Someone better take Ulm Riddle/Enigma of Steel. ;)

Jolly Roger July 2nd, 2012 01:03 PM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 2/8
 
Hi Juhani,

I´ll join as Tir na aOg.

Thanks for setting up the game.

Cheers, Klaus

mattyburn7 July 2nd, 2012 01:42 PM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 2/8
 
I'll jump in as nation undecided.

Tiavals July 2nd, 2012 01:49 PM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 3/8
 
Good that you could join Klaus, and hello to you too mattyburn7. Saving the nation and choosing it strategically, eh? :)

mattyburn7 July 2nd, 2012 02:50 PM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 3/8
 
I'm a hack! LOL. Not sure if I want to play one from before or try my hand with something new. Hopefully by process of elimination others will choose for me! LOL

Ragnarok-X July 2nd, 2012 02:58 PM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 3/8
 
Im in as Maverni. Thanks.

dark7element July 2nd, 2012 03:18 PM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 3/8
 
Good to see a new game starting! I'm a relative newb and I've been waiting to get in on a promising game for some time.

Sign me up for Oceania.

schoelle July 2nd, 2012 03:35 PM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 3/8
 
I would like to join ... undecided for a nation.

schoelle July 2nd, 2012 04:44 PM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 3/8
 
Ok - make that Niefelheim ... :-)

Tiavals July 2nd, 2012 05:08 PM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 6/8
 
Great, hello to the new people. Send your pretenders in when you decide on them, you're all approved!

If you don't know how llamaserver works, ask and I shall explain! Although there should be good instructions in the stickies in this forum, I believe, or perhaps the site itself.

Austen July 2nd, 2012 05:57 PM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 6/8
 
I've been wanting to play EA Abysia and this looks to be my chance! Sign me up! :)

mattyburn7 July 2nd, 2012 10:19 PM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 6/8
 
I'll go in as Tien Chi

Lumix19 July 2nd, 2012 11:26 PM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 6/8
 
I would like to join as Yomi if that's ok. Thanks

HoleyDooley July 3rd, 2012 12:44 AM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 6/8
 
Bloody hell, my ole mate Rag X is in on this one. Can't pass up taking TC and joining in.

Matt you slimy scum bag.:)..your name is on the list and WILL NOT be removed.

Pick a nation don't take death scales this time bro.

OOOps looks like I might be a bit late..that makes 9.

Thanks

HD

Sigil Runestone July 3rd, 2012 01:09 AM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 6/8
 
I would be honored to enter as Lanka if the game requires another player.

Tiavals July 3rd, 2012 02:52 AM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 8/? - Need feedback from players
 
Well, it seems we're running out of space, so what I ask is this:

The people who have been already approved(all but Holeydooley and Sigil so far), what do you think, can the game take 2 more players? It's up to you. I understand if you want to keep the game small and fast.

As for other people lurking, there's no way we're going to take more than 2 extra players, so try not to post. :)

HoleyDooley July 3rd, 2012 03:15 AM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 8/? - Need feedback from players
 
If, and that is "if" the vote was in favour of adding 2 more players you might need another map...going from 15 to 12 provinces per player is very cut throat, unless that is of course the preferred style.

Tiavals July 3rd, 2012 03:41 AM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 8/? - Need feedback from players
 
You are likely correct in that. So, when you cast your opinion, say whether you would like these 2 extra players, and what map you would prefer, to remain in this one, cramped, or change to a larger.

dark7element July 3rd, 2012 04:11 AM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 8/? - Need feedback from players
 
I would be okay with adding 2 players and switching to a larger map to compensate, IF whichever map we switch to has a decent amount of underwater provinces. I am playing an underwater nation, after all.

Also, I'm sending in my pretender.

Ragnarok-X July 3rd, 2012 04:37 AM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 8/? - Need feedback from players
 
Im fine, if the games pacing does not slow down, i.e. more players more time between turns etc.

Tiavals July 3rd, 2012 04:39 AM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 8/? - Need feedback from players
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragnarok-X (Post 807625)
Im fine, if the games pacing does not slow down, i.e. more players more time between turns etc.

