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Scarlioni January 2nd, 2013 03:37 PM

Eater of Dreams
 
I just had something happened to me I've never had happen. An "eater of Dreams" launched a successful assassination on my Arch Devil Morgoth in my capitol. This thing is seriously bad ***! An astral horror on steroids and amphetamines. It ate Morgoth quickly even though he was kitted out (sword of swiftness, BS tower shield, BS helm, BS Full Plate, Boots of the Messanger, Pendant of Luck, and an amulet of magic resistance.) Granted he was my Ashciac Record caster so he had no combat orders and just spammed control at the Eater of Dreams.

Playing Himnon on a full size Glory of the Gods map with all the nations (all ages mod and a flag mod) on impossible. Have 9 capitols.

Last turn I did cast an Astral Corruption (641 blood slaves) and Morgoth was doing an Ashciac record. Did he fall victim to my Astral Corruption? Otherwise how else do you get an Eater of Dreams.

I've been playing this game for years now and have never seen an Eater of Dreams. Granted I play against the computer so unless I do it I rarely see it.

parone January 2nd, 2013 04:17 PM

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i don't know the answer to any of your questions, but if you have played SP this long, you should try multi.

if you are interested, pm me. i will help you. SP pales in comparison to MP.

Loren January 2nd, 2013 04:49 PM

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I don't recall an Eater of Dreams but you cast Astral Corruption and then you cast an Astral spell--that's just asking for bad things to happen to your caster.

BewareTheBarnacleGoose January 3rd, 2013 10:49 AM

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http://dom3.servegame.com/wiki/Eater_of_Dreams

Eater of Dreams is a doom horror, one of a couple of super-horrors that sometimes attack if you have a lot of horror marks. Im not sure what other factors are involved, but as Loren said, casting non-blood spells under astral corruption does risk provoking a horror attack, and the wiki says that the chance is proportional to the amount of gems used. Ashciac record uses a lot of gems, so that is probably what happened.

The only other way to see doom horrors is to wish for them specifically, or for a doom horror (to get a random one). They have a 50% chance of attacking you when you wish for them, though, and they can only be controlled for a few turns even if they don't, so you don't see too many people wishing for them.

Soyweiser January 3rd, 2013 02:38 PM

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Under Astral Corruption random horror attacks happen. I even had a pretender (without marks) get munched by a doom horror once. And he was not even casting spells at that time.

Redeyes January 3rd, 2013 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BewareTheBarnacleGoose (Post 815935)
The only other way to see doom horrors is to wish for them specifically, or for a doom horror (to get a random one). They have a 50% chance of attacking you when you wish for them, though, and they can only be controlled for a few turns even if they don't, so you don't see too many people wishing for them.

The Doom Horror that appears is random even when you wish for a specific one.

Lunaje January 3rd, 2013 06:39 PM

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I just got this beauty current turn in a game, never seen it before:

http://dom3.servegame.com/wiki/Abomi..._of_Desolation

My pretender was horror marked. A little one came some turns ago, got kicked, then big daddy knocked the door. Seems they are brothers with Eater as for the lore :P.

parone January 3rd, 2013 08:08 PM

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lunaje, while im sure this sucked in game, it is pretty cool

Nagot Gick Fel January 4th, 2013 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BewareTheBarnacleGoose (Post 815935)
The only other way to see doom horrors is to wish for them specifically

There's at least yet another one: I've had a Starspawn priest met the same Eater of Dreams on his way back from the Void, although he wasn't horror marked (not even insane at the time.)

He was richly rewarded for the encounter: +1 astral skill, and +35 insanity (insanity usually comes in much smaller increments), which once again proves that Doom Horrors are indeed... well, very special.

sansanjuan January 4th, 2013 01:08 PM

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I met all the doom horrors one game (search "spin cycle" thread). You can escape astral corruption if you have scripted returning and have pearls equipped. If you forget pearls and cast a nonblood spelll.. Welcome to hell..
ssj

Redeyes January 6th, 2013 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Nagot Gick Fel (Post 815959)
He was richly rewarded for the encounter: +1 astral skill, and +35 insanity (insanity usually comes in much smaller increments), which once again proves that Doom Horrors are indeed... well, very special.

This is one of the effects of being lost in space and time and not from encountering a doom horror.

JonBrave January 6th, 2013 05:59 PM

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I know this must be really lame, but...

