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Hey, I just discovered a way that you get get this BB to say that you have made a huge number of Posts. If you delete a post, then the tally doesn't add -1 post, it remains the same. So, you could make a dummy post and then delete it right away. The post wouldn't exist on the BB, but your total number of Posts would increase by one. Just do this as many times as you want, and you could have as many Posts as you want. Personnaly, I would never do this. I discovered it when I made an accidental double post and then deleted it.
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yeah, that would be a little shady. You probably shouldn't have said that as someone is bound to try that soon.
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my god, what if there were even MORE generals around here, and i was no longer prestigious? oh wait, im already so non-prestigious that people have voted me so low that my stars dont show up. while you are working on ways for people to get themselves promoted on this board, do you have any idea how i can get myself DEMOTED? well, short of getting myself Banned or re-registering?
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just gave you the 5 star treatment.
I guess giving a one star would be a face wash. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif |
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Puke, did you ever ck with Richard to find out why your stars don't show up???, also maybe they should add Brig Gen, Maj Gen, Lt. Gen etc, or maybe Navy ranks since SEIV is a space navy going game.....
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by mac5732:
Puke, did you ever ck with Richard to find out why your stars don't show up???, also maybe they should add Brig Gen, Maj Gen, Lt. Gen etc, or maybe Navy ranks since SEIV is a space navy going game..... just some ideas mac<hr></blockquote> There are profile settings that can control whether your stars appear and maybe whether your rank appears. I haven't looked lately. It's not all that important to me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif [ 15 January 2002: Message edited by: Baron Munchausen ]</p> |
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i did check with Richard, but never got an answer. for some reason, i think he thought i was a wiseass. my profile settings were the first thing i checked, and it has always (still is) set to make my rating publicly viewable.
Whats even WORSE is that for some godawful reason, im up to 2.95 which is rounding to three stars! i guess i will have to use explitives more #$%^ing often so that people will vote me down again. (not like it would make a difference since my rating isnt showing up) maybe they made it invisible on purpose so they would not be encouraging me. |
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>while you are working on ways for people to get themselves promoted on this board, do you have any idea how i can get myself DEMOTED?<hr></blockquote>
I was NOT working on ways for people to have self-promotions. I discovered it accidentally. I posted it so that maybe some Shrapnel tech guy will see it and figure out some way to solve it. Maybe deleting a post should lower your # of Posts by 1. Or, maybe you could be allowed to make a free post-deletion once or twice a month, so that people that need to legitimately delete a post can do so. And Puke, I'll give you a 1 star rating. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif |
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right on, Imperator. Thanks!
i dont think shrapnel has a whole lot of control over how the board handles Posts, and if they did its probably not a big priority for them. since its just some canned software from infopop, they might not have access to the code. if they do, i can imagine that writing the next 'sarge' article and publishing the next Airborne 101 scenario are a touch more significant than helping us enforce our imaginary little ranks http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif its a good idea though, maybe somebody should email the infopop guys about fixing it in the next Version of UBB. everyone and their grandmother uses this software for web Boards, im sure they would appreciate the suggestion. besides, im sure that there is a community out there somewhere, where they actually have to wory about people pulling the very trick you describe. |
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I wasn't really worried about people here doing that, I just thought people would like to know about it. The ranks don't really mean sqwuat anyways.
If I could give you more 1's, I'd do it. Hey, I just thought of a circuitous and rather dishonest way of getting your rank average lower. You could create a lot of dummy Users and have each of them rank you with a 1. Not that you, or anybody, should do that. I am just trying to come up with ways to get you that crappy ranking you deserve. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif [Edit] Apparently, somebody thinks I am a good contributor and ranked me with a 5 in the past hour or so, cause my average rank rose by 0.3. [/Edit] [ 16 January 2002: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]</p> |
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anyone who speaks such ill of me deserves a solid vote of confidence. is just good sense. hell, i voted for you. i was actually hoping to find a way to get busted back down to private or something, since my (lack of) stars never seemed to show anyway. I dont want to re-register and loose my swanky handle though.
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Its called GHOSTING. It is a practice that is despised amoung many forums admins. On one board, I had, as a Moderator, to delete 30 plus members accounts for Ghosting. If one Ghosts by accident, posting a double, then deleting it, then that is understandable. However, if it becomes habit, a sudden and swift reducting in total post count could occur.
