Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1 6/8 Players Remaining
 

This game is intended to be a entry level game. To give some guidance I would say fewer than 10 MP games is a good cutoff point. I've got no experience but I'm sure that human players can't be much harder than AIs.

Players 10, Hosted on Llamaserver
Map: Cradle of Dominion

CBM 1.94
Assimilation 1.1 (needs patching for EA but otherwise fine)
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showt...t=assimilation

Proposed Rules:
Research: Standard
Gold: 400
Starting provinces: 1
Sites: 75
Hosting: Every 24 hours for 21 turns, then votes can be called for a change
All others' standard.

Diplomacy: Trades binding. Doubtlessly word shall reach every tavern that a pretender has dishonored him/herself by breaking a treaty (that is I or the admin will message everyone about it).

Assimilation mod allows the recruitment of some flavor units (but never elite) from the capitals of conquered nations.

All standard exploits banned: Bogarus orders, autospawn locking forts, filling labs, pining armies with retreating scouts.

All nations free.

Players (6/8)
American Foreign Policy: Abysia
Ossa: Marignon
Tivavals: Agartha
Hereward: Vanheim
Ossa: Ulm
Sluagh: Ermor
Krpeter: Bandar Log
Googly1: Mictlan

Re: Beginner, Middle Age, Cradle of Dominion 1/10 Sign up CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.
 

I would like to join with the Coming of the Capricorns: Oceania.

Havent played an underwater nation yet, time to give it a try. :cool:

Re: Beginner, Middle Age, Cradle of Dominion 1/10 Sign up CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.
 

I'd like to join with Marignon.

Re: Beginner, Middle Age, Cradle of Dominion 1/10 Sign up CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.
 

Agartha for me, if I can join. I haven't actually finished 10 multiplayer games, but I've started roughly that amount. :)

Re: Beginner, Middle Age, Cradle of Dominion 4/10 Sign up CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.
 

Hail, I submit myself with Vanheim. First real MP game.

Re: Beginner, Middle Age, Cradle of Dominion 5/10 Sign up CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.
 

ill take ulm. been in 5 mp or so. been owned in each and every one of them

Re: Beginner, Middle Age, Cradle of Dominion 5/10 Sign up CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.
 

Seeing as we have both Marignon and Oceania playing, I assume we're in MA.

I've played half a dozen MP games, but I suck. I have a strategy for Bandar Log I'd like to try. But what I really need is an anti-SC strategy. How do you take out an SC who buffs himself in the back for the first 5 turns, making it impossible for you to stellar cascade him?

Re: Beginner, Middle Age, Cradle of Dominion 5/10 Sign up CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.
 

krpeters, im with you. im almost helpless vs SC.

our host, however, has some good tips vs minor thugs

Re: Beginner, Middle Age, Cradle of Dominion 5/10 Sign up CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.
 

Use flying troops that attack him before he can buff himself(provided he doesn't have bodyguards). That way he must melee and can't cast.

Also, using thugs is good too, if he's geared against normal dudes. Mistform and etherealness are useless against magic weapons, and armor is useless against armor negating and piercing weapons. Get multiple attacks if possible to lower defense, or attack upgrade items.

As for spells, immobilization and such spells work well with thugs, since it lowers defence, which is the biggest problem for thugs against SCs.

If you feel lucky, you can use those insta-kill crossbows and armor negating crossbows and so on.

All in all, magic items is the way to go, I think.

Then again, I've never truly faced any SCs in a game, this is just extrapolation. :P

Re: Beginner, Middle Age, Cradle of Dominion 5/10 Sign up CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.
 

Let's see Berserker pelt: 5 nature gems that can be forged by indies

Dual weld AP/affliction weapons : 10 earth gems/10 virgins, forged by most low level guys or indie earth mages.

A mounted/large chassis: 50-100g

PD/party: 150g-250g

Add in a load of small guys to swarm the SC and take hits from your thug and you can kill most early-mid level guys this way.
Feel free to tweak it with more thugs/better equipped ones or w/e.
A bonus if the swarm is summoned since it won't affect the thug's unit morale, but then you'd have to bring support units. Ideally you get swarm which costs 1N to cast at ALT LVL 4, doable by any indy mage: 20 little buggers to take hits and bring down DEF.

Total cost: 5 earth gems + 10 variety gems, and 200-300g
Doable for any nation even with indies for a party(PD if you prefer), disposable and it could be re-equipped as a raiding party.