I'm pretty sure I have never seen a Horror :o Have been playing SP for multiple years. Play either Impossible or Mighty, CBM & vanilla. Have had my guys occasionally horror marked, though as a responsible leader perhaps not too many. Games tend not to go too far, I've won (or lost, or lost interest), maybe that's why. (I've summoned a Horror like Eater of The Dead, but) I've never seen any of my guys "visited" by a Horror, if that is what you guys mean happens...?? Am I missing out?

sansanjuan January 7th, 2013 03:56 PM

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Jb
From memory so may be errors

Download debug mod (the one that has the "debug sensei" spell.. You can google it
Create small two player map (any) using the mod make sure the human player has an awake pretender with at least astral 1
1st turn alchemize or use a pearl to cast debug sensei spell
Next turn use the sensei to cast super wish and wish for slaves
Next turn have fun with horrors
Send lesser horror
Send horror
Wish for doom horrors
And, for random fun, cast astral corruption (may need more slaves) and then have other casters try some non blood forgings
ssj

brxbrx January 7th, 2013 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JonBrave (Post 816023)
I know this must be really lame, but...

I'm pretty sure I have never seen a Horror :o Have been playing SP for multiple years. Play either Impossible or Mighty, CBM & vanilla. Have had my guys occasionally horror marked, though as a responsible leader perhaps not too many. Games tend not to go too far, I've won (or lost, or lost interest), maybe that's why. (I've summoned a Horror like Eater of The Dead, but) I've never seen any of my guys "visited" by a Horror, if that is what you guys mean happens...?? Am I missing out?

Wow. That's hard to believe. They're bound to show up eventually, once a commander has weathered enough battles (especially SCs).
One game, I decided to start summoning and binding them, with wish.
When you wish for a doom horror, there's a fifty/fifty chance they'll join you for an indefinite period (they eventually disappear). I was blowing massive amounts of astral pearls, getting my Grigori killed a bunch (I don't remember the name of the astral Grigori. Ezekiel maybe? That was the one).
You really can't defend against one of those things.
I finally managed to score Kurgi, Slave to Unreason, and I planted him on an enemy capital. All the king's horses and all the king's men couldn't get Kurgi off that city.
This was SP. You just can't waste in-game years and hundreds of pearls on fanciful stuff like this in MP.

Nagot Gick Fel January 14th, 2013 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Redeyes (Post 816012)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nagot Gick Fel (Post 815959)
He was richly rewarded for the encounter: +1 astral skill, and +35 insanity (insanity usually comes in much smaller increments), which once again proves that Doom Horrors are indeed... well, very special.

This is one of the effects of being lost in space and time and not from encountering a doom horror.

What I meant is actually a bit different. I've seen dozens upon dozens of Starspawns lost in time and space, and the one guy who saw a Doom Horror down there is also the one who came back the most insane (by far!)

So while you're indeed correct, I still have a feeling that meeting a Doom Horror on the way back from the void changes the magnitude of the results for your Starspawn (although it could be the other way around: like too much insanity at once triggers a Doom Horror encounter.)

parone January 26th, 2013 04:42 PM

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saw my first doom horror-eater of the dead? and ive played quite a bit. killed my SC pretender with one shot.

it was funny. i lost a HUGE battle, and went from a good position in the game to a bad one. but my pretender escaped the battle. so i was like, hey, at least he is still alive.

two turns later, poof-gone.

parone January 27th, 2013 10:23 AM

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he was actually 'eater of the gods'

anyone ever kill this thing? is it possible?

bbz January 27th, 2013 10:37 AM

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Rudra maybe give it 4 dusk daggers + quickness and attack. defending against doom horrors doesnt work that well with rudra

Also mage bane on a quickened SC works but you need to hit first.

Executor January 27th, 2013 12:01 PM

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It's doable but extremely hard. It has 3 shapes (55+44+33HP) and blood vengeance that increases with each shape(0,1,2). At the very least you'll need luck, high MR, a pretty high number of HP to soak up some damage you're very likely to get and a extremely good defense value (as in 35-40) to minimize his chance to hit you, along with luck of course. I've managed to kill him once quite a while back (clam times) with an Air Queen, don't remember what equipment I used exactly but mirror image helped immensely.

He's not too tough himself. Killing him isn't the problem with only 15 defense and 15 protection. Being killed before you manage to kill him is however.

shonuf January 27th, 2013 10:29 PM

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A GoR'd eater of the dead in its last controllable form with a luck pendant and AM amulet handles him quite easily thanks to the 34 MR and 160 hp/tur0n regen.

brxbrx January 27th, 2013 11:04 PM

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Even if you do survive, you'll wind up so badly horror marked you may as well kiss that commander goodbye


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