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Sorry, I am a bit lost. Why would you want to have lots of Posts next to your name? Sure, you get called a General eventually, but the good posters get a reputation based on what they say, not how many times they open their mouth. For example, I probably have a reputation for being the person with the most Posts who still has to ask newbie questions. And there was that guy a while back who kept posting nonsense and was eventually Banned, he had lots of Posts and no one had any respect for him. It is quality, not quantity.
This whole Ghosting thing frightens me, are there really people who want to look so important that they will create fake Posts? I have not spent much time on other Boards and I know that many people have cited the high quality of this board. Are things really that bad out there? Maybe I do need to get Gold, if only to avoid the Boards of other games! |
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Saxon, I agree with everything you have said. I thought the purpose of forums such as this was for people to have discussions and share knowledge on common interests. I personally cannot believe that people are so petty minded that they resort to ghosting.
Surely the only purpose of ghosting would be to increase your number of Posts and thereby increasing your rank. Does anyone really want to be a general that much? after all, you would only end up being like Puke (NOI puke) Atrocities, is this really what you have found on other forums and BB's? |
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Why anyone would want to bloat their posting stat is beyond me. 'Course, who anyone would want to cheat on PBW is beyond me, also. In any case, as long as the member# stays visible... I'd be suspicious of, say, member #2400 having >2000 Posts after joining two weeks ago (a hypothetical example).
Aside: I want to be just like Puke unless I grow up. I just need to make my jaded cynicism come across as smartass.... Quikngruvn [ 16 January 2002: Message edited by: Quikngruvn ]</p> |
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There are alot of Forums out there that suck.
People writing insults and flames etc..... Forums where people will jump over you because your new and don't have the time and energy to sift through 10000+ Posts to look for an answer to a question. I will usually read a Forum for a month or so and then decide if I want to join it. I spent 2 months reading this site before I joined. I treat Forum's as I treat friendship circles. If it is a group of people who are considerate and think about there actions then I will opt in and see if I am accepted. If not then I do not bother with them nor there forum. And another thing. When we do job interviews. I always find out peoples handles and what forums they post to and do some searchs on the web to see what there like. As well as a search on their name. We have actually not hired a few people based on what they wrote on the net. And informed them of that decission. |
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I whole hardly agree with Tesco, I enjoy this forum more then any others that I have seen out there. Its definitly a lot (very much so) more friendly and enjoyable. I also read a forum for weeks or months before I join or even post. I found that newbies are usually ignored by most on the forums (there are a few that will talk with you or help you out or even answer you and those I appreciate and thank) but most of the time it appears, in my opinion, a good ole boys club forum, if your not in the group, your not aknowledged or very rarely. I've seen flaming on most of the Boards and this takes away from the honest discussions and the game itself. Ghosting and those who just post to get Ratings up is wide spread, at least on most forums that I have seen,
I must admit, I spend most of my time on this forum because of it and feel that everyone here is professional in their behavior and well, blush, friendly to all who partake in our discussions. I have no problem inviting any of those on this forum to my house for beer/pretzels/gaming etc. (but not all at once, my house is only so big and my %^$#%^& kitchen is still a mess) Flaming has ruined many a forum and I'm glad and happy to see that this is not the case here. D... I usually don't spout off like this, it must be the meds I'm on because of my (*%%RR^&*&^%$ kitchen) oh well, tks everyone for making this a most enjoyable place to be.. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif just some ideas mac |
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So its called ghosting, huh? This forum and the one at the SE Ladder are the only ones that I ever go to, so I don't have much experience with all of that dishonesty and flaming and such. I am pretty sure that nobody here would do this, which is why I brought it up.
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the rest of the internet really is a nasty place. part of the problem is the petty **** that people have described. flame wars, petty bickering, ghosting, juvinile hacking attempts. the other part of the problem is a direct result from the above. on 'civilized' Boards and chat Groups, people are so paranoid about flaming and all the other problems, that everyone walks on pins and needles.
its like everyone just got out of a sensitivity training class, and if someone says something even remotely cynical or negative without two preceding paragraphs qualifying the remark and indicating that they dont want to hurt anyones feelings, then everyone will jump up and accuse them of flaming, or being rude. and before you know it they have been Banned for suggesting that organic is an overpowered trait, because someone thought that an organic players feelings might get hurt. yes ladies and gentlemen, the internet sucks. you should all be very glad that this board exists, even if you do have to put up with me. all in all, i think the world would be a much healthier place if we all turned off our computers for a moment and went out for a walk to mug random strangers in the park.. now wheres my ASP baton? |
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Puke and folks, I do know what you mean about overkill niceness. In an adult board I frequent, a person was chastised for using the phrase, "Circle the Wagons" as it was a tactic used against the Native American Indians. I pointed out that the tactic goes back to the earlyest of trade caravans and even today is is used when surrounded. Needless to say, you will not be surprised to find I was sent a private warning by the moderator to watch what I say. Go Figure.
