Can't delete existing core formations in campaign game
 

Haven't played this game in quite a while. I used to be able to change individual units and even delete existing core formations with the 'Expand Core' button in the Unit Repair Menu. Also when changing a unit it used to be a snap to highlight/click on a diff unit and change that one too. Can't seem to do that either =/ Is this a bug with playing it on Vista or did I make a mistake when installing it in it's natural folder? Or is this a deliberate change? Just wondering =)

Re: Can't delete existing core formations in campaign game
 

"Natural folder" means what exactly?

Did you install in "program Files" lie we tell you not to do for Vista and Seven?

If so - see the "Installing under Windows vista and Seven" sticky thread.

Andy

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No, I checked it. It's not in the Program files. Any other ideas?

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Also tried generating another campaign just to test the results. My current campaign game is Israel vs. a few Mid-East countries. The one I tested was US vs RUS. Again same symptoms. Maybe it's just the way it is now with the most recent update package =(

Re: Can't delete existing core formations in campaign game
 

The only place that you can delete a core formation is in the upgrade/repair page purchase screen for new formations.

If you are trying to do it in the normal purchase screen (where you buy support troops prior to a battle) then you cannot do so there.

Andy

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Right, and that's what I'm used to. However, in the two campaigns I recently tried it wouldn't let me delete any core formations in the upgrade/repair purchase screen =( So, I guess my next question should be; Is anyone else experiencing this problem and if so, what's the fix?

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If you'd like I can frap it fairly quick, upload it to youtube and post the link to it here.

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It works as advertised on my Windows 7 laptop.

However you have Vista - which apparently had some problems with its "UAC" - Seven is supposed to be better, and you can also turn UAC off in it if desired, which Vista apparently cannot do?.

But something to do with how Vista's UAC is (mis)behaving is probably it. If there is a way to turn it off in that O/S then give that a go and see if the problem goes away.

As to why it worked before and not now - have you applied any patches and so on to Vista in the meantime or tweaked O/S parameters etc?. It's a Microsoft Operating System after all, so don't expect it to do things the same way on different days of the month:rolleyes:!

Oh - and what directory path Microsoft thinks should be "managed" (ie mangled!) post Vista can be odd. I copied some file into the c:\ root folder on seven once and then could not edit it since it had been copied from a network file folder and it had "carried across" some sort of internal flags that could not be turned off despite my efforts with the various M$ utilities. However I then discovered that if I copied it instead into say c:\zzzz then editing was allowed perfectly happily. So strange things can happen, depending on the particular path you use in Vista/Seven with UAC enabled. In other words - look at the folder your game is installed to, and maybe try changing that path. Microsoft UAC weirdness is often related to your directory path.

Andy

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Thanks, some of that's above my head, but I do understand the gist of it lol!! I should have given way more information in my opening comment, chalk that up to forum inexperience! I have SPWW2 in the same directory path C:\Shrapnel Games\The Camo Workshop\WinSPMBT and C:\Shrapnel Games\The Camo Workshop\WinSPWW2. SPWW2 works flawlessly. I can delete/change in the upgrade/repair purchase screen as normal. I ask this out of ignorance about computer specifics. If SPWW2 works ok in that path and MBT is right next to it would UAC issues still be the culprit?

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Disable UAC, it had the effect of erasing my saved games in SPMBT but didn't touch my saves in WW2. Still same problem :/ hmmmm

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Eurika!!!! Fixed it. Somehow (and don't ask me how, I have no clue) both games got installed both in the programs files and in the specific file I told them to install in C:Shrapnel Games/The Camo Workshop/SPWWII[MBT]. The shortcut on the desktop for WW2 pointed to the custom path, MBT's shortcut directed it to the one in Program Files.... yeah, no good. So I deleted everything in the Program Files path and redirected the desktop shortcut for MBT and OUILA!!! Works flawlessly. Thank you for the help and for bearing with me!!!

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That is one of the "joys" of UAC if you have your game installed in a "managed" folder - which your later post says you had, inadvertently done (Program Files being a mangled directory).

UAC tries to squirrel away some (but not all) files it thinks are user-only data under your personal profile (rather than the proper game save folders) and then attempts to link these in "virtual directories" it shows you as in the "right place" through UAC tricking explorer internally.

When you switched UAC off, then the virtual folders "linkage" to the saved files actually squirrelled away in your user profile structure (and not physically under the save games folders of SP) stopped working. (The virtual stuff does not always work properly, and some files UAC thinks are user data are game data - so patch updates can get mangled - e.g. a new OOB is put under the user profile and not overwriting the old one in the games OOB folder!:hurt:)

Your save games for that are somewhere under your user profile, most likely. So if you want them, you will have to go looking for them. Unfortunately - searching under user profiles can have some files hidden as Microsoft thinks these are system files!. Try a search for *.cmt and if that does not work then you will need to use explorer to tell Windows that your user profile is NOT system (show hidden files I think)

All perfectly good reasons to avoid UAC and mangled directories by installing to a custom folder. Not just for our game - you may have other older software (games and utilities) that can be made to work by the same trick of installing under a customised folder that UAC does not try to mess with.

Andy