Well, statistically it will slow down somewhat, but it's impossible to know how much. If we're everyone in the same timezone otherwise, but the new players are in totally different ones, obviously the change is much larger than if we're already distributed well across the Earth.

dark7element July 3rd, 2012 04:43 AM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 8/? - Need feedback from players
 
Ok, I'm having a bit of a problem with the technical end of things. I can't seem to find the "savedgames" folder in my dominions3 directory where the file for my pretender should be. I see the 'battlemaps', 'doc', 'maps', and 'mods', 'rawsound' and 'tutdata' folders, but not 'savedgames' where the pretender file is supposed to be. Anyone know what the problem is?

Tiavals July 3rd, 2012 05:08 AM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 8/? - Need feedback from players
 
My guess is you haven't created your pretender with the separate tool for it inside the game. Launch the game, then Game Tools -> Create a Pretender God

After you're done, the game should create a folder called savedgames and there's a "newlords" folder where your god is.

Which would imply you haven't made a single normal game on your computer either, so there's no save folder.

Can't think of anything else at the moment.

Try making a filler game with something in it, then use the tool to create your god.

mattyburn7 July 3rd, 2012 06:37 AM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 8/? - Need feedback from players
 
My vote is definetly to add the 2 and go the bigger map. If Holey wants TC I'll be happy to take Caelum instead!

Anaconda July 3rd, 2012 08:02 AM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 8/? - Need feedback from players
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dark7element (Post 807628)
Ok, I'm having a bit of a problem with the technical end of things. I can't seem to find the "savedgames" folder in my dominions3 directory where the file for my pretender should be. I see the 'battlemaps', 'doc', 'maps', and 'mods', 'rawsound' and 'tutdata' folders, but not 'savedgames' where the pretender file is supposed to be. Anyone know what the problem is?

Are you playing with mac or windows?

schoelle July 3rd, 2012 08:33 AM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 8/? - Need feedback from players
 
Larger map and 2 more is fine with me. The game was marked as slow anyways.

dark7element July 3rd, 2012 11:54 AM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 8/? - Need feedback from players
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiavals (Post 807629)
My guess is you haven't created your pretender with the separate tool for it inside the game. Launch the game, then Game Tools -> Create a Pretender God

After you're done, the game should create a folder called savedgames and there's a "newlords" folder where your god is.

Which would imply you haven't made a single normal game on your computer either, so there's no save folder.

Can't think of anything else at the moment.

Try making a filler game with something in it, then use the tool to create your god.

I did create it with the game tool. And I have made several normal SP games, which save and load normally, so obviously there is a savedgames folder SOMEWHERE on my PC, I just don't know where.

If I can't fix the problem soon, I'll try an uninstall/reinstall.

fungalreason July 3rd, 2012 12:31 PM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 8/? - Need feedback from players
 
it's probably the Windows7 / Vista issue where saved games and pretenders are stored in another directory from the installation one. You shouldn't need to reinstall.

Look at the top of the second post in Edi's FAQ for more info

dark7element July 3rd, 2012 01:05 PM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 8/? - Need feedback from players
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fungalreason (Post 807663)
it's probably the Windows7 / Vista issue where saved games and pretenders are stored in another directory from the installation one. You shouldn't need to reinstall.

Look at the top of the second post in Edi's FAQ for more info

Thanks, that allowed me to find it. The previous games of D3 I played were before I upgraded to Vista, so this is the first time I've had to deal with this issue.

Austen July 3rd, 2012 04:03 PM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 8/? - Need feedback from players
 
New players are fine, but def bigger map.

Tiavals July 3rd, 2012 04:28 PM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 8/? - Need feedback from players
 
Seems like more players and a bigger map are being approved. Anyone have a suggestion for the map, or estimated provinces per player?

Sigil Runestone July 3rd, 2012 05:31 PM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 8/? - Need feedback from players
 
Thank you for allowing me to play. I have been eagerly awaiting a chance to play my first mp game, but had to watch all the slots fill up while I waited for Shrapnel to slowly approve my forum registration request. I have played maybe ten sp games, including thrwe trying to "perfect" my present Lanka build. Where may I find the Ettin fix?

