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Roman April 28th, 2014 06:44 PM

As would design this map?
 
I want to design a map that appears in the picture. Is access to Sloviank west.
Any suggestions where to start?
The map would have 160 hexes wide (8 km) by 120 height (6 Km). The red box is the perimeter corresponding to the map you want to do.
I have no problem with making roads and people. I suggest that field?
The actual map has a height of 60 meters above sea level with two elevations of approximately 170 m in the upper left corner and bottom right corner.
The map is for a battle or perhaps later a scenario where Ukrainian troops attempt to occupy the west Sloviank access. They should tap Bylvasivka neighborhoods and Krasnoarmiis'ke.
Thanks

http://i.imgur.com/Nij9YhO.jpg

shahadi May 3rd, 2014 10:43 AM

Re: As would design this map?
 
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Originally Posted by Roman (Post 824630)
I want to design a map that appears in the picture. Is access to Sloviank west.
Any suggestions where to start?

You might want to try the downloadable file with instrucions, as a place to get started.

If you like we could collaborate on this project. What are the coordinates from Google Earth? Maybe there are others who would like to give it a try as well.

Abraham

Roman May 4th, 2014 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by shahadi (Post 824679)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roman (Post 824630)
I want to design a map that appears in the picture. Is access to Sloviank west.
Any suggestions where to start?

You might want to try the downloadable file with instrucions, as a place to get started.

If you like we could collaborate on this project. What are the coordinates from Google Earth? Maybe there are others who would like to give it a try as well.

Abraham

Thanks friend. I have tried this method only once. I'll try again. But I need a file (hgt) with the exact map, and I do not know how to locate the file.
The coordinates are:
48 ° 50'11 .20 "N, 37 ° 29'0 .67" E
I upload a file from google earth I hope it can serve.
I'm not very good at making scenarios so if anyone wants to take the project, will be welcome, I can learn.

Regards

Roman May 4th, 2014 02:24 PM

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Since I learned to find the hgt files. They are on this page.

http://dds.cr.usgs.gov/srtm/version2_1/SRTM3/

With only Microdem terrain heights is configured. The rest should be done by hand? roads, towns, forests, etc?

Upload a picture of a map made to "hand". No Microdem.

Roman May 4th, 2014 02:29 PM

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I showed them to map lacks many details, as you have seen.
With Microdem, heights alone.

Roman May 5th, 2014 11:30 AM

Re: As would design this map?
 
As it is becoming?
Suggestions?

Roman May 5th, 2014 11:32 AM

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As it is becoming?
Suggestions?

shahadi May 5th, 2014 07:07 PM

Re: As would design this map?
 
It is looking good Roman. Question: how did you estimate land elevation, height of hills, and surrounding terrain?

Thanks for the correct address for the SRTMS files, http://dds.cr.usgs.gov/srtm/version2_1/SRTM3/.

Roman May 5th, 2014 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by shahadi (Post 824699)
It is looking good Roman. Question: how did you estimate land elevation, height of hills, and surrounding terrain?

Thanks for the correct address for the SRTMS files, http://dds.cr.usgs.gov/srtm/version2_1/SRTM3/.

The heights I took from google maps. Obviously I made a approximate calculation.
In Google maps height above sea level is taken. To make the map in SP took the lowest level as zero and "eyeball" do heights.
I do not rule out using microdem. Surely I must learn to use it better

Roman May 9th, 2014 09:41 PM

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Prototype scenario:
A mechanized task force wants to enter Sloviank the west.
Two companies of militia with anti tank and anti air weapons must stop its passage.
questions:
That forces both sides to suggest?
As you see the map?
I accept suggestions


I upload map and scenario

Roman May 14th, 2014 11:27 PM

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Scenario corrected.
Oche Thank you for making me see that the paved roads had high density. That happened because I built buildings on the routes.
I made a change to the troops as well.

shahadi May 15th, 2014 01:55 PM

Re: As would design this map?
 
Roman,

I have the Ukrainians using a force as follows:

Ground element
1. Wheeled Mechanized Inf Company +
2. SP Mortars
3. SP AA
4. Tank Pl
5. Recce Pl

Air element
1. Atk Helo section
2. Atk Helo formation x4 with commandos on board


Need to specify mission in terms of Victory Objectives, such as:
1. Secure government building(s)
2. Secure roadway
3. Clear AO of militia

Mission objectives will help drive the force needed and the OPFOR as well.

IMHO

Abraham

Roman May 15th, 2014 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by shahadi (Post 824758)
Roman,

I have thought the Ukrainians would use a force as follows:

Land component
1. Mechanized Inf Company

Hi Shahadi. Thanks for answer.
One company?
Maybe if Ukraine is to the human side.
I thought that the separatists are to play a human.
You think?
The best side for human is attacking or defending?
In the scenario I want to make the difference in number of troops for the Ukrainians. For that i think than human should play separatist side. Is more difficult :o

shahadi May 15th, 2014 02:17 PM

Re: As would design this map?
 
I don't know Roman, that is your call which side is human player. I was thinking the attacking force as the human side.

As I understand what you want, the difference in troops Ukraine, then the attacking force needs a larger force to prevail against a defender, and that force in my mind should be played by the human. However, a compelling game could be made with the human as the militia. It is your call buddy.

Roman May 15th, 2014 02:31 PM

Re: As would design this map?
 
I had not seen the entire above message.

Ukrainians objectives of the mission are:
1) Ensure access from the west Sloviank.
2) Clean the area of separatist forces.
Bylvasivka is a neighborhood or town that is west of Sloviank. Take Bylvasivka involves having a bridgehead to enter Sloviank, so it should be cleared of enemy forces.

The aim of separatists:
1) Avoid infiltration and settlement of Ukrainian forces in Bylvasivka.

Roman May 16th, 2014 04:45 PM

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New changes

shahadi May 16th, 2014 07:53 PM

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Roman,

I'll check out your latest version.

Oh and am really sorry (hehehe) about your boy Marcos Maidana loosing to Floyd Mayweather.

Abraham

shahadi May 16th, 2014 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Roman (Post 824773)
New changes

I loaded the files up, however they failed to load.

Roman May 17th, 2014 08:54 PM

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I've noticed two drawbacks. The surname and forenames green side, are Latino. Guns are the western side.
To fix this I bought Ukrainian and Russian troops. Now I have ak74 and Ukrainian names.
I made a new deployment.

Roman May 19th, 2014 12:33 AM

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New changes.
Ukrainian helicopters into action now.
I added description of the scenario

Patric September 5th, 2014 06:44 PM

Re: As would design this map?
 
Gracias Roman.
I´ll give it a try.

Saludos

Patricio


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