I want to thank Puke for all the helpful post he makes in the SE IV forum. < bemused grin > |
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what does 'adult board' mean?? I hope it has a different meaning in the US to what it impplies under UK parlance!!
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"adult board" refers to discussion of intimate human interaction. If I'm not doing "it", I might as well talk about it. I guess I could have / should have ommited the type of board.
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eeek!!
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My goodness, and with all the young ones on the board to, where's the censor when you need one. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif just some ideas mac |
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hey, its all fine as long as your not pretending to be a young woman. or young man, for that matter. thats another reason the internet sucks.
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by mac5732:
My goodness, and with all the young ones on the board to, where's the censor when you need one. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif <hr></blockquote> I dont know, the youth of today - I have just spent the afternoon wandering how and why the phrase 'circle the wagons' has relevance upon an 'adult' site http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif my mind is boggled http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif |
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puke, you are dead right
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Gryphin, that story is the essence of what's wrong with America. We've got everything backwards. We have forums specifically set up to freely talk about sex with total strangers, but you can't say anything that's even remotely politically incorrect. (Now I'll probably get Banned for implying that something is immoral.)
Getting back on topic, I notice that my # of Posts is almost equal to my member #. Coooooool! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif |
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Growltigga, you have a good point, what the heck, does "circle the wagons" refer to, hmmmm, don't ever remeber hearing that one before and I've been on this earth awhile now, now my curiosity is up and running every which way, I think some studious scientific research into this is called for to,ahmmm,aa,hmmm, to facilitate information for purely the most scientific of reasons of course... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif
Back to topic, I don't understand why the number of Posts means so much to some people on the Boards? Its a nice touch, along with various ranks, which only means that they have been active in that forum and gives a little boost in morale, but some people really are/get hung up on this and I mean realllly hung up. Don't understand it. I like the idea but not to the point of ghosting/etc to boost my numbers. makes no sense, oh well, maybe its my age showing http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif just some ideas mac |
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Hmm, Sociology, Defensive Tactics, and Galactic Conquest. I guess this is not too far Off Topic.
"Circle the wagons" Historically was a form of defense used against bandits / marauders and such. Used in the colloquial it means a group of people banding together to support or protect each other. In the case I was referring to, one of the participants on that board used the expression to explain the actions of the group and its response to a perceived "attack" on them. Someone else "corrected" her because that was how wagon trains of the settlers in the "American West" would defend themselves against the Indians and it might offend a Native American. Side note: The spell check in MS Word capitalized “Indians”. Go Figure. |
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Mac, it is not your age as I think I am considerably younger than you and I don't see any point in ghosting - that really has to be the most non-productive pointless pathetic time wasting exercise humanity has dreamed up since line dancing.
With regard to the research, you are right. I am still in the office (21.02 Manchester time, now been in the office for 36 hours non-stop for a deal that is completing tomorrow morning - cue pity from all forum lurkers http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ) - a lot of the time we are waiting for comments to come in from other lawyers and so far, the topic of this afternoon's chat is 'circle the wagons' and how it relates to, well, enough said. Save for a few choice and exceptionally creative (and probably anatomically impossible) comments, the finest legal minds money can buy cannot work this one out. There are now 8 of us in the office on this deal and none of us can work it out! do we tell the client this is costing him about $3000 per hour? This is bugging me but as puke said, if it isnt illegal, who cares http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif |
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Gryphin, our Posts obviously crossed and all I can say is that I am deeply scarred and shocked by your clarification.