I suggest 10ish provinces per player.

Good game to all!

Sigil

Austen July 3rd, 2012 06:26 PM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 8/? - Need feedback from players
 
15 provinces per player is "normal"

dark7element July 3rd, 2012 06:32 PM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 8/? - Need feedback from players
 
Hmm, if we're looking for a map with 15 provinces per player, how about Hieronica? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showp...49&postcount=1

It has 150 provinces, 19 sea. Not the most exciting or beautiful map I guess, but it looks balanced.

Sigil Runestone July 3rd, 2012 09:11 PM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 8/? - Need feedback from players
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Austen (Post 807721)
15 provinces per player is "normal"

That could explain why I always receive an AI welcome wagon by turn ten.:o

Tiavals July 4th, 2012 05:10 AM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 8/? - Need feedback from players
 
Sigil, the download link should be here: http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo....owerOfElephant

But it doesn't include the normal CBM 1.92, I think, so you'll need to find it elsewhere. Oh, and if you're unfamiliar with llamaserver, you should familiarize yourself with it.


Hieronica seems okay for a map otherwise, but I fear there may be a bunch of terrible starting positions which will result in people requesting a restart of the game.

mattyburn7 July 4th, 2012 08:22 AM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 8/? - Need feedback from players
 
Holey: I had originally taken TC, but I'm happy to take Caelum if you'd like TC (It was 50-50 choice for me and I've already gotten a non-death 3 setup this time for Caelum! LOL)

schoelle July 4th, 2012 04:03 PM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 8/? - Need feedback from players
 
So, have we now decided for a map? I would not mind playing on Urraparrand or Rhinos ...

dark7element July 4th, 2012 05:19 PM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 8/? - Need feedback from players
 
Yeah, Urraparrand is fine. Whatever gets the game going fastest.

HoleyDooley July 4th, 2012 09:37 PM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 8/? - Need feedback from players
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mattyburn7 (Post 807815)
Holey: I had originally taken TC, but I'm happy to take Caelum if you'd like TC (It was 50-50 choice for me and I've already gotten a non-death 3 setup this time for Caelum! LOL)

Thanks Matt, i would like TC....I owe you one.

HD

Sigil Runestone July 5th, 2012 12:06 AM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 8/? - Need feedback from players
 
Please let me know if I chose the wrong file to send

dark7element July 5th, 2012 12:31 AM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 8/? - Need feedback from players
 
We will probably need to resend pretenders anyway, since we're apparently going to change maps.

Tiavals July 5th, 2012 03:58 AM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 8/? - Need feedback from players
 
Okay, Map is now Urraparrand. Everyone send your pretenders in. You can see if your pretender is in from this page:

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo....owerOfElephant

mattyburn7 July 5th, 2012 06:44 AM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 8/? - Need feedback from players
 
Tiavals: Please make the change on your initial post on this thread. Mattyburn7 now has Caelum. HoleyDooley is playing Tien Chi.
Cheers!

Tiavals July 5th, 2012 10:19 AM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 10/10 - Starting soon
 
Done. Just waiting 2 pretenders, Austen's Abysia and mattyburn7s Caelum and we should be go.

mattyburn7 July 5th, 2012 10:34 AM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 10/10 - Starting soon
 
Submitting mine now.

Tiavals July 5th, 2012 12:36 PM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 10/10 - Starting soon
 
And we have begun.

mattyburn7 July 6th, 2012 08:35 AM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 10/10 - Ongoing
 
Just a note. Hosting is currently at 24H not 48H.

Tiavals July 6th, 2012 10:09 AM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 10/10 - Ongoing
 
Thanks for telling, I wouldn't have noticed otherwise.

mattyburn7 July 6th, 2012 12:17 PM

Re: Tower of the Elephant - Newbie-Intermediate 10/10 - Ongoing
 
Sigil Runestone: You need to turn on your PM. I'm going to send you a message in game. We are very close neighbors and need to discuss diplomacy. Please turn on PM then we can talk here via PM. Will be much more expedient.

Boy. I am wordy! Thanks!


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