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Simicro August 31st, 2013 06:50 PM

Change USMC flag to USA flag
 
Hi,

I want to change the USMC flag to USA flag.

I was thinking of finding the USMC flag and overwriting it with the USA flag.

I browsed the game folders and only found a USA flag in:

C:\Shrapnel Games\The Camo Workshop\WinSPMBT\Game Data\Pictures\Interface\Flags

DRG September 1st, 2013 07:16 AM

Re: Change USMC flag to USA flag
 
Why bother ? If you want the official flag just set up the game as the US Army then buy all the troops from the USMC OOB as "allies"

Simicro September 1st, 2013 08:57 AM

Re: Change USMC flag to USA flag
 
It's because I play Scenarios (not Battle).

Simicro September 4th, 2013 02:18 PM

Re: Change USMC flag to USA flag
 
So I guess that there is no easy way (eg: overwriting files) to replace the USMC flag by the USA Army flag when playing scenarios.

Cross September 4th, 2013 05:44 PM

Re: Change USMC flag to USA flag
 
Simicro,

The file you need to change is:

Icon0097.shp

Which can be found here:

WinSPMBT\Game Data\Graphics

The US and USMC flags are icons 13 and 14 within the Icon0097 shape file.

This post here should explain how to do it:

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=47320

Let me know if you get stuck.

The process sounds a bit complicated at first, but once you understand it, it's quite easy and should only take a couple of minutes.

Cross

Simicro September 5th, 2013 03:58 PM

Re: Change USMC flag to USA flag
 
Great! Thank you Cross. I will try and keep you informed!

Simicro September 5th, 2013 05:24 PM

Re: Change USMC flag to USA flag
 
I tried several times and finally succeeded.

However by trial and error I found that I had to stop at step#7.

Because if I go beyond step#7 the replacement of USMC Flag by USArmy flag does not work.

Cross September 6th, 2013 08:19 AM

Re: Change USMC flag to USA flag
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Simicro (Post 821836)
I tried several times and finally succeeded.

However by trial and error I found that I had to stop at step#7.

Because if I go beyond step#7 the replacement of USMC Flag by USArmy flag does not work.

Positioning icons (steps 8 - 12) can be a tricky business.

Sounds like you were fortunate that your new icons were already positioned correctly, so didn't need adjusting; which is rare, most modded icons require steps 8 - 12 be completed.

Cross

Simicro September 7th, 2013 03:03 PM

Re: Change USMC flag to USA flag
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cross (Post 821842)
Sounds like you were fortunate that your new icons were already positioned correctly, so didn't need adjusting; which is rare, most modded icons require steps 8 - 12 be completed.

Cross

Fortunate because I replaced a flag of the game by another flag of the game. I did not create any new flag :D

Simicro September 8th, 2013 04:33 AM

Re: Change USMC flag to USA flag
 
3 Attachment(s)
Please help me with one last question.

Do you know how I can change the flag on these 3 game screens.

Cross September 8th, 2013 08:39 AM

Re: Change USMC flag to USA flag
 
I believe the flag in image 1 is found in the battle.shp, in the graphics folder.

The flags in images 2 and 3 both use the icons in Icon0095.shp, also in the graphics folder. Changing the flags in Icon0095 will also change the Objective/V-Hex flags.


Cross

Simicro September 8th, 2013 08:46 AM

Re: Change USMC flag to USA flag
 
Many thanks, Cross.

Suhiir September 9th, 2013 11:13 PM

Re: Change USMC flag to USA flag
 
All I'll say is ...

HERESY

FASTBOAT TOUGH September 10th, 2013 01:39 AM

Re: Change USMC flag to USA flag
 
I whole heartily agree with Suhiir!! There's a reason we have our own service flags (Dept. of the ...). We fly here our flag above the rest then the UK, USN, USMC, and the commands own flag. These flags matter. From a game point of view if you're playing the USA or USMC then decide to use the other as an allie it would be nice to know whos who in a battle as some of the units would have different capabilities that might affect your strategy to meet your objectives. Remember even current manning in the USMC is bigger then a lot of other countries own armies or even total defense forces for some. This sounds more like "If it ain't broke don't fix it!" What's worse is that a Sailor is sticking up for a Marine!?! Obviously I need a drink of...water or something!?! :rolleyes:

Regards,
Pat

Cross September 10th, 2013 07:08 AM

Re: Change USMC flag to USA flag
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Suhiir (Post 821884)
All I'll say is ...

HERESY

Quote:

Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH (Post 821886)
I whole heartily agree with Suhiir!!

If he was changing the USMC flag to the NATO or UN flag, Suhiir would have a point.
:) You are kidding right?

Cross

Simicro September 10th, 2013 01:33 PM

Re: Change USMC flag to USA flag
 
No offense intended to anybody or military entity.

Suhiir September 13th, 2013 03:15 AM

Re: Change USMC flag to USA flag
 
No offense taken.
But, it is heresy...

There's a reason the United States rates two OOBs.
The US Army/US Air Force is a totally different entity then the USMC/US Navy.

The US Army (and it's OOB) are generally armor heavy with limited air support. The US Army is designed/intended for sustained combat operations.

The USMC (and to an extent it's OOB) is infantry heavy with much greater helo/air support (USMC/USN air work very closely together, in fact US carriers often have a USMC squadron aboard).
The USMC is designed/intended for fast/first reaction to seize/establish a forward base to allow the much bulkier/slower to react to "now" requirements US Army to get it's gear and people in place. The USMC is designed for limited duration (90 day or less) high intensity operations.

Does this mean the US Army can't react first or the USMC can't do sustained operations?
Of course not.
But, they are two separate animals. And each uses some equipment unique to it that the other doesn't even have (or in very limited quantities).

Cross September 13th, 2013 08:28 AM

Re: Change USMC flag to USA flag
 
At no point - that I'm aware of - has anyone said that the USMC should not have their own OOB.

He merely wanted to change the flag to the United States flag, for his own personal use.

Cross

Simicro September 13th, 2013 03:09 PM

Re: Change USMC flag to USA flag
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cross (Post 821918)
He merely wanted to change the flag to the United States flag, for his own personal use.

Right, for my own personal use.

gila September 13th, 2013 10:20 PM

Re: Change USMC flag to USA flag
 
Trained with a few marines fresh from basic training along with army and navy in Chanute Il. weather ops.
One thing i can say, they seemed very brainwashed,if not crazy!
But i like the corps flag and thier uniforms however:)

Suhiir September 15th, 2013 11:00 PM

Re: Change USMC flag to USA flag
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cross (Post 821918)
At no point - that I'm aware of - has anyone said that the USMC should not have their own OOB.

He merely wanted to change the flag to the United States flag, for his own personal use.

Cross

I didn't think he was suggesting any revision/deletion of the OOB.
And yes I understand he only wants to change the flag (for whatever reason).

This reminds me of the "telephone" game.
Where person #1 whispers a message to person #2 who passes it to #3 and so on.
By the time you get to person #20 you're lucky if the message bares any resemblance to the one you started with.

Cross September 16th, 2013 11:33 AM

Re: Change USMC flag to USA flag
 
If there's any confusion on thread, it's not of my making.

This thread should be closed...regardless, I'm done here.

Cross


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