The least you could do is made something really juicy up to get myself and Mac all suitably wound up and excited. I now have to go and see 7 other lawyers and explain to them that 'circle the wagons' was no more than a description of the defensive posture of your group's mentality - can I emphasise that some of these guys, including a senior partner who has probably not come into close contact with another human being for at least 12 years, have been pondering on this all afternoon - some of them have even been using slide rules!!! < wry grin so wide my head is threatening to end up looking like a flip top bin > mate, many thanks for making our afternoon a fair bit happier [ 17 January 2002: Message edited by: Growltigga ]</p> |
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Growltigga,
My pleasure to please, I have a lot more where they came from if you like. < bemused grin > The image a 8 British Solicters pondering an age old caravan tactic and how it could be considered "Politicaly Incorrect" in the USA. On Topic: My first "handle" here was "Sir Gryphin". This was given to me by a girlfriend, (long story and you don't want to know). I dropped the "Sir" when I noticed that several of the members here were from countries where "Sir" was more of a serious earned title. |
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Well, we knew about the age old caravan tactic and given that of the 8 of us, 2 are royal marines and 1 is an ex-paratrooper, part of the discussion was about the origins of the 'laager tactic' - the general consensus is that it developed from the germanic tribes such as the marcomani and avars who tended to be wagon-nomadic although one smart alec here considers it is chinese in origin
The rest of the discussion is based on what possible 'politically incorrect anatomically impossible' ahem 'act' could be described as a 'circling of wagons' - that discussion is ongoing and I think you have created a monster here <pause to guffaw mightily> one of the lads has just come up with a suggestion which defies belief - must go |
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Gryphin:
Growltigga, I dropped the "Sir" when I noticed that several of the members here were from countries where "Sir" was more of a serious earned title.<hr></blockquote> Oh, I don't know that that applies to England any more - I think even Bill Clinton and possibly even Wubbya Bush have been/are going to be made 'sirs' - kind of devalues the whole think - now baron, that is the title for me 'Baron Growltigga of Cheshire' - that I like the sound of BTW, one of the lads has now raised the 'circle the wagons' issue to the accountants from pricewaterhousecoopers downstairs - they are laughing so hard they need oxygen but the general consensus is that if 8 solicitors and 4 accountants can't come up with a creative description, no-one can oops, just been told the property consultant is in on it so that is 13 of us I get the feeling this will keep us going through the night, I hope you dont want royalties! |
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"The rest of the discussion is based on what possible 'politically incorrect anatomically impossible' ahem 'act' could be described as a 'circling of wagons' - that discussion is ongoing and I think you have created a monster here "
OK, I did NOT need that image! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Phoenix-D |
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< deep rolling chuckle, mirth emitting uncontrolled > I'll take some of that oxygen.
BTW: have you noticed my number of Posts? When I think of it, most likely the first group of peoples to have wagons, circled them each night. I'm trying to figure out how to use it in SE IV. The AI seems to only attack from one direction and as such the tatic is uselss |
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And reguarding creating a "Monster". I put my answer in a different thread here.
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
"The rest of the discussion is based on what possible 'politically incorrect anatomically impossible' ahem 'act' could be described as a 'circling of wagons' - that discussion is ongoing and I think you have created a monster here " OK, I did NOT need that image! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Phoenix-D<hr></blockquote> If you want an "anatomically possible" Version, just think about the old ice-breaker party-type game where everyone stands in a circle, facing clockwise (or counterclockwise, as long as everyone conforms to the decision), and then sit down on each other's laps... Or was that too graphic for y'all? |
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"Or was that too graphic for y'all?"
That wasn't the image. Excuse me while I go try to forget about it.. Phoenix-D |
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Just to bring the discussion back out of the gutter for a moment, the only other forum I posted to regularly was fine for a year or so, and then degenerated into an ugly flame-spewing beast with multiple board-crashing hacks per day, many of which ended up being blamed on either myself or my SO, mainly because we met via said forum, and the other regulars got upset and began personally attacking us. So, obviously we were deemed the only ones with a motive to crash the board. Anyway, the situation got so out of hand that eventually the forum was moved to a much more restricted setting (according to a friend of ours who continued to monitor the board from time to time). Not certain if that board still exists...
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hour 52 nice.... does that mean the N.A. People cannot take over the board for 8 hours http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
Just joking..... If you want to read up on some good circle the wagons tatics,,,,, check out the Mexican USA war,, or go watch a John Wayne movie. ANd I hope you finish up soon. |
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actually, I have calculated it and it is hour 56.25 now although my boss says it doesn't count now because I got an hour's power nap since my Last post
who are the N A people? do you mean north american? I think you lot hog the board enough dont you already given that the majority of forumites are north american types! Just joking back Mr B..... If anyone wants to read up on good wagon tactics, I suggest any good book on Germano-Roman wars - lots of good stuff about chaining wheels together, that sort of thing 2 more hours then I am going home to have a love affair with my duvet http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif |
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Power Naps? you get Power Naps? Must be a Solicitor thing.
