Countering Awe & Fear?
 

I am facing a lone (AI) Pretender with Awe & Fear. (He is not undead, and I have no Death or undead anything.)

• Am I right that what I need is as much morale as possible?
• Other than the obvious (e.g. Sermon, Morale Bless), are there any spells or items to help?

Re: Countering Awe & Fear?
 

Berserk comes.to mind. The amulet of lycanthropy and berserk armor will work. Touch of madness and growing fury on the spell side.
Ssj

Re: Countering Awe & Fear?
 

Thank you, I had not thought about beserk-ness.

Reading the manual's "Berserker" ability, it says they (may) go berserk after first wound. Is that the case for the spells & items you mention, or do they make them berserk from the outset? Because if it's only after first being wounded, they may not get that far before they get routed!

Re: Countering Awe & Fear?
 

Lycan ammy is a good choice against awe SC god because unlike the wolf pelt or normal berserk attribute it auto berserks the unit, removing the need to trigger the berserk with damage. So a couple commanders with lycan ammy and dual weapon of choice with some high morale bodyguards can work.

Mindless units will also ignore the awe/fear, so battlesummoning elementals can work. Especially fire or air elementals if he lacks either of those resistances. CTing some air mages on top of awe/fear SC and spamming air elementals is a counter I used many times.

A high morale frontline with mages casting something he is vulnerable to is a good choice as well.

Re: Countering Awe & Fear?
 

If you give a character a berserker item they will have the "gone berserk" ability when combat starts. Be careful about giving them to your SCs, because they wont be able to cast spells.

As far as I know, units with the "berserker" ability only go berserk if they are wounded, or if you cast the spell "growing fury" (Thaum 5,N4). If the fear is really overwhelming, the latter is probably your best option.

Re: Countering Awe & Fear?
 

Only certain items give "gone berserk", others give the berserk attribute that needs to be triggered.

They also stack up the berserk bonus, lycan ammy + flesh eater is a pretty cheap and nice anti thug.

Re: Countering Awe & Fear?
 

Touch of madness will immediately grant the gift of berserking.

Re: Countering Awe & Fear?
 

the spell 'swarm'

Re: Countering Awe & Fear?
 

Minor thing, as awe and fear add another layer to the layers SC gods already have (high def/prot/hp probably). Try to cast spells that hold them in place.

See here for a list
http://dom3.servegame.com/wiki/Key_s...ization_Spells

While it will not counter awe it will at least make it more likely that attacks hit.

Archery also ignores awe.

Re: Countering Awe & Fear?
 

This spell butchers a lot of lone pretenders or thugs/SCs even.

Use it!

Re: Countering Awe & Fear?
 

Looks like awesome vs alone thugs with fear/awe but crap vs normal army. Will casters use it when will be a good opportunity for this spell? Or you must script and hope you catch alone thug/SC?

Re: Countering Awe & Fear?
 

Script it with defensive movement traps.

Note too that 'swarm' a the counter to high defense thugs also.

Re: Countering Awe & Fear?
 

It's pretty good during regular army combat too, as it often causes enemy archers/mages to target the dragonflies at first, and delays the front-line's advance for at least a turn. A dragonfly takes one hit to kill from a militia unit, or from a demon knight. As they're equally good blockers against everything (that hasn't got aoe) it's a really useful spell.

Re: Countering Awe & Fear?
 

Countering awe and fear? Slave collars might be what you're looking for, along with your forged weapon of choice.

Re: Countering Awe & Fear?
 

I've never found much of a use for the slave collar. It's cheap, but it feebleminds the commander, which gives combat penalties, and doesn't even prevent routing (just gives high morale). Berzerking is much better because it totally prevents routing and gives combat bonuses.