Tag team of 2x2 scouts with piercers and vine bows (fire bolas/bane fire crossbows if no nature). 2 vines to immobilize and 2 piercers to kill. You can have them with your army or hidden for a nasty surprise and all it requires is level 2 in cons. Upgrade it into mid game with ethereal crossbow for an additional 10 gems(vision's foe for air if astral's not available) from cons 4 and eyes of aiming.

That's right, stealthy teams of scouts that are impossible to target individually in your PD crowds. Paranoia much?

Total cost: 80g,10 nature gems ,and 10 variety gems. (+10 astral mid game)

Scalable throughout the game, requires no castle recruits and can be mass produced on the fly. Fold them back into your army as elephant/Calvary killers after your done.


Note the emphasis on reaction time and nature gems/mages. Something everyone has that can be produced on the fly as opposed to ad hoc responses that require time and money to setup.

An early to mid game SC is usually fully decked out at the cost of 5-10 gems per slot and considerable recruiting/summoning cost. That's roughly 50 gems worth of equipment they have to construct with 7 mage turns and get to the front. That's a few hundred gold, dozens of research pts, and upkeep they could be using elsewhere while you create a counter in a single turn for much less.

By late game I expect you to have your own counter SCs or be dead.

Re: Beginner, Middle Age, Cradle of Dominion 5/10 Sign up CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.
 

Hey, I'd like to claim Ermor.

Currently the game I'm hosting is my first MP game, so colour this my second. I have no life, so I should be able to play both games with equal love and affection.

Re: Beginner, Middle Age, Cradle of Dominion 5/10 Sign up CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.
 

Did krpeters volunteer with bandar? The wording of the post is a bit ambiguous but I thought they had put themselves forward...

Re: Beginner, Middle Age, Cradle of Dominion 7/10 Sign up CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.
 

Until they say something along the lines of I'm in their OP are considered to be questions in the wrong place.

Re: Beginner, Middle Age, Cradle of Dominion 7/10 Sign up CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.
 

Hmmm, so go after SCs with cheaper thugs... that's a possibility I'll have to try.

Anyway, sign me up for Bandar Log, let's see what these monkeys can do :)

Re: Beginner, Middle Age, Cradle of Dominion 8/10 Sign up CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.
 

So... is there any hope of getting this game going? Kinda quiet at the moment!

Re: Beginner, Middle Age, Cradle of Dominion 8/10 Sign up CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.
 

i can't even get the mods installed. so more time is better for me. have a specialist(my brother) coming tues. so i can't start till then anyway. have spent some very frustrating time with it. do i have to uninstall 1.92 to get the game to recognize 1.94? that would seem counter intuitive

Re: Beginner, Middle Age, Cradle of Dominion 8/10 Sign up CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.
 

It's best just to wipe out CBM 1.92, but I have it installed alongside 1.94 and so far so good. And yes I will get it started, I don't mind 8 ppl.

The game will be called Middle Age Crisis, feel free to submit we'll start when they are all submitted.

Re: Beginner, Middle Age, Cradle of Dominion 8/10 Sign up CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.
 

parone, installing mods should be easy, unless something strange is going on.

A short guide:
1. Download the mods you want.
2. Put them to dominions3/mods/
3. Unpack them, if they are zipped. (They should NOT be in their own folders, but on the base folder, for example dominions3/mods/CB1.94.dm, NOT dominions3/mods/CB1.94/CB1.94.dm)
4. Star the game.
5. Once inside, go to Preferences, then to Mod Preferences. Then Enable the mods you want used(1.94) and disable the others.

If you have done all this and it doesn't work, then something bizarre is going on.

Re: Beginner, Middle Age, Cradle of Dominion 8/10 Sign up CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.
 

tivals, thanks. yes indeed, something odd is going on. and seems to go on every time i try to install a mod. sometimes my bro can fix it, sometimes he can't. we'll give it a go tommorrow

Re: Submit Pretenders, Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1
 

Hi I would like to play as Mictalan. I have played 4 mp games so far..

Re: Submit Pretenders, Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1
 

i beleive my brother has me set up. thank god he is a computer professional. should be able to submit this pm

Re: Submit Pretenders, Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1
 

crap. how do i send in my pretender again? i can't remmember. it really has been a long time.

Re: Submit Pretenders, Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1
 

Check the sticky section for information on playing/making games. A brief answer, though, is that you go to llamaserver.net (I think), find the game name, then set the subject of your email to pretenders@llamaserver.net as whatever the name of the game is.

After that you send your pretender file (located in saves, newlords) as an attachment.