I learned about fighting against circled wagons when my, (15mm hand painted lead solders), Celts were told by a "trusted ally", the enemey is "just around the bend". My Celts rounded the bend at full charge and took a concentrated volly that left me with one crazy berserk standing. After that incedent I studied up on the correct way to attack in that situation. I tryed the equivelent of circled wagons, (Tactical), in SE IV Last night. I was out numbered: 11 Light Crusiers with a range 5 direct fire The AI was using "Butterfly" formation. weapon. to 6 Frigates CAP SHP MISL range 8 At some point they did suround me to an extent. The advantage to me was the CSMs could reach ships on either side of the battle. The bad part is there was no place to fall back to when the LCs decided to close. I took much heavier losses than if I had used a Wall formation. [ 18 January 2002: Message edited by: Gryphin ]</p> |
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Gryphin - power naps are a common way to describe anyone asleep at their desk
We are currently thinking of a new description as someone fell asleep at their desk this morning, which was not a problem, until they decided to break wind in their sleep so violently that it went through about 4 tonal changes, Lasted about 12 seconds and was heard by pretty much all 100 people on my floor - power naps does not do that justice? I have also never seen anyone as embarassed as the chap who did this I cannot believe that you tried to simulate 'circle the wagons' (the clean Version) on SEIV - no wonder you lost You must remember the old military adage - "never engage in a direct frontal attack against an enemy equipped with efficient projectile weaponry" or as we say in England 'never enter into an arse kicking contest with a hedgehog' |
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Oh me, oh my, I have the same problem as Growltigga, I mentioned "Circle the Wagons" to some of my fellow employees, strictly in the furtherance of science research of course, and the topic spread throughout the department as the #1 topic of the day. Needless to say, numerous descriptions and suggestions, of which I dare not put into print on this board, have been put foreward, some quite interesting and most definitly different, I think some new terminology/procedure has been created in this unique area of ahh, umm, research. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif We could call this the "Gryphon Way", or "Do the Gryphon",
etc. I don't have the heart to tell them the new explanation, its the most motivation and interest I've gotten out of them for some time now, ha, ha) Growltigga as to age, I'm a young/old 54 As to topic, I quit going to a lot of Boards because of the Flaming, nastiness, etc of numbers of those there. On some all they talked about were number of Posts each had etc, If you asked a legitimate question, you were ignored, never answered, or flamed if you offered an opinion, this is not enjoyable and is a turn off to the site and sometimes even the game. That's what makes this forum so unique. Its the way one should be. just some ideas mac |
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Growltigga,
1) I know what a "marmot" is though most folks from the USA would not. 2) I always wear heavy boots before entering any arse kicking contest. 3) Not only did I try, but I will try again. Next time it will be with long range direct fire weapons on slow ships. I don't actualy believe it will work, but it will be interesting. 4) Did your equivelent of our Enviormental Protection Agency show up after the "wind breaking incident"? |
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Gryphin
funny about that, marmots are indigenous to the USA and I beleive are predominant on the Pacific West Coast - but a hedgehog is not like a marmot - hedgehogs are cute and much smaller Versions of porcupines hence the reference to effective projectile weapons I too always wear heavy boots before entering any arse kicking contest but also have all the cushions from my sofa stuffed down the back of my troUsers you keep on trying the circle the wagons bit my boy - I will be sure never to be in a situation where your new found military expertise will be of no use no EPA involvement, just a general sigh of relief that this is a no smoking building Mac, I am a very geriatric 32 - I am also sulking as the gorgeous young lawyer down the corridor (looks like Claudia Schiffer but with longer legs)has said I look like Shrek! Hurrah for the lack of flaming on this forum - do you think we can hold an induction and check people out first!? |
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Growltigga,
Over here a marmot is called a Groundhog or Woodchuck and they tend to to be everywhere, (espcialy in your vegetable garden). You may have no choice as to when you face my circled wagons. My office is so stuffy I can't even tell people I play this game. Mentioning the imaginations of your and Mac's office would get me fired. Hmm, how about "Gryphin Position", Has a ring to it. |
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[QB]Growltigga, Over here a marmot is called a Groundhog or Woodchuck and they tend to to be everywhere, (espcialy in your vegetable garden). Gryphin - do they taste nice? You may have no choice as to when you face my circled wagons. Gryphin - having seen a photo of you in your general custer hat on your website, I can assure you that any indication that your ships are forming a circle will be met by hysterical laughter My office is so stuffy I can't even tell people I play this game. Gryphin, why dont you pretend you are into toad sexing and see what that does for them Mentioning the imaginations of your and Mac's office would get me fired. Gryphin - dont blame Mac and me, you started this Hmm, how about "Gryphin Position", Has a ring to it. Gryphin, I will follow Phoenix D's lead on this, that comment has conjured up an image I really would have preferred not to take with me into the weekend http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif |
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