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Gandalf Parker January 3rd, 2013 01:06 PM

Rasberry Pi
 
The progress page of Illwinters newer game "Conquest of Elysium 3" has just added these...

3rd January 2013
* --simpgfx for simple graphics (for slow computers).
* Faster and more responsive new turn generation.
* Linux: Support for Raspberry Pi ($30 computer).
* Linux: Fixed bug in ALSA shutdown and error handling.

Im expecting a backport to Dom3.

So... a credit-card sized linux computer that you can hook to a tv at work. Hmmm....
http://www.raspberrypi.org/quick-start-guide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi
http://www.raspberrypi.org/faqs

So I guess Johan got a Rasberry for xmas. Thats how we got NetBook support.

Does anyone have any experience with these? I see that the Rasberry is approaching Android compliance. I kept saying someone should buy Johan an android phone :) Maybe this is going to slide us into some real portable gaming

Soyweiser January 3rd, 2013 02:36 PM

Re: Rasberry Pi
 
FYI: Raspberry not Rasberry.

elmokki January 3rd, 2013 03:57 PM

Re: Rasberry Pi
 
Android port is probably unlikely - though I sure am not KO nor entirely sure that I am correct - since Android to my best knowledge still wants you to use Java. Since Dominions 3 for sure isn't coded in Java, it is not a simple task by any means to port it to Android.

Gandalf Parker January 3rd, 2013 04:22 PM

Re: Rasberry Pi
 
They have BASICs for Android

JonBrave January 4th, 2013 05:05 PM

Re: Rasberry Pi
 
For Dom3 (not necessarily CoE), did not we have a post in another thread stating that Dom3 was coded in C#? I must be going mad, because that seems an odd choice to include Linux...) :confused:

Gandalf Parker January 4th, 2013 05:43 PM

Re: Rasberry Pi
 
That would be a strange choice indeed.
Dominions was originally programmed on an Amiga using GFX Basic. Then ported to Linux. Various moves since then. Its now developed on Linux (Ubuntu) and I believe there is a lot of C in it. But I doubt Microsoft C#. Its a Linux game, then ported to Windows and Mac.

Turns out moot anyway.
Johan has an Android and says the screen is too small for our games. It would take a lot of rewrite

elmokki January 5th, 2013 09:37 AM

Re: Rasberry Pi
 
I believe Dominions 3 is made with C++ (or just plain C). I'm 99% sure it is not made with C# because it does definitely not require .NET libraries. I would be also baffled if it was made with Java.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker (Post 815946)
They have BASICs for Android

Which is completely irrelevant. Also it's actually still Java - the thing just converts your BASIC code to an Android application.

Quote:

Turns out moot anyway.
Johan has an Android and says the screen is too small for our games. It would take a lot of rewrite
Of course his personal Android device is what matters, but I would like to note that there are Android tables that have higher resolutions and similiar size screens as some netbooks. OUYA is also theoretically coming at some point. That said I really doubt it'd be worth porting the game to the platform even if it was easier than it probably is.

Also touch control sounds somewhat scary for a game like Dominions 3.

Gandalf Parker January 5th, 2013 11:18 AM

Re: Rasberry Pi
 
Touch Control (Windows 8) is being tested with CoE3 and apparently its quite addictive. But I think CoE3 is more mousey than Dom3 which can make a difference there.

The more I look at Raspberry (thanks Soyweiser) the more I think I could have some fun there. Playing on a really monstrous sized TV screen using air-mouse controls. And all with a computer that fits in my pocket. OK NOW I think these games REALLY need a BossKey.

Of course its around his personal android. Maybe we need to get him some other phone.

Foodstamp January 5th, 2013 11:27 PM

Re: Rasberry Pi
 
I bought a couple of these late last year. I didn't realize they did not come with power cables, so they have been sitting around collecting dust. I planned to use one for the living room TV and one as a classic console game emulator. I didn't think Dominions would run on it. When I get around to ordering the rest of the components, I will let you know how it runs.

JonBrave January 6th, 2013 05:17 PM

Re: Rasberry Pi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Foodstamp (Post 815999)
I bought a couple of these late last year. I didn't realize they did not come with power cables, ...

This thread stimulated me to go have a look. It seems like the minimal practical "starter kit" work out at US$100...

Have you thought of starting breeding from the pair? :)

Gandalf Parker January 6th, 2013 06:43 PM

Re: Rasberry Pi
 
It looks like a fun geek toy. For $30 you get all the guts of a computer that you can get creative on a case for. Tupperware, wood, an Altoids tin, the pocket of your shirt, maybe some of the really creative cases they have come out with for iPods and iPhones. Personally I like the retro looks
Retro Cases

Then I was looking at the keyboard/mouse options. Little keyboards like cell phones use, wifi, wireless, bluetooth. I especially like the ones with Air Mouse options.
USB Keyboard/Mouse

I like Linux anyway. There are a lot of fun little portable things that could plug into one of these.

Foodstamp January 6th, 2013 07:40 PM

Re: Rasberry Pi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JonBrave (Post 816022)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Foodstamp (Post 815999)
I bought a couple of these late last year. I didn't realize they did not come with power cables, ...

This thread stimulated me to go have a look. It seems like the minimal practical "starter kit" work out at US$100...

Have you thought of starting breeding from the pair? :)

That sounds about right if you need all the components.

elmokki January 7th, 2013 02:41 PM

Re: Rasberry Pi
 
There are many alternative super cheap computers available too. Like those Android sticks which I heard can be made run Ubuntu.

Gandalf Parker January 7th, 2013 03:15 PM

Re: Rasberry Pi
 
Well if anyone wants to try it, go for it. If they can speak code and ask nice in a non-insulting manner they can even get help. I saw some great conversations between Johan and various groups. One I remember was a PandoraBox group trying to get Dom3 to run on their portables.

Musrum_ March 10th, 2013 08:18 PM

Re: Rasberry Pi
 
I'm interested. I was using an Eeepc for hosting but the little fan eventually started complaining about the 24/7 workload.

I've installed the latest PiBang server edition (no DE) and I've copied all my saved games and scripts across.

Now I'm at the point where I can't get the executable to run:

zsh: exec format error: dom3_x86

and:

zsh: exec format error: dom3_amd64

I assume this will need a new compile for the ARM Architecture.

If someone is willing to help that would be fantastic.


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