Re: Submit Pretenders, Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1
 

Re: Submit Pretenders, Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1
 

thanks for the help boys. i think im good to go.

did we ever decide on graphs on/off? i vote for off, myself.

good luck all

Re: Submit Pretenders, Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1
 

Going to vote for keeping graphs, as they add a neat dimension to the game, and plotting, and ego, and therein and theresuch.

Re: Submit Pretenders, Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1
 

I personally prefer no graphs, that way scouting and communication (or deceit) pays off more

Re: Submit Pretenders, Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1
 

hey kitty

are you minor kitty, or american foreign policy? also, are you pythium, or abysia?

Re: Submit Pretenders, Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1
 

Actually, I'm going to agree with you. I haven't made scouting a priority in the past, and wouldn't be adversed to trying that out.

Re: Submit Pretenders, Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1
 

Minor Kitty, excuse the AFP name. Just newbness in thinking that my in-game name was supposed to be listed. Also in accordance with the theme of American Foreign Policy, I'm the fiery Abysia,

Anyways we are just missing Galahad: Oceania. But 8 is sufficient to start with

Re: Submit Pretenders, Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1
 

im sorry guys, but i have to pull out of the game :/ im getting busier these months and i wouldnt want to start staling or look for a sub in early mid-game... wish you happy fighting though.

Re: Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1 8/8 Players Remaining
 

Well that was bizzare. I had to rename assimilation from "Assimilation - Mid" to "Assimiliation_Mid". Do I have the right version?

Re: Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1 8/8 Players Remaining
 

BTW, a newbie tip to all: if you're the last person to go, wait 15 minutes, and you can go again.

(hint hint: Mictlan / Ulm)

Re: Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1 8/8 Players Remaining
 

boys i might need an extension. something very odd is going on with my dominions game.

Re: Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1 8/8 Players Remaining
 

krepters, did renaming it work? i have sorted out my problems, but now the game is rejecting my assimilation mod

Re: Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1 8/8 Players Remaining
 

holy crap, that weren't easy. krpeters, thanks for your post. i think renaming it did the trick. hopefully it'll be smooth sailing here on in(except for my armies getting slaughtered, but hey, im expecting that)

Re: Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1 8/8 Players Remaining
 

Well testing Abysia in SP, I've developed a new hatred for barbarians. It seems like they are the only common indie that can do serious damage (sure elephants and knights are there but they are rare and restricted to farm provinces).

Re: Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1 8/8 Players Remaining
 

hmmm. all turns in, but it didnt host...

Re: Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1 8/8 Players Remaining
 

The AI is funny. My troops come up to a pack of Icthyids, mixed net throwers and shield carriers. Guess which squad my archers decide to shoot at? Yeah, they fling all their arrows uselessly at the shielded guys and let the net guys chew up my troops.

OK, time to switch tactics for a while. I have to protect myself from the AI's stupiditly.

Re: Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1 8/8 Players Remaining
 

Just wait until you get to play with communion scripting! Hehehe.

Re: Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1 8/8 Players Remaining
 

anyone else having trouble getting their turns? i keep having to go to llamaserver and requesting resend, even though i have not gotten it yet

Re: Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1 8/8 Players Remaining
 

No trouble here; the only problem I've had is indies killing my monkeys. Elephants do a much better job :)

Re: Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1 8/8 Players Remaining
 

No trouble here either. Are the emails being sent to your spam folder? Just trying to think of which end the problem lies on.

Re: Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1 8/8 Players Remaining
 

oddly, i have received 6 turns correctly, and two never showed up. last turn came in ok. as long as i remain vigilant, i should be ok.

Re: Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1 8/8 Players Remaining
 

fire in the water?

Re: Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1 8/8 Players Remaining
 

Well isn't the purpose of pretenders to cover your weakness? A water breathing SC can do wonders.

Re: Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1 8/8 Players Remaining
 

for a war game things seem...quite peaceful

Re: Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1 8/8 Players Remaining
 

I think there is quite a high number of provinces to players, which makes people less inclined to early war. The positioning is interesting; we are quite bunched up in the northwest, whereas Ermor and Mictlan I think have a large area to themselves. The south continent I know less about, I know Abysia and Marignon are there in some configuration, and I assume Bandar is down there too, but that is guesswork.

Re: Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1 8/8 Players Remaining
 

i think your right hereward. it is unlikely there will be any quick kills in this one.

Re: Middle Age Crisis ,CBM1.94+Assimilation mod 1.1 8/8 Players Remaining
 

Agartha just staled I think, unless they submitted at the last minute?